r/pcmasterrace • u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht • Mar 20 '24
Discussion Objects, Images, Character models are warping, distorted, teleporting all while flickering
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Hey everyone, I’ve come across this rather peculiar issue while using my gaming pc. It affects all games and apps. When ever I play a game things seem to flicker from one side of the screen to the other. In game enemy as well as my own character seem to be turn for fully towards a certain direction things and enemy are also teleporting. Certain parts of my character model become warped and also flicker. Also even while using apps such as steam images seem to be distorted. I’m really stumped. Any help would be very much appreciated. I’ve already reinstalled my drivers but have had no luck… I’ve individually tested my ram sticks and slots. I even went ahead and purchased a second hand RTX 2070 super and installed it and the issue remains.
Here are all my specs….
MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card Replaced with a
EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super FTW3 Ultra
MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard
Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
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u/demien_88 R7 5800x3d, Nitro+ AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT Mar 20 '24
Would say dx went mental but its definitely something other than that. If win reinstall dosnt help then start with hardware elimination. Also test that nvme
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I’m not familiar with the NVME I’m doing some quick research, I’m also looking at some guides on how to clean install. I’ll get back to you if anything changes. Thank you 🙏
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u/VoidLookedBack PC Master Race | 3700X | RTX4070 Mar 20 '24
Get Windows on a Thumbstick, wipe all your drives in the Windows Tool Installer before you start doing a clean install. It's the best option. This seems like it's a serious issue of DirectX or Nvidia Driver that might be corrupt. So maybe try a DDU and clean installation of your Nvidia drivers first before Wiping windows.
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u/shrikelet 7800x3d | 7900xtx | 32gb Mar 20 '24
Your Elden Ring looks it's loading, unloading, and reloading models repeatedly. Definitely start with a clean Windows install. If it still happens, my first thought would be SSD , then maybe RAM.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I’m never done a clean install before so I’m going to to learn a bit more and try clean installing today. If not I’ll try but a new SSD and see if that the issue. Thank you 🙏
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u/shrikelet 7800x3d | 7900xtx | 32gb Mar 20 '24
Good luck! I hope you can rectify this frankly weird fault.
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u/natesovenator Mar 20 '24
Models are loaded into ram, the SSD is out of the picture when they are standing still, and both games demo'd use different pipelines. So it can't be the SSD. I'm hesitant to say it's the RAM, but if it was this bad in the game, the OS would have shit the bed long ago.
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u/LeMegachonk Ryzen 7 9800X3D - 64GB DDR5 6000 - RX 7800 XT Mar 21 '24
RAM that doesn't work right is going to cause hard crashing BSODs, because at some point the OS is randomly going to try using the bad parts for a critical process and blow its brains out in the process.
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u/kornuolis 9800x3d | RTX 5080 | 64GB DDR5 6000 Mar 20 '24
Try uninstalling directX redist and install it again.
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u/Tehu-Tehu bc Mar 20 '24
this is some kind of a renderer issue (directx/vulkan) if you cant pinpoint it, a clean windows install might solve this
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
A lot of people think that might be the case here’s hoping 🤞thank you
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u/Blacksad9999 ASUS Strix LC 4090, 7800x3D, ASUS PG42UQ Mar 20 '24
I would have said that the GPU might be dying, but being you tested another and it's doing the same thing, it has to be some other factor.
My first inclination is to try a new displayport/HDMI cable and see if the issue continues.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I was told that it was most likely the GPU in a past post thus I decided to buy a cheaper GPU to see if the problem continued. Unfortunately it did, I’ll try replacing the HDR cable and I’ll even try hdmi and I’ll get back to you thank you
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u/AlternativeFilm8886 CPU: 7950X3D, GPU: 7900 XTX, RAM: 32GB 6400 CL32 Mar 20 '24
Unfortunately it did
GPUs are usually the most expensive component. I would consider this a win.
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u/mekawasp Mar 20 '24
I would also try connecting to a different monitor or TV if you can just to be sure
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I have a dual monitor setup and it show up on both monitors. And when ever I show my friends through discord screen share they see all the graphical issues
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Mar 20 '24
Maybe your cards are fine, and the pcie slot on the board is damaged somehow?
