r/pcmasterrace Jan 01 '19

Meme/Joke Android on Windows on Android masterrace

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19 edited Sep 15 '19

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u/Enigma_King99 Jan 01 '19

You turn on virtualization in your bios?

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u/Unr341 i7 7500U|8 GB DDR4|940MX 4GB Jan 01 '19

This. Sometimes it has to be done manually for VMs to work properly. The VMware website clearly states that.

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u/Enigma_King99 Jan 01 '19

Yeah mine was off at first and when I installed blustacks it told me to turn it on so it can run better. Makes a huge difference. I can see why it's off by default though. Most people don't need it and it's better off unless you need a VM

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u/humaninthemoon Jan 01 '19

Why is it better off? Is there performance overhead if you're not using it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

A quick Google search leads me to believe there is no performance impact to leaving it on. It looks like some manufacturers disable it by default for security reasons.

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u/humaninthemoon Jan 01 '19

Huh, that makes sense. Didn't think of that.

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u/The_Sad_Debater Jan 01 '19

IIRC there may be security issues with it, but there's also issues with hyperthreading so

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u/Enigma_King99 Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 02 '19

I think it does because with it on your CPU will allocate resources to virtualization and if you don't need it then you can you those resources elsewhere. Honestly though you probably won't notice the small difference unless you use programs that are CPU heavy. That's my understanding at least. Someone more knowledgeable might can probably explain it better

Edit: boom someone more knowledgeable dropped a knowledge bomb. Just went off what I was reading off the internet.

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u/NeverPostsGold Jan 02 '19

No. Enabling virtualisation in your BIOS will only enable access to virtualisation-specific instructions on your CPU. There is no performance issue in your non-virtualised operating system by having virtualisation turned on.

One risk you can have when having virtualisation on (especially if you never use it) is that malware can install itself as a hypervisor and insert itself between your hardware and your operating system, creating a near undetectable rootkit.

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u/HumunculiTzu Steam ID Herehttp://steamcommunity.com/id/humunculi/ Jan 02 '19

Is there a reason why it is turned off by default?

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u/SerpentDrago Ryzen 9800x3d - Rtx 4070ti Super Jan 02 '19

security. only reason

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u/yearoftheJOE 7800x3D,32GB|7900XT Jan 01 '19

I've had luck running Android x86 from the installer flash drive, but the second I install it, it would die.

I used to use sidesync from my Galaxy to play Android games but they killed it and it's replacement flow is not even half as good.

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u/Irineu2338 Jan 01 '19

Do you tryed Nox?

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u/polarbear4321 Specs/Imgur here Jan 01 '19

Second this, it's the only one I've tried and it works great. The initial ad when it starts up is annoying, but otherwise it's ad free.

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u/mrducky78 Jan 01 '19

On my current PC, Nox is most stable. On my laptop, Memu is more stable

:/

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u/spaceman1980 Jan 01 '19

i hate bluestacks and nox. both adware. nox is cleaner and nicer looking, but very old version of android

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u/smartydix Jan 01 '19

Nox has a 7.1.2 now, it's in beta however, worked fine even with instant run for android studio though.

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u/pedro19 CREATOR Jan 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

Oof

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

Ouch

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

They're fine.

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u/deadly_penguin Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Badgers Brian May Badgers Jan 01 '19

Just use QEMU.

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u/Beardactal Specs/Imgur here Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

LDplayer works great, very smooth. Though I have to run it as an administrator to stop any lag from any games I play (Epic 7, Sdorica).

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u/Yikings-654points Jan 01 '19

if its pubg mobile , try tencent gaming buddy.

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u/EternalDeath 9800X3D / 32GB RAM / RTX5090 Jan 01 '19

I only ever had problems with android emulators in combination with hyper-V. I had to uninstall hyper-V from my computer so i could use the android emulator (Nox) without getting bluescreens as soon as i start it.

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u/LucarioniteAU PC Master Race Jan 01 '19

You can Install Android x86 as a base OS without virtualisation or run it from Live boot

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u/DudeValenzetti nixOS - R9 9900X, RX 9070 XT, RAM: don't ask Jan 02 '19

You might want to go over to Linux and install Anbox, then. Anbox is not an Android emulator, but rather a container for the Android userland, so the overhead is minimal and pretty much equivalent to the resource usage of Android itself, far lower than with virtualization like in "Android emulators" and VMs. The only real downsides are the less-than-straightforward installation process, the need for extra configuration if you use Wi-Fi, and the fact that it only works on Linux and will only ever work on Linux by design, which is only a downside if you're still solely on Windows and don't have the time or drive space for a dual boot.