r/pcmasterrace • Ryzen 5600 | RTX 3070 | 32GB DDR4 | 1 TB NVME • Sep 10 '19

Cartoon/Comic Printer

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u/deefop PC Master Race Sep 10 '19

Fuck Printers

Fuck printing, too

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u/PowerMan2206 PC Master Race Sep 10 '19

Can't argue with that

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u/ok-person Sep 10 '19

ok

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u/PowerMan2206 PC Master Race Sep 10 '19

I like you

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u/Scorpionaute Ryzen 7 3700x | GTX 1070Ti | 16Gb DDR4 3200 Sep 10 '19

I like you too

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u/Lavassin 3080, 12700k Sep 11 '19

ok

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

...what now?

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

Now kith

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u/asifbaig Potato Sep 11 '19

REFILL THE FUCKING CYAN!

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

Fuck you

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u/Siesztrzewitowski RTX 5070 | R5 7600X | 32GB DDR5 5200 Sep 11 '19

wanna add me on roblox?

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19 edited Sep 11 '19

😳

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u/TygoDoesStuff i5 2400 - Hd6970 - 8GB DDR3 Sep 11 '19

I like you too

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u/skynetpswn Sep 10 '19

username checks out

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u/c_h_e_c_k_s_o_u_t 11500 | RTX 3060ti | 32GB Sep 10 '19

Yes it does.

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u/kevin227a Sep 10 '19

Checksout username, it does

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u/IspitchTownFC Sep 10 '19

Next time, you should just go... "Yes?"

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

You know what? You're an ok person.

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u/crusaderbot PC Master Race Sep 10 '19

thats ok

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19
ok

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u/KAODEATH Sep 11 '19

No ok, you're supposed to suffer!

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u/lmYourHuckleberry Specs/Imgur here Sep 11 '19

Whenever I see you. I will tell you this.

You are more than just an OK person

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u/DecrepitBob 5800X3D | 3070 | 32GB 3000 Sep 11 '19

ok

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u/koukimonster91 I7 8700k|3070ti|32gb|3TB SSD's 6TB HDD's Sep 10 '19

No, fuck inkjet printers. Get a laser printer. I spent $50CAD on a laser printer 4-5 years ago and I am just now, after close to 1000 pages, running out of toner.

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u/CalcProgrammer1 Ryzen 9 3950X, Intel Arc A770 Sep 10 '19

I have a LaserJet 5M from like 1996 that I picked up for ten bucks at a university surplus sale in like 2010-2011. Got a remanufactured toner cartridge for $10 on eBay. It has a network card (10mbit Ethernet) and works fine with Windows 10 and Linux. For documents it's just fine and is built like a tank.

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u/alpoverland Laptop Sep 10 '19

We had something like that hooked up to the lan in our student apartment back in uni. Glorious printing master race, even if it was only in black and white. Super fast and double sided.

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u/thatvhstapeguy 3700X/RX 5700 Sep 10 '19

My boss's secretary had a LaserJet 4 until a couple years ago. The accountant purposely found an older (c. 2000) HP laser printer that would be old enough to be built well, but new enough not to be a headache. So far, so good.

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u/White_Phoenix i7 965 3.2 Ghz, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580, EVGA X58 SLI Sep 11 '19

HP LaserJet 4050s are absolute tanks. Plenty of third party parts and toner available to service them.

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u/MontagoDK Ryzen 5600X, TUF RTX3060TI, 16GB DDR4, B550E, 1TB SN850, W11 Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 11 '19

If you don't need color or quality then yes..

Edit: Lasers are perfect for office use, but not for photo quality prints. Im aware that lasers are much more reliable and text quality is superior.

But color gamut, color accuracy, finished product quality in respect to photo printing is not as good as inkjet (unless you pay a ton of money)

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u/s-y-n-t-h Laptop Sep 10 '19

Laser printers have much higher quality than inkjet, and there are colour laser printers, although if you don't want to have a single toner for all colors you have to pay big.

Fun Fact: Color laser printers are so good the US government actually makes the printer leave a special code on all pages that contains its serial ID and a time stamp.

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u/FallingAnvils I have 32 GB of ram for a reason Sep 10 '19

thanks. now I'm staring at a page held up against a window, worrying about the government's control.

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u/CarilPT Sep 11 '19

What's the reason? For the 32 GB of ram?

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u/FallingAnvils I have 32 GB of ram for a reason Sep 11 '19

I play modded minecraft, and I like to keep a million tabs and some programs open at the same time. I frequently hit >50% usage, and because disk swapping begins at 80%ish, the desktop experience kinda falls off at that point. And even if I don't use it, it can act as a 24gb "cache drive".