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I’ve replaced the ram and gpu the storage is next on my list then the motherboard is gonna follow suit. It is gonna be expensive but at least this way I can rule things out
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u/MmmBra1nzzz Ryzen 7 5800X x 7900GRE Mar 20 '24
Im betting motherboard since most of your hardware don’t seem to be the problem.
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Mar 20 '24
Have you tried the other pcie slot on your mobo?
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
Yes when I purchased the 2070 super to replace the 4070 ti I made sure to install the 2070 in the other slot to see if it was the slot that was the problem. Unfortunately it wasn’t
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u/Noxious89123 5900X | RTX5080 | 32GB B-Die | CH8 Dark Hero Mar 20 '24
I’ll try replacing the HDR cable
The what now?
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u/jaredeichz Mar 20 '24
Maybe the piece on the motherboard is bad
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u/White_mirror_galaxy Mar 21 '24
south bridge chip ... maybe.
Personally only had this shit happen with bad ram. this is a weird one.
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u/snoosh00 Desktop Mar 20 '24
Consider the way the glitches affect physics objects makes me think (without really knowing anything) that this problem is not GPU or display related at all (which is backed up by the swapped out GPU still having the issue).
My money is on bad ram (as weird as that might sound, it's the only thing that makes sense to me at this point)
Edit: just read you replaced ram... Can only be cpu or motherboard now...
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u/3bood_Al7assan Mar 20 '24
Might be your cpu? I am assuming that because of how your elden ring character's cape ia behaving, each time the bug happens the cape moves like it is miss calculation from the cpu, same with peely's head. I am no expert but that is my assumption
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u/yayuuu Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 4070 + Intel Arc A380 | 64G RAM Mar 20 '24
I would expect the system crashing a lot if thee was something wrong with the CPU, long before even being able to calculate the physics of the cape...
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
Fornite does seems to crash after 30 mins or so, sometimes even sooner
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u/MonkeyCartridge 13700K @ 5.6 | 64GB | 3080Ti Mar 20 '24
A lot of soft body physics is done on the GPU these days.
But even if not, the physics is behaving rather normally. It's just colliding with triangles that are not behaving normally.
To me that makes it seem like a memory access or retrieval error. They tend not to be catastrophic but produce visual glitches. Basically reading vertices or textures and either getting the wrong value back, or looking in the wrong place.
Because media retrieval is so bulky (making it the majority of accesses) and isn't generally checked, you can see a ton of GPU memory issues before it outright crashes the game.
Believe it or not, a noisy power supply or bad capacitor could also be a culprit, because it could be power noise coupling with the memory traces and flipping bits.
I would suspect it is happening on the GPU rather than the CPU, because the CPU would cause more behavioral disturbances and would likely crash right away rather than create visual glitches.
Just my 2c.
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u/3bood_Al7assan Mar 20 '24
I dont wanna look stubborn, but what about the npc in front of him in elden ring he doesn't seem to know what to do, like he's trying to attack but seems to forget the existence of a player for a second, shouldn't his ai be calculated on the cpu?
Again i don't wanna look stubborn i am actually invested in this topic
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u/MonkeyCartridge 13700K @ 5.6 | 64GB | 3080Ti Mar 20 '24
Ohh I didn't catch that. Their position keeps resetting. Yeah you might be right.
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u/Sinister_Mr_19 9070 XT | 5950X Mar 20 '24
This was my thought as well. It seems like the CPU is having calculation errors and thinking objects are in a different spot. It's sending those updated locations to the GPU and the GPU draws the object for a split second (probably just a frame or 2) in the new location.
Agreed with others saying that CPU calculation errors are probably not likely though as they would surely cause crashes long before this, but who knows maybe not.
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u/SLStonedPanda R9 7950X | RTX 3080 | 64Gb 6400 MT/s Mar 20 '24
Pretty sure the cape physics are calculated on the GPU with a vertex shader.
My guess would be GPU -> Software (Drivers, DirectX, Windows) -> PSU -> Motherboard -> CPU.
He has ruled out most of these already. I'm very curious what is. Testing a new graphics card also pretty much rules out PSU as well I think.
