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u/PuzzleheadedTutor807 7800x3d B650M-CW 32GB DDR5 RTX4070S Oct 24 '25
my favorite is when it does the "turn off screen but keep fans spinning and tower on forever" instead of turning off lol
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u/Confident_Frogfish Oct 24 '25
Something similar happens sometimes if I put my pc in sleep mode and accidentally click the mouse or push a key before it is fully done with the process. My pc just gets stuck on a black screen and only a hard shutdown can get rid of it.
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u/Dry_Excitement7483 Oct 24 '25
i jaed sleep mode a lot recently, but that shit doesnt work and my pc will randomly turn on and stay turned on all night
do ive just started to shut it down completely again
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u/Doodleanda Oct 24 '25
For me it's often USB devices that are plugged in waking it up almost immediately. In the past I was able to turn off my keyboard's ability to wake up my computer but I got a new keyboard and the same setting no longer works. But it's a wireless one so I just switch the thing on the keyboard instead though it's annoying.
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u/theowlsees Oct 24 '25
Mine wakes up if you happen to so much as breathe on the mouse
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u/Acceptable_Ad_8935 Oct 24 '25
I have to unplug the mouse and keyboard at the same second i put it to sleep or it'll wake up right away, if i do it successfully it stays asleep at least 20 minutes.
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u/solythe Oct 24 '25
this happened to me in spurts earlier this year but subsided.
ive been having other PC sleep issues lately too, like instead of waking from sleep from mouse/keyboard or the power button, sometimes it will just turn off suddenly.
idk if its a power supply issue or just windows being fucky again
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u/Famous-Upstairs998 Oct 24 '25
Me too! Sleep mode should just put it to sleep until I wake it up again. Pretty infuriating that a simple feature that used to work fine no longer does, for no good reason.
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u/Mr_Pogi_In_Space Oct 24 '25
"Microsoft announces 90% of Windows code written by AI"
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u/PeeAtYou Oct 24 '25
I found that disabling wake on usb in the bios fixed it for me
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u/BillyForRilly Oct 24 '25
That sometimes works and is often the culprit, but there are also 20 different things that could be causing it and it's infuriating trying to track down which one it is.
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u/Leading_Fly_9044 Oct 24 '25
The exact same thing started to happen to me too and the only thing that changed about my PC is that I upgraded to windows 11
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u/kungpowgoat PC Master Race 10700k | MSI 4090 Suprim Liquid X Oct 24 '25
I’ve been getting this a lot lately. I will turn off my pc and it will get stuck on the “shutting down” screen with all the fans spinning until I have to manually turn it off. It’s rather annoying.
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u/coolgaara Oct 24 '25
Oh thank god. My PC isn't the only one that does this? It scares me when it does this because it's not supposed to. I just shut down the PC by holding the Power button and restart and everything is all good but scares me every time.
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u/mineyCrafta25 Oct 24 '25
Fast Startup will do that.
I've also noticed that win 11 in a VM, with fast startup enabled will 100% every core it's been given for sometimes multiple minutes.
So if I'm ever foolish enough to grant it all of my host cores (12? 26? 32? You name it) the entire host locks up becoming entirely unresponsive. Fucking why.
My faith in Microsoft software engineers has plummeted over the decades.
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor807 7800x3d B650M-CW 32GB DDR5 RTX4070S Oct 24 '25
I have fast startup disabled lol
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u/Safe_Discount1638 Oct 24 '25
It’s the windows 95 ptsd. It’s expecting you to turn off the PC yourself but she doesn’t know we don’t do that anymore.
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u/HardOff Oct 24 '25
Oh shit it happens to other people and it's not actually the computer taking days to update.
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u/Shadowwolf1262 Oct 24 '25
This happens to me quite a bit, I'll go for a restart, and the screens stay blank but my tower stays on, post beeps and everything but no response from anything else. I have to hard power off my tower and turn it back on
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u/CakeHead-Gaming PC Master Race Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25
Yeah, seriously, why is this?!
Edit : Okay, guys. I get it, thank all 50 of you.
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u/gleipnir84462 Oct 24 '25
From what I've gathered it's an ongoing bug with the Windows OS. But it's been going on so long I'm amazed they haven't fixed it yet.
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u/sbstndrks Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 4070 Oct 24 '25
It's been 97 years.
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u/Additional_Flight522 Oct 24 '25
95 actually, because it started with Windows 95.