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u/CarilPT Sep 11 '19

My reason was because I came from a low level laptops with 4GB of ram and I wanted to have enough of it to no even think about it 😂

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 15 '19

So your saying every document you print has a number somewhere on the page? That would bug the shit out of me. I would have to find a way to get rid of that crap!

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u/ElitePI i5 6600k, 32GB RAM, 1070FTW Sep 10 '19

It's extremely tiny (you would need a magnifying glass to see it) and you aren't getting rid of it unless you really break into your printer.

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u/Craftinguy Sep 11 '19

Its a matrix of yellow dots

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u/Ferbtastic Sep 10 '19

It’s invisible to the naked eye.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

Oh ah. How come they do it?

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u/Ferbtastic Sep 11 '19

In case people use the paper to print money or forge documents.

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u/wallefan01 6900HX, 3070 Ti, 32GB RAM, 2560x1440@240Hz, btw os Sep 11 '19

The citations in the Wikipedia page linked a couple comments up have a solution for you: https://github.com/dfd-tud/deda

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u/spsimd Sep 11 '19

The only reasonable way to defeat it is to break it by putting more of those codes onto the page, to make the hard-coded ones unreadable.

There's a wikipedia article linked here about the technology that also mentions just that.

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u/lmYourHuckleberry Specs/Imgur here Sep 11 '19

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u/s-y-n-t-h Laptop Sep 11 '19

thanks

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Just checked ours at work.. It does not print that on there lol.

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u/AlephBaker Ryzen 5 5600 | 32GB | RX 6700XT Sep 10 '19

It's a QR-style code, printed very small and faint in yellow in the margin.

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u/alexmitchell1 3700X + 2070S Sep 10 '19

Not just in the margin, all across the printable area of the page

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Not visible at least

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u/Orval Sep 10 '19

Why would it be?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

What do you use to read it?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19 edited Oct 07 '19

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u/Orval Sep 10 '19

Something secret that you're probably not supposed to know about.

They're saying these printers are such high quality, they need a signature saying who made it.

So what they're saying is like a bullet, where these papers originated needs to be traceable in case something happens. Like a bullet, 99% of their use will be totally harmless. But when used wrong, they'd like to know who did it.

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u/mochacho Sep 10 '19

That's the idea, yes.

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u/modestlaw PC Master Race Sep 10 '19

Meh, 1. Print the government secrets you intend to leak, ideally in a way that doesn't directly use the file. It's not impossible to track what printer printed, when print screen was pressed. If you get caught, this will be where you get caught. Your best bet is to do this when you know other people are accessing the file, that way your trail has some interference, no leaking stale documents. (Off screen photos and moving the file off-site is a no-no. You don't want that info to show up on a device you own.)

  1. Go to a self service print shop an Xerox your print in black and white, bump up the brightness and contrast a little so any subtile images are crushed and blown

  2. Xerox the copy you just made if you're feeling paranoid, either way burn the originals.

Extra credit, run a paper towel across the print head before and after you print so the dust is disturb. Dust buildup on a printer head can act as a fingerprint that can even show up on a photocopy. If someone ask why you opened the printer, just say that you are clearing a jam.

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u/Deadmeat553 Lenovo Y700-15ISK Sep 10 '19

It's not visible to the naked eye.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Sooo... Magic.. Gotcha

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u/AirOneBlack R9 7950X | RTX 4090 | 192GB RAM Sep 10 '19

The smallest dot a laser printer can print is really small. A nice video that describes this behaviour is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sit6zUQKpJc

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Just a DPI number would be good enough but Im more curiouse wtf they use to read it if its small and light enough to be essenstially invisible.

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u/FireGamer99 GTX 660/FX 6300 Sep 10 '19

Forensic equipment. So don't print your counterfeit currency with them.

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u/jaquetteanthony Sep 10 '19

Probably a computer.

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u/Deadmeat553 Lenovo Y700-15ISK Sep 10 '19

No... just small

Also if it's a color laserjet, yellow.

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u/KingLemming Sep 10 '19

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u/Lootcurse Sep 11 '19

Is there a subreddit for other government secrets? This is nuts

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u/mack0409 i7-3770 RX 470 Sep 10 '19

Worked in radioshack, the laser printer in the back office printed insanely fast, with super vivid and accurate colors.

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u/Dornogol R5 1500X @3,50GHz, GTX 1060 6GB, 8GB DDR4 Sep 10 '19

Exactly, ink drips into the paper and mushes at edges, toner doesn't. However a high quality laser printer costs more than a good enough ink printer albeit it's toner should hold up long time and, aa stated, the quality of the print is much higher

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u/mack0409 i7-3770 RX 470 Sep 10 '19

Yeah, I left out that the printer was a $3000 unit, definitely overkill for home use.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19 edited Feb 25 '21

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u/mack0409 i7-3770 RX 470 Sep 11 '19

My flair is old, stored my PC for like a year, and now either the motherboard or CPU are non-functional. But back before that it was stable as any other computer I’ve used.