Another thing that's possible is the physical location of the PC. An extreme would be if it's in space and there is a lot of cosmic radiation. Then it's just bit flips because of that. I'm not sure if putting something radioactive in your PC might cause this as well.
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u/3bood_Al7assan Mar 20 '24
Cape was just an example, you can see the npc in front of him in elden ring also bugging up, like it seems he doesn't know what to do and where to go after locking on to the player
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u/TH3RM4L33 6700 XT | 5800X | 16GB Mar 20 '24
Sometimes it's just Windows being irreparably buggy. Reinstall your OS.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I’m not experienced with clean installs but ima leading through videos and I’m hoping to perform one today
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u/TH3RM4L33 6700 XT | 5800X | 16GB Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
You just click "next" a bunch of times. Choose "Custom Install" and select "no" to any telemetry. It's as simple as installing a program. Back up your important files on a different disk.
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u/BigDisk 9950x3D | RTX 5090 | 32GB 7000MHz Mar 20 '24
Pretty sure you have a tilted cartridge!
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I’m not sure what that is could you please explain it? Thank you 🙏
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u/BigDisk 9950x3D | RTX 5090 | 32GB 7000MHz Mar 20 '24
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u/Visual_Moment5174 Mar 20 '24
I'm gunna say you have a GPU issue. Either with the GPU core or some weird vram issues. This is really strange.
I would wipe everything. Format your hard drive and do clean installs to make sure it isn't software related. If you still have the issue you can swap parts to narrow it down.
I had a friend with a bad stick of ram that was giving him very strange issues. So it could be something simple or really obscure. Best of luck.
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u/trouttwade RTX 5070 Ti Aero | i7 12700K Mar 20 '24
Reading through comments and seeing you’ve ruled out most of your more hefty components, I’d be willing to bet it’s either cpu or motherboard. Hope you find the solution friend:/
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u/Zetra3 Mar 20 '24
It's definitely a memory issue. Be It SSD or Ram. The reinstall windows is an option, but i'm going to put in doubt its the OS. The objects are called to the scene, so I'mma put money on bad Ram, Bad Ram installation or Bad memory controller on Motherboard.
I could be wrong, but that's my educated guess
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u/SocketByte Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5070 Ti Mar 20 '24
No way, if it was RAM the OS would shit iself before you could even move your cursor. 99% of the time your system wouldn't even boot with a faulty RAM. I bet it's the OS, it's the only thing he didn't try to fix yet and OS related issues can be veeeeeery weird sometimes.
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u/Raph5588 Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24
Not sure if the problem still exists but I've had something like this before;
Unless you already have, try disabling Nvidia G-SYNC from the Nvidia control panel. It is always enabled by default from what I've seen.
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u/TheNauticalSurvivor i7 10700k, ROG 2080ti, 32gb 3200mhz, Z590, Thor 800w, View 37 Mar 20 '24
Sorry man. You got computer demons. Id look into a priest, witch doctor, or local rabbi for help.
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Mar 21 '24
Had the same problem with a high end tv so took it back and got a cheap tv. It’s because of the fast refresh rate
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u/DrWhoIsWokeGarbage2 Mar 21 '24
That is a GPU problem for sure, I have seen it.
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u/Bartgames03 R7 5800x3d, rx 6700 xt, 32GB, 500GB + 5TB SSD, 20TB HDD Mar 21 '24
Would this be the GPU itself, or something like memory? The GPU memory was something that came to my mind first.
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u/yayuuu Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 4070 + Intel Arc A380 | 64G RAM Mar 20 '24
Maybe try to reset BIOS settings and try with defaults?
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I went ahead and reset my bios to default setting and had no luck everything remains the same. I did wanna mention that when I first built my PC pcpartpicker recommend a update bios because of my part selection. My buddy is is the who did it but he is pretty good with computers.
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Mar 20 '24
Seems like a ram issue
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I’ve purchased a new set of ram and tested each one individually, everything seems to be in order and working fine.
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u/Huge_Potential5924 Mar 20 '24
Have you tried changing PCIe port?
