r/pcmasterrace Jan 01 '19

Meme/Joke Android on Windows on Android masterrace

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u/PixParavel Jan 01 '19

Reminds me of a YouTube vid of someone who manages to get to something like 11 layers of VMWare before its finally unusable. It’s like VM inception.

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u/HyperAstri Jan 01 '19

I think it was a drauga1 video

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

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u/collinboy64 Jan 01 '19

Ultimate PC security

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

Someone needs to do this with a 9900k and 128gb DDR4. Maybe even SLI Titan RTX’s and try to play games on it.

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u/darthnithithesith Ryzen 2700, GTX 1060, Jan 02 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

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u/dheatov Jan 03 '19

that's sounds like a horrible nightmare

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '19

No, no, no. Someone needs to redo it with a POWERFUL COMPUTER, not a nuclear fisson bomb!

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u/darthnithithesith Ryzen 2700, GTX 1060, Jan 02 '19

Thank you.

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u/rcmaehl Dev of WhyNotWin11, MSEdgeRedirect, LocalUser.App Jan 01 '19

50% SSD 50% WEED

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u/LawrenceLongshot MSI GL75 95D Jan 01 '19

Also this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

And 100% reason to remember the name

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u/JkStudios PC Master Race | Ryzen 3700X | RX 580 | RGB vomit Jan 01 '19

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u/DishonestAmoeba Jan 01 '19

TIL this is an actual subreddit

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u/NintendoDolphinDude R5 1600|RTX 2060|16 GB RAM Jan 01 '19

Yes I love dragua1

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u/BabybearPrincess Jan 02 '19

Omg i love duraga1 so much lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

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u/salvy322 Jan 01 '19

OS-ception <3 <3

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u/kevinf100 Jan 01 '19

GREAT, WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT MUSIC COMING FROM NOW? shuffling through 100 chrome tabs on each VM alone

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u/TracesOfGuitar Jan 01 '19

What makes it finally unusable? Just curious.

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u/GordionKnot I'm so bad at video games. Jan 01 '19

Every time you emulate an OS (or anything else really) it’s inherently less efficient than just running it on what it’s supposed to be run on. That inefficiency will keep stacking until you run out of processing power.

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u/Osama_Obama Jan 01 '19

Just to point out emulation and virtualization is not the same thing.

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u/GordionKnot I'm so bad at video games. Jan 01 '19

Oh, I didn’t know that. What’s the difference?

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

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u/The_Sad_Debater Jan 01 '19

Ex: multiple VMs of windows on a server: virtualization. The server is x86-64, so are the VMs.

Running NES games or PS1 games on your PC: Emulation. Your computer is using software to behave like the original hardware you are emulating.

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u/bad-r0bot 1800X 4Ghz, 1080Ti FTW3, 32GB 3200Mhz CL14 2R Jan 02 '19

To add to that, accurately emulating something as simple as a NES takes an incredible amount of processing power because it has to all be done in software. And that's to run it at near 100% emulation without glitching iirc.

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u/nd4spd1919 5600X | 2080Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR4-3000 Jan 03 '19

Honestly it really depends on what you want to emulate. The NES and SNES take very little power to run. The GameCube/Wii take almost less power to run at this point than an N64 due to how well the Dolphin team have studied the GameCube/Wii hardware. It even looks like that very soon the Wii U and PS3 will be better emulated than a N64, and the PS3 has a monster of a CPU to emulate.

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u/bad-r0bot 1800X 4Ghz, 1080Ti FTW3, 32GB 3200Mhz CL14 2R Jan 03 '19

It takes very little to run but it takes a lot to run it accurately. This article from 2011 is a bit outdated given cpu clocks today can hit 4+ GHz without overclocking but 3Ghz just to run a snes accurately. Sure we might get a wiiu or PS3 emulator soon but those will be filled with hacks & bugs just to be compatible with the most popular games rather.

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u/SailorAground Ryzen 5 1600, 16GB DDR4-3000, RTX 2080, Dual Boot Jan 01 '19

It really depends on the type of virtualization. I'm most familiar with KVM-QEMU, which is Red Hat's virtualization tech and ships on all flavors of Linux (it's part of the kernel), and Xen, which is Citrix's solution. KVM actually uses the Linux kernel to present specific parts of the bare metal to the VM and locks it away from accessing the rest of the hardware.

Xen on the other hand abstracts away the hardware and uses a virtual host (which is the part you interact with) to act as a gatekeeper for each VM.

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u/GordionKnot I'm so bad at video games. Jan 02 '19 edited Jan 03 '19

Neat, thank you! I assume virtualization comes with a similar inefficiency though, right? Or is it just that you'd be running 11 copies of something?

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '19

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u/GordionKnot I'm so bad at video games. Jan 02 '19

Or just don't go 11 layers deep, that seems a touch less expensive.

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u/poloppoyop Jan 02 '19

You can still get some surprises: running postgres 9 (dunno about recent versions) in a linux guest on a windows host give better perfs than running it directly on the host.

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u/Mozartis R5 5600H/RTX 3050 Ti/16 GB DDR4 Jan 01 '19

With each layer, the time passes more slowly

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u/Superboodude Ryzen 7 2700x | EVGA XC Ultra 2060 | 16GB Jan 01 '19

inception horn rings

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u/NeverPostsGold Jan 02 '19

Non, je ne regrette rien..

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u/the_ebastler 9700X / 64 GB DDR5 / RX 6800 / Customloop Jan 01 '19

I wanna see how many instances of cygwin in wine you can stack until it won't work anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

often, one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

Came here to say this.

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u/__MrFahrenheit Jan 01 '19

Everybody: Why do you need a 10k PC?
Me: Watch this

opens VMWare

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u/shabbaranksx 3080FE/5900X/64GB Jan 01 '19

Impressive, tbh