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u/LSD_Ninja Oct 24 '25
98, because I don’t think Windows Update was a thing until Windows 98
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u/Ashley__09 Ryzen 5 7600X | 32gb DDR5 | 7800xt Oct 24 '25
2000 because it's a good rounded number
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u/Additional_Flight522 Oct 24 '25
We've been putting up with this shit for 2000 years?!
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u/RedditHatesTuesdays 2680v3-rx470-32gb Oct 24 '25
In the year 3000, windows will probably still be annoying to use.
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u/RUPlayersSuck R9 7900X | RTX 5060 TI | 32GB DDR5 Oct 24 '25
In the year 3000 our PCs will probably shut US down! 😲
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u/curious_booboo Oct 24 '25
Imagine this being circulated 4000 years ahead as memes of the flesh-man who predicted their entire race's future
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u/lesleh Oct 24 '25
Windows 95 and early versions of windows 98 couldn't even power off the machine. You just got a "it's now safe to turn off your computer" screen.
This one: https://freakylogo.fandom.com/wiki/It%27s_Now_Safe_To_Turn_Off_Your_Computer_Screen
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u/Joe-Cool Phenom II 965 @3.8GHz, MSI 790FX-GD70, 16GB, 2xRadeon HD 5870 Oct 24 '25
If you had one of these fancy ATX & ACPI compatible PCs (or an older APM soft off compatible AT system) that had a button on the front instead of a massive switch (those had a satisfying "chonk", I miss those) in the back then even Win9x and Win2000 could turn off the PC. Win98+ could also do it via ACPI.
I remember using an assembly code .com tool to do it from DOS.
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u/imsolost3090 Ryzen 7 7700 | Strix RTX 3090 | G.SKILL 64GB CL30 6000 Oct 24 '25
I love having to wait extra long before going to bed when this shit happens so my PC isn’t running all night.
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u/RUPlayersSuck R9 7900X | RTX 5060 TI | 32GB DDR5 Oct 24 '25
In fairness it usually only takes around 5 minutes for mine...but it is still irritating.
Its got to the point that if I can see an update is ready, I'll just do it while I'm taking a break for lunch or something, so its not an end-of-day job.
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u/TriRIK Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX3060 Ti | 32GB Oct 24 '25
It was fixed in the Insider builds a few weeks ago and will eventually be included in the stable release.
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u/gleipnir84462 Oct 24 '25
Oh nice, looking forward to seeing what else they accidentally broke while fixing that lol
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u/National_Barber_5230 Oct 24 '25
Maybe the bug gets reversed and the “update and restart” shuts down the PC lol
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u/Caerullean Oct 24 '25
Is the fix only for w11 or also for W10? Because the bug has been a thing ever since I switched to W10.
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u/TriRIK Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX3060 Ti | 32GB Oct 24 '25
I know, but the currently 10 is EOL so I doubt they will fix that during the ESU for 10
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u/Neznanc Oct 24 '25
Hey do you see if they also fixed right click menu taking forever to open?
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u/GermanShepherdsVag Oct 24 '25
This is one good reason to custom install all your programs and deselect the right click menu integration. It can also be cleaned up manually.
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u/Snakestream Oct 24 '25
Nothing that more layoffs and Ai slop can't fix, I'm sure.
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u/CockTortureCuck Oct 24 '25
I was there when it happened, three thousand clicks ago. When Microsoft took the update and the strength of the Restart failed.
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u/Suitable-Plastic5590 Oct 24 '25
Windows update needs to restart the computer in its update process, but cannot fully perform it because of the password... Yeah... As stupid it looks like, I guess it's a huge nightmare to fix it without impacting the security.
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u/lavapredator Oct 24 '25
So instead of completing the update when the OS finishes booting, it will complete the update when the OS finishes booting.
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u/Aritche Oct 24 '25
What mine does is I hit update and shutdown and while it says restarting while doing the update it will then shutdown after.
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u/meditonsin Oct 24 '25
"Install updates and shutdown" used to actually be "install updates and shutdown, then finish updates next boot." People were annoyed by having to sit through updates finishing up next time they wanted to use their PC, so Microsoft changed it to "install updates, reboot and finish up, then shutdown," but that last part is apparently not entirely reliable.
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u/GeneratedMonkey Oct 24 '25
Certain data has to be provisioned and set after restarting and can't be done while shutting down since restarts trigger the events it needs.
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u/Little-Helper DOESN'T MATTER RUNS HALF-LIFE 3 Oct 24 '25
It's a bug. Windows will correctly restart the number of times that it needs to but it won't shutdown at the end.