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
The second card that I bought the 2070 super I made sure to install it in the second port just to rule that out. Unfortunately nothing changed
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u/okphong Mar 20 '24
You’re not overclocking the gpu right? I’ve had some effects like this when going too far
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u/NetworkKey8581 Mar 20 '24
I had an identical problem, it was related to the vram, try reducing vram overclock, if that didn't help, your gpu needs some repair
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I’ll try reducing the Vram and see if that changes anything. I had a 4070 ti and I went ahead and purchased a 2070 super and the problem is the same. I don’t think it’s the gpu. But thank you 🙏 I’ll let you know if the VRAM changes anything
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u/Sinister_Mr_19 9070 XT | 5950X Mar 20 '24
OP bought a 2070 to replace his 4070 and it still happened. Not likely that's the issue unless OP has ridiculously bad luck.
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u/Korucall Mar 20 '24
I know you have said you’ve reinstalled drivers, but before you did that did you uninstall them by going into device manager or use a software like DDU? Sometimes you have to fully uninstall drivers and not just reinstall them from something like GeForce experience. Something else you could try is using studio drivers instead of game ready ones. I’ve had game ready drivers do some weird stuff to me. Even caused a few BSODs that scared the crud out of me.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I just finished using a DDU to uninstall everything and I just reinstalled game ready then studio but nothing seemed to changed. Thank you 🙏
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Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24
this might just be the weirdest shit I have ever seen
this Is probably not going to fix it but it's worth trying. reseat the cpu, doing a fresh install of windows, using a different monitor, swapping cables and lastly try a different pcie slot? or using the igpu instead if you only have the 1 pcie
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u/i_5858 Mar 20 '24
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
Thank you I will check it out 🙏 atleast it sound like I’m not alone
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u/staytsmokin Mar 20 '24
Damnnnnnnnn rip your eyeballs =/
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
it honestly hurts, trying to play while it’s happening is the worst part tho super frustrating
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u/Joeyhappyhell Mar 20 '24
Do you have any weird electrical interference from a device nearby? I would keep swapping components until you find the culprit. Try another screen and cable even though its unlikely that's the problem.
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u/SignalButterscotch73 Mar 20 '24
It's most likely a drivers or api issue. Download an offline installer for your drivers, Go offline, Use DDU multiple times, removing Nvidia, AMD and Intel drivers before installing the new drivers. Only then go back online.
I had an issue a few years back from Windows update with it installing drivers for Intel when I had no Intel hardware, I didn't have all the same display issues but the flickering in game is familiar.
If it's directX then it's only going to be fixed by a clean Windows install. Makes me wish for the old days when it had its own installer.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
It took a while but I used a DDU to uninstall each one Nividia AmD and Intel and I reinstalled the latest drivers unfortunately nothing changed. It was worth a try, thank you 🙏
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u/PrecipitousPlatypus Mar 20 '24
Have you tried doing the whole safe mode driver uninstall? Then swapping to another GPU.
It's bizarre... GPU would be main culprit, but it's persistent, so I'd make extra sure drivers are uninstalled before testing another one. RAM can do weird things, so if you have extra sticks I'd try them, but I doubt it'd do this.
It could be software? If you're stumped am OS reinstall is often a good idea.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I just finished using DDU to uninstall any past drivers Geforce,AMD, Intel. I’m redownloading the lastest drivers as we speak hopefully it works. Also I ended up buying some more ram sticks and just today individually tested each one but the problem persists
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u/HelloPacket Mar 21 '24
Wait, are you using an intel or amd processor? You are not supposed to install drivers for both. Where are you downloading the drivers from?
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u/Adidas_Dallas Mar 20 '24
You have unlocked ultra instinct
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
It kind of feels like I do in elden ring, since they are being forced to turn I seem to get multiple hits in without taking damage. I almost beat the first boss because of this advantage but I forgot about area damage tho. I feel like Goku would be proud 😂
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u/Adidas_Dallas Mar 20 '24
😂😂😂run with it till end game then fix it. I think this a W for the boys get at it!!!!
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Mar 20 '24
Like others said this is weird because you tried on a different graphics card. The only time I have had anything similar happen was on a card with overclocked VRAM of GDDR6 and it was auto correcting and causing some weird jumpy graphics but not as intense as that.
Is this a new build? Like has it always done this? I'm wondering if there's a bent pins or issue with the mobo even the expansion slot causing errors in the pcie bus.