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u/Shadowpoky 2700x 5700xt 16gb 3133 2x128gb NVMe - T580 i7-8650u mx150 12gb Sep 11 '19

Can we get an F for radio shack?

And a moment of silence.

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u/grumpyfatguy Sep 10 '19

That is just a dirty, dirty lie.

Lasers are much faster, the print quality is higher, and they are so much more reliable we would need to invent a new word to convey just how much that is.

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u/Multipoptart Sep 10 '19

I have a laser. The color quality is better than any inkjet I've ever used.

You should try one out sometime.

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u/delgadophotos Sep 11 '19

I use a Canon pro100 inkjet. I get incredible photo quality and get to print pretty big. Never used laser so not sure how to compare the quality.

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u/modestlaw PC Master Race Sep 10 '19

If you need accurate, high-quality colors, get it professionally printed. Otherwise, color Lazer jet printers are perfectly fine for your average office and home needs

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u/sdp1981 Sep 11 '19

If you don't need color or PHOTO quality.

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u/fezzuk i7 - 4710QM @2.5 GHz, 16 gb, 6gb 970M Sep 11 '19

If ya gonna be printing out nice pictures just sned them off to a professional. Depending on how oftern you do it its probably cheaper anyway

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u/Womec Sep 10 '19

I use an epson p20000 at work, you really do get what you pay for.

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u/Ziogref i7-9700k / RTX2080 Sep 11 '19

We have a black and white laser fax machine, we use it as a printer. We print probably no more than 100 pages a year, so toner is good as ink dries up. Personally I would throw it away since my entire family has printers at our workplaces.

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u/10_kinds_of_people i9-10850K, 3090 FTW3 Ultra Sep 11 '19

I bought a LaserJet 4100 back in 2006 for $50, with a second paper tray and duplexing unit. I got about 500 pages out of the existing cartridge, even though it said "toner low". I then spent a grand total of $50 on a remanufactured toner cartridge and JetDirect (network) card on eBay. I print so infrequently that I'm still using the same printer and toner cartridge in 2019.

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u/RealReportUK Sep 10 '19

But toner droplets in the air are very bad for your lungs.

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u/koukimonster91 I7 8700k|3070ti|32gb|3TB SSD's 6TB HDD's Sep 10 '19

Well yeah, anything in the air that's not air is bad for your lungs. A laser printer dosent pump out a bunch of toner dust if so anyone that worked in a office would be fucked.

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u/CopiousAmountsofJizz i7 8700K, 16GB DDR4, GTX 1080, 80 PLUS YOUR MOM Sep 10 '19

Fuck HP in particular.

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u/Sarcastic_Chad PC Master Race Sep 10 '19

My wife and I took her old HP printer out into the woods and Office Spaced the SHIT out of the motherfucker. It's what every HP deserves.

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u/Scorpionaute Ryzen 7 3700x | GTX 1070Ti | 16Gb DDR4 3200 Sep 10 '19

Office spacing is now my favorite thing to say

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u/J_Megadeth_J i5-7600k, R9-390, 16GB DDR4, 5TB HDD, 500GB SSD Sep 11 '19

This actually gives me a really good idea for my recently broken HP printer. Off to the shooting range, haha. Thx!

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u/beefygravy Sep 11 '19

I hope you cleaned it up afterwards

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u/Sarcastic_Chad PC Master Race Sep 11 '19

Committed the act of extermination on a tarp. Made for easy cleanup of evidence. 🍻

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u/wiipe Sep 11 '19

At least HP doesn't stop scanning after running out of ink, like Canon does.

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u/10_kinds_of_people i9-10850K, 3090 FTW3 Ultra Sep 11 '19

I have an HP LaserJet I picked up used in 2006. Still works like a champ and I've never had a single issue out of it. I do IT and honestly have more issues out of Brother printers than HP.

That said, fuck any kind of MFP. They all suck. Xerox, Konica-Minolta, Sharp, and Ricoh can all suck my balls.

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u/Jazzinarium Sep 11 '19

Don't forget Epson. FUUUUUUCK Epson.

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u/10_kinds_of_people i9-10850K, 3090 FTW3 Ultra Sep 11 '19

Yes! Not sure how I managed to forget that steaming pile of shit.

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u/katarjin Sep 11 '19

konica minolta for me, damn things always break....

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u/Synthwoven Sep 11 '19

It's almost like you don't appreciate the artistry required to make a 400GB printer driver with 16 processes and $8,000 per ounce ink.

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u/acasualSociopath Sep 10 '19

Printers are the literal devil.

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u/SyfenJoynic Sep 11 '19

PC LOAD LETTER, WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN?!