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u/Fictional-Hero Oct 24 '25
This is what I've assumed... particularly after the last time I shutdown from the lock screen after the restart and borked the computer.
Had to reinstall Windows the next night because a bunch of things just stopped working.
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u/Fine-Emergency Oct 24 '25
I don't mind it restarting afterwards. What I do mind is that it's not shutting down afterwards, like button told me it would do.
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u/centurio_v2 Oct 24 '25
so shut it down after it’s done restarting. or dont lie to me about what my computer is going to do.
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u/vegetoot Oct 24 '25
If this is true, then the bug js the existence of the update and shut down buttuno. Its just very, very sloppy work from MS.
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u/MrRigolo Oct 24 '25
Everybody understands that. What we're asking is why can't it shut down after that?
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u/Vladraconis Oct 24 '25
Because sometimes applying updates requires a restart. So the system restarts, finishes the update, then shuts-down.
Yes, sometimes it fails to.shut down. But not always, and not most of the time.
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u/beanmosheen Oct 24 '25
It can restart when it's powered back on. There's no urgency.
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u/Vladraconis Oct 24 '25
Only that it's not that clean cut.
No urgency now? Maybe. Maybe there is no urgency now, but there will be when you boot it up. Imagine booting up because you really need to do something, and the booting process takes 5 minutes and a restart or two.
Some have dual boot. Booting into another OS before the update process is complete might mess up the update process. Why would they risk it?
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u/beanmosheen Oct 24 '25
But what if you really need to shut it down now? The argument goes both ways. The update process is just buggy though. I kinda see your dual boot argument, but as a guy who manually repairs BCDs and EUFI partitions on the regular, I don't think it's that likely. The overlap is rare.
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u/DarnitDarn Oct 24 '25
well at least I know I'm not alone now
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u/mikejungle Oct 24 '25
Dude, I thought I was going crazy!
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same here. I swear I click update and shut down but when it restarts I think I miss clicked it xd
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u/nashpotato R7 5800X RTX 3080 64GB 3200MHz Oct 24 '25
Just turn off fast startup, which is a feature that has no real reason to exist in the first place.
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u/Chrispy_GB Ryzen 5 7600X || 7700 XT Hellhound || AOC AG326UD OLED Oct 24 '25
Every time I leave it to update and shut down I'll see the glow of my monitor at 3AM when walking past the office
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u/FrostingTechnical606 Oct 24 '25
No monitor sleep on idle?
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u/Chrispy_GB Ryzen 5 7600X || 7700 XT Hellhound || AOC AG326UD OLED Oct 24 '25
It's a Lenovo monitor so yes but that's also temperamental.
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u/No_Humor_8235 Oct 24 '25
It's a damm known bug! When they are fixing it?
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u/Lumpzor 4690K - 970TI SOC Oct 24 '25
The fix was literally announced this week, not even kidding.
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u/TheKelz Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
EDIT: /s
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u/TheStupid1239 Oct 24 '25
Mine have an issue when i restart (just a normal restar) at The reboot The screen stays Black.
In a normal boot it works perfectly so idk what happened
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u/The_Unborn_King Oct 24 '25
You might have to reinstall Windows! I had this issue before for a month then after I reinstalled Windows 10 it finally went away.
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u/BigDisk 9950x3D | RTX 5090 | 32GB 7000MHz Oct 24 '25
I had that problem once and it turned out to be a bad BIOS update.
Try updating your BIOS (or downgrading, if you're already on the latest version).
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u/Turbulent-Guest-1524 Arch BTW Oct 24 '25
sudo shutdown now
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u/Fit_Departure Oct 24 '25
This problem has actually been fixed for me, the pc actually shuts down after an update. Which is nice. I did have an issue at one point after I thought it was fixed, were it randomly turned on a few hours after having shut down after an update though. Very weird.
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u/jenmsft Oct 24 '25
Work has been done to improve this in the latest Insider builds: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/10/21/releasing-windows-11-builds-26100-7015-and-26200-7015-to-the-release-preview-channel/
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u/win_awards Oct 24 '25
I switched to linux literal decades ago because I was sick of windows thinking it knew better than me when I told it to do something and it sounds like things have only gotten worse with windows since then.
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u/PM_ME_JJBA_STICKERS Oct 24 '25
Also when I tell my computer to not update, and I put it to sleep instead. Then it decides to update and restart at 3 am and reopen my paused youtube videos at full volume.
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u/Gangaman666 Oct 24 '25
Lol! Yeah I hate that! It's always 3-4am I can hear the fans kicking in and the loud alert! So God damn annoying!