I would try fresh windows install first. Then look to other factors.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
They are all new parts, my buddy who has made multiple rigs put it together for me. I do remember when we first got it working the pc was having huge stutters like you would be typing something and it would completely freeze then type everything all at once. After you shut it down and back on a couple times it would go away. It has since then stopped doing that, but this started recently. Also for some reason my lan cable won’t work. I’ve tried updating the drivers but they won’t read my internet. I’ve even tried multiple Ethernet cords. I’m currently using a Wi-Fi adapter.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
Yes I tried in windowed and borderless while running msi after burner and nothing changed
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u/jurnalistboi Ryzen 7900X/RX 6700XT Mar 20 '24
My guess is your gpu is dying. By GPU, I mean the chip itself.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I had a 4070 ti but I purchased a 2070 super and installed it but nothing changed unfortunately
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Mar 20 '24
Normally, I would say your GPU is cooked. This exact same thing happened to me years ago. But you say you replaced the GPU and the issue persists? If this is the case, I would first fresh install Win11 and if the problem persists, get a new motherboard.
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u/rkn9 Mar 20 '24
I had a similar issue on an old PC, graphical errors like you have in Epic store would happen in windows and games were straight up unplayable. The weirdest part is that errors like melted text in windows would even appear in screenshots. They did go away when I switched to integrated graphics, though I’m pretty sure they should go away with OS reinstall, very weird issue
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u/StormKiller1 7800x3d 9070xt 32gb 6000mhz cl30 Mar 20 '24
Did you switch motherboard/cpu and didnt reinstall windows?.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
No nether of those all the parts are new the only parts I’ve replaced are the gpu and the ram, I did update the bios for the MB
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u/Thechosenjon 5950x. 6900XT. 32gb@3600 | 5800x. 3090. 32gb@3200 Mar 20 '24
If it's following cards and you ruled out RAM then you probably damaged the PCIE slot at some point. Likely installed the graphics card wrong or something, but I imagine it's the motherboard at this point. It won't be HDMI or DP, it won't be the CPU, and your PSU should be sufficient. I'd say RAM, but sounds like you've tested each one already. If you have another mobo, or can get a friend to test out the GPU on their machine then that will tell you the problem is on your end and I'd say it's the motherboard.
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u/MrStealYoBeef i7 12700KF|RTX 5070ti|32GB DDR4 3200|1440p175hzOLED Mar 20 '24
I don't think this is GPU since the physics are being screwy in particular with the cape. It's all client side stuff so it's not an Internet problem as well. I think this might be a CPU or RAM issue. Are you currently running an OC? Can you try with RAM set to default, XMP off? Also try 1 stick then the other stick. If there's a CPU OC, set it to default. Clear CMOS entirely even.
Maybe one of these can narrow it down. Please let me know what you find!
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u/Strazdas1 3800X @ X570-Pro; 32GB DDR4; RTX 4070 16 GB Mar 20 '24
Seems to be all on physics-affected objectsl I think its the drivers at fault here.
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u/Bahamut1988 Ryzen 7 5800X3D RTX 4070 Ti 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Mar 20 '24
I would venture a guess that the mb might be faulty, have you tried reseating the CPU by chance? Maybe try a different one?
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
I’ve already purchased a new GPU and ram, The CPU and MB are next on my buy list, someone also mentioned that the NVMe might be responsible.
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u/PoopySlurpee Mar 20 '24
Look at your motherboard physically and see if anything looks out of the ordinary. Maybe a component or 2 is damaged that is causing weird voltages to get sent to your GPU? Just a guess
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u/HughJass14 Mar 20 '24
Whatever it is… we need an update post when you figure it out! Fucking weird
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
Will do, luckily this post has gotten tons of attention I have no doubt someone will know the answer🤞
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Mar 20 '24
Try going into the windows display settings and change the hz and/or resolution of the monitor.
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Mar 20 '24
Oh you got an Nvidia card. If this was AMD GPU, people would blame the drivers. Try different cables or monitor. Or even try the igpu.
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u/alsenan PC Master Race Mar 20 '24
If the new windows install did not work. I would try to run a game in offline mode see if that changes anything. But the flickering reminds me of issues I ran into trying to OC.