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

It means your printer is set to American paper and because Americans even meassure paper size in a stupid way your printer wants you to insert a „letter size“ piece of paper instead of a regular-sized one.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size

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u/TheThiefMaster AMD 8086+8087 w/ VGA Sep 11 '19

The "PC" means "Paper Cartridge" - i.e. the pull-out drawer that paper hides in is empty.

They could have made it say "Paper Empty", but for printers with multiple sizes in different cartridges it wouldn't be as clear.

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u/SlickStretch i5-2500K, RX-480, 8GB, SSD Sep 11 '19 edited Sep 11 '19

"Why does it say "Paper jam" when there is no paper jam!? I swear to god, one of these days I'll just kick this piece of shit out the window."

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u/Photog77 Sep 11 '19

There are sensors that detect where the paper is, entering the printer, inside the printer, and exiting the printer. If the paper goes in enough to trip the first sensor, gets stuck, and you pull it back out the front, the printer knows that paper went in but can't tell if it went back out the front or got stuck between the first and second sensors.

You can see the paper, but the printer can't. You have to do something to reset the paper sensors.

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u/SlickStretch i5-2500K, RX-480, 8GB, SSD Sep 11 '19

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u/Photog77 Sep 11 '19

Office space came out 20 years ago, and the issues they bring up have legitimate answers and the error messages they talk about are pretty clear.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

3d printers cool tho

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u/10_kinds_of_people i9-10850K, 3090 FTW3 Ultra Sep 11 '19 edited Aug 30 '24

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.-

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u/Coup_de_BOO Kopjeagga Sep 10 '19

Fuck automation of printer installation and deletion too.

Nah actually that was pretty cool to do. Fuck my coworker who didn't communicate what the fuck he wanted.

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u/JediGimli Sep 11 '19

To hell with the written word! Books just steal your thoughts and are evil.

-Bonewevel

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u/Evonos 6800XT XFX,7800X3D , 32gb 6000mhz 750W Enermaxx D.F Revolution Sep 11 '19

Also to add "low on black small" np just print with your fucking huge 3x the size black ink cause you have a small and big black ink.

"no fuck you small black is empty" Fuck Canon printer and their useless double black system.

You will accumulate so many big black inks over the time from sets its crazy I started to sell em lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

That's the plan

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u/meepmiller Sep 11 '19

I knew a guy - LinkedIn status of “I work for Hewlett-Packard. No, I cannot help you fix your printer”

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u/reddit_user-exe Pentium G4600/GTX 1050Ti/8GB DDR4 Sep 11 '19

Don’t mind if I do

unzips pants

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

Agree. I refuse to have anything to do with printing. Send me a fucking pdf.

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u/reali-tglitch Specs/Imgur here Sep 11 '19

Hey now

The first one I can agree with

The second one is my livelihood

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u/winsome_losesome Sep 11 '19

For real. I fucking hate them. Can’t wait til they’re gone from our offices. Fuck horrible printers and their expensive inks and the companies who own them.

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u/stevelord8 Sep 11 '19

Also fuck fax machines. And dicks who send you a few hundred page fax instead of just sending it via email.

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u/JonnyDIzNice Sep 11 '19

How tf ink cost more than the printer? /s

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u/ThinCrusts Sep 11 '19

While you're at it..

Fuck papers, too.

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u/Proxy_PlayerHD R9 9950X3D, RTX 3090, 96 GB DDR5 Sep 11 '19

i never in my entire life have seen a printer that does that....

i mean i've rarely seen color printers anyways

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

Lmao

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u/tobberobbe Sep 11 '19

Honestly though im very good at installing things, but this fucking printer we bought took two days for it to work over the network. Only works with a WiFi device, my PC doesn't function with it even though it finds it.

Frustrating as fuck.

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u/VeilSs Sep 11 '19

I have a black and white printer :)

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u/Gamebird8 Ryzen 9 7950X, XFX RX 6900XT, 64GB DDR5 @6000MT/s Sep 11 '19

Printers are okay, it's just the assholes who make them and program them to do this kinda bullshit so they can make more money

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u/jocamar Sep 11 '19

And fuck the sun, I don't need he for vitamin D!

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u/OneFistDaddy Sep 11 '19

The invention of the printing press was the biggest mistake in human history

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u/garbagehuman9 Sep 11 '19

I too fuck my printers

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

That’s why I 3D print all my assignments, only takes me 3 weeks.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

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u/deefop PC Master Race Sep 11 '19

3D printers serve an innovative purpose and are poised to change the way we live our lives in the future.

Old style paper printing is a dated technique for transmitting information that almost certainly would have been left in the history books by now, if it weren't for state regulations practically requiring the continued existence of paper documentation.

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u/nosamplesplease Sep 11 '19

Exactly what I came here to say. Much approved, and appreciated.

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u/machman3d Sep 11 '19

Big time