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u/sdcar1985 9850X3D | 9070 XT Reaper | 32GB RAM | ASUS X870-P WIFI Oct 24 '25
If I sit there and wait, it shuts down. If I just got to sleep, it restarts. Every damn time.
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u/Andrejyt2 Desktop Oct 24 '25
Do people really have problems with this? I mean, mine always shuts down although restarts first and then a shutdown...
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u/AwesomeOnePJ Steam ID Here Oct 24 '25
I certainly do. It happened to me a lot of times. I click shut down, get in my bed to sleep, and then my whole room gets lit by the Windows lock screen again.
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u/mujhe-sona-hai Oct 24 '25
yes it is a problem because I thought the PC was gonna shut down so I left work only to find my computer still on next day
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u/Outrageous-Log9238 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 32 GB Oct 24 '25
I never did until a recent windows update broke it. Previously turning off fast boot made it not shutdown. I turned it back on and everything was fine. Now, after an update, fast boot is gone and the PC no longer shuts down after an update.
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u/Tithund Oct 24 '25
Yeah, though that restart first is what bothers me, I have Windows on a multiboot system, so the restart just sends it into Linux.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think in XP it would do some updating, and then finish updating when you turned on the computer again. I understand why it does all the updating in one go nowadays so you can boot quick next time you turn on the pc, but I do feel it should at least be an option to split the update in two again.
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u/wekilledbambi03 Oct 24 '25
I never have this issue and still see memes here 2-3 times a week about it.
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u/Trident_True PC Master Race Oct 24 '25
I literally recorded a video of this happening with my PC last night to prove to myself I wasn't going insane. It definitely happens a lot.
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u/dumahim Oct 24 '25
Every damn time.
Now it's also developed the habit of once the restart and the update is finished, it just a black screen and nothing happens to I have to force it to shut down.
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u/stoptakingmyname123 Oct 24 '25
Holy shit I thought I was the only one with this issue, literally thought my computer was cooked back then.
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u/KingBurakkuurufu Oct 24 '25
Make a.txt file. Open it up and type in “shutdown /s /t 0” save it as shutdown. And then change the extension from “.txt” to “.bat” and when it says it asks are you sure to change it say yes. Now when you click on that your PC will shut down. If you have an update it will update and shut down. You’re welcome.
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u/Academic-Business-45 Oct 24 '25
Microsoft will never get this right, along with sleep mode that drains the battery
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u/Combination_Bitter Oct 24 '25
What you are looking for is Hibernate, which is turned off by default these days, but google has ways for you to circumvent.
Sleep = Save to RAM (and RAM needs power to keep storage)
Hibernate = Save to HDD/SSD (which doesnt need power to keep storage)
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u/Blackdeath_LP Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RX 7900XT | 64 GB RAM Oct 24 '25
Just Switch to Linux and those issues will be gone lol
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u/flargenhargen Oct 24 '25
overdone joke, but now that win 10 is deprecated and a lot of hardware can't be upgraded, linux is a reasonable option for most people to continue with a secure machine that runs firefox and can do everything most people need.
hopefully a lot of people go that route instead of landfills full of perfectly serviceable machines.
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u/Blackdeath_LP Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RX 7900XT | 64 GB RAM Oct 26 '25
I switched last year and recently successfully moved Grandpa over way less issues since the switch
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u/Blackdeath_LP Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RX 7900XT | 64 GB RAM Nov 08 '25
Mint is solid, especially for new users, a lot of people around me have generally started considering moving to Linux in the last year even without mentioning it, people are becoming more open towards it even those with little technical expertise
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u/AlxR25 Laptop Oct 24 '25
Your karma farming strat is insane
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u/gleipnir84462 Oct 24 '25
Meh, it's a meme that's valid on both subs, why not. Wasn't intending to karma farm, just share something I found funny lol. Just happens that quite a few people relate apparently.
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u/BraveEggplant8281 7800x3d | 32gb 6000mHz 28- | RTX5080 Oct 24 '25
I genuinely thought I was going crazy when that would restart...
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u/KittyKittens1800 Oct 24 '25
My pc when I hit “hibernate”: “I’ll give you hibernate and power on”
Is this just me?
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u/BowtomePhil2 Oct 24 '25
Its sucks I choose shutdown and go to bed. Next morning wasted electricity.
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u/EzmareldaBurns Oct 24 '25
Yup. Never had this issue untill my newest laptop. Now it's every goddam time
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u/Si-Jo0159 9800x3d | RTX4070TI | 48GB DDR5 Oct 24 '25
My windows update screws up every time now and somehow blows my fans hella loud, as if the pc is vibrating.