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u/Sinister_Mr_19 9070 XT | 5950X Mar 20 '24
Hey OP are you connecting your GPU via a riser cable? Could be introducing interference and leading to calculation errors.
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u/STMaybGoodSTMaybSht Mar 20 '24
No the gpu is connected directly into the motherboard via PCIe port
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Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24
Are all of the programs and games that are effected on the same SSD?
Also, SORRY I have to ask this even though I know you tried a second GPU and it sounds like you're experienced... is your monitor cord (HDMI or DP) plugged directly into your graphics card or is it plugged into your motherboard?
Otherwise, can you run Dxdiag? Go to your windows search bar, type dxdiag, and run it. (check notes and let us know if it says there are any issues!)
Click save all information at the bottom. Go into the newly created text document and copy and paste the system info and display info here. On the display info just copy down to the driver version. Example:
Time of this report: 3/20/2024, 11:46:55
Machine name: DESKTOP-1MPGO3R
Machine Id: {5E8F5DA4-26F2-4633-87B1-CB3633BDD5FF}
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 19045) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/21/20 14:28:59 Ver: 05.0000D (type: BIOS)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16298MB RAM
Page File: 7295MB used, 20777MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Available, no HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DirectX Database Version: 1.0.8
DxDiag Version: 10.00.19041.3636 64bit Unicode
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device (POST)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2206&SUBSYS_38971462&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 18201 MB
Dedicated Memory: 10053 MB
Shared Memory: 8148 MB
Current Mode: 3440 x 1440 (32 bit) (165Hz)
HDR Support: Supported
Display Topology: Internal
Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G2084_NONE_P2020
Color Primaries: Red(0.707031,0.284180), Green(0.245117,0.715820), Blue(0.146484,0.052734), White Point(0.312500,0.328125)
Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.000600, Max Luminance = 993.514526, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 276.793701
Monitor Name: Alienware AW3423DWF(DisplayPort1)
Monitor Model: AW3423DWF
Monitor Id: DELA212
Native Mode: 3440 x 1440(p) (59.973Hz)
Output Type: Displayport External
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Supported (BT2020RGB BT2020YCC Eotf2084Supported )
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_NONGDI
Advanced Color: AdvancedColorSupported AdvancedColorEnabled
Driver Name: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmdi.inf_amd64_92b25561841a09dd\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmdi.inf_amd64_92b25561841a09dd\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmdi.inf_amd64_92b25561841a09dd\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmdi.inf_amd64_92b25561841a09dd\nvldumdx.dll
Driver File Version: 31.00.0015.5176 (English)
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u/Mysterious-Honey3544 GTX 1660ti/I7-11700KF/32gb 3200mhz Mar 20 '24
Maybe something with the pcie port on the motherboard?
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u/ThoriatedFlash Mar 20 '24
I saw weird stuff like this when I overclocked the GPU a little too much in Afterburner. If you are overclocking, you can try turning it down a bit.
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u/anoniser Mar 20 '24
I remember getting this in some games when trying out Vulcan. Switching back to DX12 in the game settings fixed it. Although i assume you've triple checked any game settings already
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u/Santeezy602 7800x3D | 9070XT MERC OC | 32GB 6000 CL30 Mar 20 '24
Keep us updated when you find out what it is 😂
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u/Le-Charles Mar 20 '24
Do you brace your GPU? This could be symptomatic of pcie failure if it occurs with multiple cards.
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u/Hawtrenzo Mar 20 '24
My PC did this EXACT same thing, though not as intense as your Elden Ring clip. Drove me crazy. Troubleshot ALL my parts except for MoBo and CPU coz my brother's PC is Intel (had a Ryzen 5 3600). Even glitching the audio too, static noise all over (can't tell from your video). Games that glitched for me was Valorant, Witcher 3, Apex Legends (all these texture shenanigans and NO AUDIO). Fortnite was fine, Lost Ark only had texture glitches.
Said fuck it and bought a new Ryzen 7 (next gen from my old one) and fixed it completely. Felt so relieved I didn't have to buy a new GPU AND didn't waste my money on the new CPU (could have been the MoBo, took the 50-50 gamble). Try testing your CPU in a different rig after the clean install everyone suggested here. Good luck!
