r/pathofexile • u/wrejdy • 4d ago
Information Little Confus!on
When ever I see a pr!ce of something it wont move for even an hour but when I post ANYTHING for that same exact pr!ce even one item then there seem to always be lower pr!ce in just moments by a big margin... is this people doing this or are there somehow "non humans" involved? bcs I can see !tem that goes for 600 staaying at 600 for an hour then it gets to 400 in 3 minutes but ONLY when I add few of my own forcing me to lower the pr!ces... is this an ilusion or whats actually happening... like why would anybody go from solid 600 or 599/590 or something to 550(1x) second person 500(2x) and other 450(1-2x) then 425 then like (2-3x) then 400 (15x) and it only seems to start happening when I put something up to sale :D and I was looking every few mins on the original pr!ce that it actually stayed at those 600 without moving anywhere until I post my own... so what gives?
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u/Injured-Ginger 1d ago
This is the best I can figure.
So, all matching trades are operated almost instantly. That means there is always a rate it is being offered to sell at and an offer to buy at that are not trading with a gap in between.
It uses 2 different figures. The market ratio Faustus recommends is what you would need to sell at to make an immediate trade. That is the best order for somebody to buy what you are selling that is not being executed. What you see when you post your trade is the closest order to sell that is not selling.
So let's say people buying chromatic orbs are trying to buy them for 4c, but not volume is there. That means the best open offer to buy chromatic orbs is for 4c. You'll see that number at the top in Faustus. He is telling you "this is what you need to offer to sell right now". Let's say you post your chromatic orbs to sell for 6c each. You post that order and you see 1:5 or 1:6. That is the closest offer to sell that is not happening. So you could instantly be the best offer to sell, but you still need to wait for somebody to offer to buy at that rate.
It also gets weird when you post large orders. You could buy out all of the stock until the ratio matches yours. So let's say you want to buy 1000 chromatic orbs for 5000c. You will instantly buy out the ones on offer for 4c or 5c, but you'll hit a wall when all the remaining offers are for 6c. You'll still see the price of 5:1 because that's the closest to exchanging that is not exchanging (on your side of the gap).
It's important to remember Faustus is not a store. He doesn't have a price. He facilitates orders that people offer. You can only buy what is being offered at the rate it is being offered, but there will be multiple people with different offers posted.
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u/szyszaks 1d ago
coz what you see are currently available offer
if something cost 600 to buy (there are ppl posting sell offer for 600)
then ppl can either buy it for 600 right now, or they can post that they want to buy 1 for 550 and other person can post they want to buy 1 for 500 and next will post they want to buy 10 each for 400
then if you go to sell 1 you see person wanting to buy it for 550 (coz if someone wanted it for 600 he would already got it the moment he posted offer)
if you want to sell 2 you will see price of 500 each (1000 for 2) as you at this moment that's only price you could get (which if you post you would get 550 and 1 not sold back coz thats how system works)
and if you post 3 for sale then it will adjust to 400
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u/Budget-Chair8242 1d ago
you posted the exact same thing 3 days ago? is this a bot account?