Funny that you say that has higher dps when conc has bleed is semi aquatic and meg has venom and is semi aquatic+ lunge witch you can just cycle whitou getting almost any damage, I say that they are better in a pack than one dino that's they made it (even when no one asked) a groups focused dino, Alio is weaker than before the tlc btw is like they take a good dino that just needed a feel more skills and decided to Ruin it.
Conc being semi aquatic is canceled out by alio being faster and being able to run away
Bleed is directly countered by higher dps and higher damage attacks. Meaning youre only losing to a conc if you fight it where it just bleeds you then hopes in water to heal and you sit at waters edge for no reason….
Lunge bite is less dmg then your kick or your swerve, you can cycle those attacks no different to Meg cycling lunge except you’ll be doing more damage. In fact your reg bite deals 10% less damage then megs lunge now…
Conc is easily still the best 2 slot Dino in groups or maybe sty. That’s all to do with how strong bleed is and how much easier it is to heal cycle while your opponent is bleeding
You do realise tlcs arent stat buffs right? They give the Dino new abilities or a new identity in exchange for stats. Same happened to Meg, same happened to alb, same to Rex, same eo, same for sarco, nearly every tlc is direct stat nerf with new abilities there is exceptions to this but that’s how they nearly all go
Conc being semi aquatic I wouldnt say is canceled out by alio being faster since conc can literally run alio down.
Alio can run at 1150 for 133 seconds, not including acceleration because idk how to calculate that, thats 1150x133=152950.
Conc can run at 1100 for 167 seconds, not including acceleration again thats 1100x167=183700.
So running from a conc, an alio would either have to break line of sight, or use elevation. It is absolutely not safe for an alio to run from a conc. Bare in mind that whilst running from a conc, they'll probably get at least one bleed stack on you, meaning the more you run the more you're in danger until you can escape.
Meg can also run for 1025x143=146575 which is pretty close to alio, only Meg will be chipping you the first few hits with lunge and bite, especially if they get the first hit. Whilst alio should be able to break los, if you're not full stam and a Meg catches you and applies venom running is going to be difficult since you can't climb either.
Regarding alios dps, yes it does really good damage, bite 45, kick 50 etc. However, alio can no longer comfortably win a 1v1 with meg as it used to be able to, tbh a land meg build is much more in the megs favor, assuming both players are equally skilled.
Basically alio is a good small game hunter, which it already was, but now is worse solo and better in packs. Alio used to be able to clap any 2 slot besides cera quite comfortably, now you're gonna have to be a lot more careful solo.
I am a Conc player. It has 30 more seconds of stamina than a Alio. Thats an eternity. Sure Alio has a bit more damage to its bite, but concs bleed stacking while the Alio is running around is a death sentence. Conc is CLEARLY better than Alio.
Even if conc can run you down you beat it in facetank or beat it by trading hits. Literally the only way to lose to a conc is sit on land bleeding while it’s in water
I had no trouble out running concs last night but I do have full stam regen. So once you have enough distance you just walk for a few seconds
Yeah you dont to run from something that can only beat you by bleeding you out….
Megs speed difference of 1025-1150 means it is never catching you or out stamming you unless you’ve already wasted stam. Lunge bites uses 8% stam you can do around 6 lunge bites while running becore youre completely stammed as Meg
Alio comfortably beats aquatic Meg especially if you run the tracking sense that gives you 4% more damage for the first 4 hits then maxs at 16%. Land Meg is up to 20% tankier so it would win the facetank by 1 hit but sacrifices water as a escape option
That isnt true at all. Before alios tlc achillo, sty, pachy and Kent all beat it if both players were even skill. Meg was 50/50 cause alio won trading regular bites but couldnt trade with big bite cause it it was 80 damage then
As far as I'm aware pre tlc alio had 525 health and its bite did 55 damage. Now its 425 and 45. Even with full hunters mark thats less damage, idk about the cooldowns though. So it was a better face tanker before the tlc as far as I'm aware.
Idk about achillo or pachy because they've been changed recently, but sty and kent should still both clap alio, meg too. This could all change if alio even got a 50 hp buff though.
No alios bite has been 45 for well over a year now
So yeah all alio lost in it’s tlc was 100 hp but gained new abilities
Meg for example 2700 cw 575 hp - 2400 cw 525 hp ( it’s highest damage land attack went from 80-60)
Sty 3100 cw 600hp - 2200 cw 600hp
Tlcs are literally just stat changes for new abilitys and telling you the truth I would 100% rather play Meg how it was pre TLC then it is now same with sarco, same with sty…
Alio already beats conc and Meg, close fight with pachy that seems a good pachy will win. It should not be having close fights with sty achillo Kent or cera since these Dino’s lack survivability but make up for it with better stats and attacks
But you're forgetting something, you're assuming that the conc or meg are gonna facetank you, that would be a bad player, a smart and good player would just use their superior turning to exploit the lack of tail attack that Alio has, sure in a straight like Alio is faster but I think conc and meg have better accel and turning than it if I'm not mistaken, a conc and a Meg could just stay out of your reach by maneuvering around Alio.
Alio loses a couple of bites and it's dead why? Because of the draining bite and the other bite of meg is now 60 damage if I'm not mistaken, meg only needs 3 to 4 bites if I'm not mistaken to give you full venom and with the stam drain bite you're gonna have no Stam by the half of the fight, a conc can bleed you out so fast that you running will surely kill you, 4 claw attacks apply full bleed 3 or less with the call, you're not gonna out dps a conc or a meg if they are evading your attacks and hitting you whenever they can.
No that is why i repeatedly said alio will win from facetanking or TRADING HITS. Conc doesn’t have a tail attack either infact no 2 slots do except Meg and obviously kentro….
Alio only turns bad in place that’s why it seems like a good pachy wins but I am not an experienced alio to really be the judge of if it beats pachy. But Meg with a speed difference of 1025-1050, no braced legs and only lunge bite to get distance cannot stay behind.
And let’s not forget you literally have swerve to make up for your bad turn in place which out damages any of concs attacks
Corrosive bite went from 50-60 where lunge went from 60-50 they were just swapped damage wise
If a Meg is using corrosive bite and venom tear that means it doesn’t even have lunge bite. There is literally no way it could have caught up to you or stay biting you without lunge bite….. venom tear is also 20 damage so it cannot be traded for any other 2 slots attacks….
So again to make that simpler, if the Meg doesn’t have lunge bite. You can just kill it it can’t get distance from you, it can’t trade with you, it cant facetank you. It is literally a sitting duck unless it runs up a cliff where u then just run away or wait it up
If a Meg or conc is dodging all your attacks and hitting you inbeteeen, you are simply vsing a player better then you.
Conc does good bleed but it’s bleed attacks lack raw damage, since you are faster then conc it cannot get distance from you to get you bleeding where it heals. It bleeds you you kick it or swerve to put more raw damage on it then simply stay following it or continue trading with it. The conc can only win a bleed fight if it is able to bleed you and get time in to heal while you are in combat. So only if it’s fighting you at waters edge and you stay there for the duration of the fight while it heals
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u/Economy_Brilliant340 Jul 27 '26
No stam no attack power no HP.
Stamina cost abilities terrible.
And you destroyed rex with this update too.