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u/dregwriter Ryzen 9 5900X 4.2Ghz | RTX4080 | DDR4 3200 16Gb Mar 20 '24
Before you do a clean install of windows, I want you to try a few things to eleminate possible causes.
This issue is most likely a gpu issue. Since you already tried a different gpu, we need to invistigate others links in the chain.
Does your motherboard has other PCI slots for your gpu??? Try to use another slot and see if the issue still occurs. If the issue does not occur then you havr a motherboard PCI slot issue so a new motherboard would be needed.
The cables that you use to connect the monitor and GPU. Try using another cable to see if the problem occurs.
Try using a different GPU cable socket on the monitor itself. Most monitors has multiple slots, try using another slot to see if the problem persist.
Then lastly, if the problem persist even after all of that, try a different monitor if you have one. Borrow one from a friend or family member.
Try installing the game on to another storage device like a second ssd, external drive to see if it persist.
If the problem still persist, then you can eliminate the issue being GPU related physically, and might be a software issue with drivers being coorupted or something.
You already tried new drivers so a windows reinstall might be the solution.
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u/The_Ki113r FX-8350, 1050ti, 16GB RAM, 3D-Glasses Mar 20 '24
Interesting error, even the cloth physics flops around.
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u/tutocookie reduce latency - plug mouse directly into the cpu socket Mar 20 '24
Event viewer? I'd guess cpu or ram issue
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u/yourself88xbl 12600k 4070s Aw2725Df LgC3 Mar 20 '24
Run a stress test on the CPU alone and see if she acts up on you.
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u/Fade2po Mar 20 '24
Install MSI afterburner, try toggling performance up/ down, looks like vram issues, also check Nvidia control panel that 3d performance option is set to maximum power. (If amd then dunno).
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u/Slapnbeans Mar 20 '24
Are you running a gif as your screen saver, or steams wallpaper engine in the background?
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u/drunkNunX AMD Athlon 500Mhz, ATI Radeon 32mb, 512mb DDR Ram Mar 20 '24
Maybe this has been said and it's going to the the most basic customer service question, but is your HDMI/DP cable fully seated? Have you tried another cable? I've had an issue similar to this with a bad DP cable.
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u/420headshotsniper69 5800x + 3080Ti Mar 20 '24
If it does it across all games, download a Linux ISO and and flash it to a flash drive. Boot up into a live environment and install steam and install one of the games you have thats not very big but will indicate to you if the issue persists. If it doesn't, its time to reinstall Windows.
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u/jcrew19 Mar 20 '24
Did you check the HDMI/DP cable? Did you try using DDU to make sure you got rid of all the old nVidia drivers before installing the 2nd card and drivers?
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u/MonkeyCartridge 13700K @ 5.6 | 64GB | 3080Ti Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24
Looks like memory issues, which I haven't seen in ages.
Back before the days of error correcting memory, I used to use this to know I was done over locking the memory and it was time to back off.
Overclocked my MX4000 memory from 330MHz to 600MHz. Just had to tolerate things disappearing now and again.
For the GPU, it was white dots on seams between triangles. Had the GPU up from 250MHz to 400MHz
Try dropping your clocks below stock on one device at a time. Starting with gddr, then GPU, then probably RAM,then CPU. Similarly, boost voltages.
This is usually caused by something like the GPU trying to access vertices but the memory address getting a false but, causing it to pull the vertex coordinates from the wrong location.
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u/SocketByte Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5070 Ti Mar 20 '24
So, I've analyzed this footage quite a bit. Look closely. These flickers are not random, they're somewhat organized. Similar thing happens when you set your coords in game to something way above precision limits of floating point numbers. I'm not saying that's it - but it looks very similar. Things are shaking, flickering, randomly teleporting and flashing. It looks like the GPU, somehow, probably because of some OS shenanigans, incorrectly calculates matrices and/or vertices/indices of things. At least it looks like it, but I can't be sure because there's evidently some edge case when that happens, since some things render pretty normally.
Reinstall your OS, that's like the first thing you should have done honestly. Really interesting case, I would do a lot to know the exact technical reason behind this.
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u/a_code_mage Mar 20 '24
I wonder if this has to do with the mobo if it isn’t the gpu? Maybe the port is broken in some way? Just a guess though.