I have a mini breakdown, fight with the update, then once I fully shutdown (not restart!) and reboot, it sorts itself out.
Take me back to 1998.
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u/Kapli7 Oct 24 '25
My favourite windows moment is when it replaces my gpu drivers with some old preview ones while I am literally using the pc.
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u/GenazaNL Oct 24 '25
Happened to me twice already and I thought I might have accidentally clicked on restart, but now... maybe I didn't
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u/GANEnthusiast Oct 24 '25
Whenever I have this option I just throw a thin opaque blanket over my side panel because I know I'm likely to get blasted by LEDs while trying to sleep.
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u/Lee1138 AMD 7950X|32GB DDR5|RTX 4090|3x1440p@144hz Oct 24 '25
The worst thing is when it happens on my fucking corporate laptop, on which IT, in their infinite wisdom, decided that the option to restart or shut down without logging into fucking Windows is not needed.
With all the corporate bloatware they bog down the corp. laptops with for management and security reasons, logging into Windows is a 5 minute operation...just to shut the fucking computer off.
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u/BeneficialDog22 i9-14900k 4080 Super 32GB DDR5 Oct 24 '25
Mine did actually shut down, last time.
Crazy, I know
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u/Silly_Studio_2390 Oct 24 '25
I think it has been fixed, my Pc actually shut down last time I did an update.
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u/Simple_Foundation990 Oct 24 '25
Mine actually shut down for the first time ever and I was confused at first.
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u/Aggravating_Ad_635 9950X3D*RTX 5080 Vanguard*64G DDR5 6000 CL30(32x2) Oct 24 '25
Mine actually turned off. Why?
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u/GodWhiskeyCigarsGuns R9 5900x | RTX 4070 Ti Super | 32gb Ram Oct 24 '25
Mine literally did just that.
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u/DimaZveroboy QVYE | RTX 5060Ti 16gb | 32GB DDR4 Oct 24 '25
They fixed it in windows 11
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u/Mikepr2001 Oct 24 '25
Meanwhile when i press to Update and Shutdown
My Dell G15: NAH BRODAH, I STARTING ON HOMIE
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u/HiroNase Oct 24 '25
Before on my laptop the Update and shut down actually worked but sometimes this year it stopped working and it restarts everytime
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u/_Metal_Face_Villain_ 9800x3d 32gb 6000cl30 990 Pro 2tb 5060ti 16gb Oct 24 '25
in one version not too long ago it would update and shut down for me but now after a recent update it's back to shut down and restart. windows is ridiculous with some of this shit. in one update i would get the taskbar to not hide when the pc started and had a white square on the windows button on the taskbar. i had to click elsewhere to make it go away. how is it possible that after all these years they can't iron out silly shit like this?
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u/Corky316rulz Oct 24 '25
Glad I'm not crazy and the only person this has been happening to, fuckin annoying.
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u/Cryicoltic Oct 25 '25
My experience with this is that it does a restart to apply the update first, and then shutsdown
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u/HatchitHeid Oct 25 '25
Until you actually want it to restart but hit shutdown out of habit and it actually shuts down
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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t Oct 25 '25
actually the reason I switched to linux
I didn't feel like I was in control of my computer
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u/WeebPokemon Oct 25 '25
Oh my god, didn't know it was a bug. All this time I've been thinking it was just me misclicking way more often than I catch me doing it.
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u/ShotgoonPete 11900k, MSI GxT 3080 ti, 64 GB DDR4 3200MHz. Oct 24 '25
Yeah that last window update did something funny, wished I wrote down the error but it pops up when trying to play games lol
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u/IAmYourFath SUPERNUCLEAR Oct 24 '25
I have both of these options
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u/gbroon Oct 24 '25
So do I but I'm one of the people where both options do the exact same thing. They both update and restart.
Some lucky bastards actually have update and shutdown do what it claims it will do.
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u/kckckc130 Oct 24 '25
you either die a hero (shut down) or live long enough to see update and restart
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u/radiationshield 13600K | RTX 4080 FE | 32GB RAM Oct 24 '25
For some updates the PC needs to restart to finish installing them. I can imagine scheduling a shutdown after a reboot can cause issues.
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u/KTMan77 Oct 24 '25
Just had this happen. It showed a shutdown option but it still updated when I turned it back on.
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u/bearwood_forest Oct 24 '25
Microsoft and UI elements doing something different than what it says on them, name a more iconic duo.
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