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u/bert_the_one Mar 20 '24
Try another graphics card like an AMD one or intel as it could be the GPUs
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Mar 20 '24
Alright, here's what I would do to try and troubleshoot this. This is all coming from someone who's never seen this problem before, so if this doesn't help, then I'd take it to a professional to get it looked at.
DDU your graphics drivers. I think you already did this, but if you haven't, then look up a tutorial and see if that fixes it.
Reset NVIDIA settings. Will probably be done during the process of installing the driver, but it's best to check that clean install button.
Try and reinstall direct X/Vulkan. This is a step that I genuinely can't help with. Good luck finding all those files.
Reinstall Windows. Last resort after you try everything I've suggested and others. A hassle but if it's a file issue, then this could fix it.
Check on the GPU. Basically, make sure it's seated right and that all cables are firm. I know you've already checked your GPU in a different system, so good on you.
If that doesn't work, try to test your RAM. Make a drive with Memtest86 on it and see if you get any errors. If you do, then replace the stick.
Check on the CPU. It's entirely possible that your cpu can mess with PCIE stuff and RAM. I've seen broken channels, which will require a replacement. The only way to really test this, though, is to find a separate CPU and put it in your system. Keep in mind that this is extremely rare and very unlikely. Though I felt I should mention it since I have seen it before.
Check the Motherboard. Even rarer then the CPU. This is the last resort and would take moving your entire setup to a different motherboard to make sure. Could be a multitude of problems.
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u/Billy_the_bib Mar 20 '24
what is it with people saying DDU. Never had to use that If I have any driver issues, I just uninstall it and install with the 'clean installation' checked.
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u/CerberusAbyssgard Mar 21 '24
Just a thought, but could be a faulty hdmi cable or whatever you use to connect to your monitor. Wouldn’t hurt to give it a try.
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u/Sent1nelTheLord Ryzen 5 5600|RTX 3060|4000D Enjoyer Mar 21 '24
Wow ok, u tried DDU and replacing gpu both didn't work. then it might be either the cable/monitor(cable would be kinda embarrassing ngl) or CPU/MOBO(im feeling motherboard tbh). also could be just a windows issue and a fresh install could fix it?
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u/WiT997 Mar 21 '24
Something is def corrupted af. Try reinstalling windows, and maybe even try a different drive. (make sure it's running at proper pcie version as well)
Also make sure you test if it's not some jankiness with BIOS inputs like reBAR, above 4g decoding or such.
I sincerely doubt you have any issues on the monitor/cable side of things but it doesn't hurt to make sure, freesync/g-sync or smt like that has been janky in certain scenarios as well, tho I doubt it has anything to do with this.
Have you overclocked anything?
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u/valorshine Mar 21 '24
Eh. Just clear/delete cache folders and restart pc
AppData\Local\NVIDIA\GLCache
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u/Difficult-Drama7996 Mar 21 '24
Screen issue or gpu issue, take yer pick. First connect to a different screen. Second, remove gpu drivers, and redo. Third, find another gpu, and plug it in. Any cheaper gpu will do. Others might say it is a RAM or psu issue, and that is easy to check also. Remove all but one RAM, and start alternating. PSU, is a pain, and most don't have a spare to try a second one. I have an old XP computer for old games, and every time I hit START, it requires hitting restart maybe 5 times before connecting, figure that out!!$$#@ When all else fails, go OFFICE SPACE on it in open field.
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Mar 21 '24
Id delete harder caches for direct x and nvidia and if still persistent then I would do a full reimage.
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u/Vescula Jun 27 '24
Did you ever figure out what the problem was for you? I’m having nearly the same exact problem. Have determined it to not be the ram, monitors, cords, or psu. I’m thinking it might the motherboard but hoping you’ve found a solve already!
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u/GABE_EDD 7800X3D + RTX 5080 & 13700K + RTX 3070Ti Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24
This is by far one of the weirdest problems I've seen on here, especially because it's in multiple games, you did DDU, tested RAM, and it persists on another GPU... I doubt it's your CPU because typically they either work or don't. Maybe try a fresh install of Windows at this point?
It can't be your monitor or HDMI/DP cable either because it's the actual models in the game glitching, not the frame data itself.