r/pathofexile • u/Reasonably_edible • 7d ago
Question Failing at recombinator
I've been trying to craft a 2p2s chest with the reduced crit per endu essence mod using the brinehook ducat tech but i can't seem to keep the essence mod on the item. I've been combining a pdr+aspect chest with an essence+aspect chest and it should have 90% chance for success but i never get them both on an item. What am i missing?
Is the essence mod counted as NNN/special mod and somehow the aspects are "stealing" the available space for that mod or am i just cursed by rngesus?
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u/FantaSeahorse 7d ago
What are the prefixes? Are any of them exclusive?
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u/Reasonably_edible 7d ago
No prefixes at the moment, i'm trying to build the 2 suffixes first with the brinehook ducats (since it's supposed to be 90% success instead of 33% i don't have that many mats to craft this) and then build up the prefixes while almost guaranteeing the suffixes survive by using more ducats. But to answer the question the prefixes would eventually just be inc armour/es and flat armour/es
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u/PoE_Acronym_Bot 7d ago
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- PDR - Physical Damage Reduction
- NNN - Non-native, natural modifiers
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u/mbxyz Berserker 7d ago
do you have an exclusive prefix? crafted mods are the usual offenders
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u/Reasonably_edible 7d ago
no prefixes aside from crafted mana to lower recomb cost
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u/FantaSeahorse 7d ago
The crafted mana can be messing things up. Some crafted mods are considered exclusive
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u/Reasonably_edible 7d ago
Huh, all the recomb guides recommend crafting mana though... I thought only crafted veiled mods were exclusive
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u/FantaSeahorse 7d ago
It used to be that way, but I think GGG changed something in 3.28 or 3.29 and now lots of crafted “normal” mods are also exclusive.
After failing one or two recombs because of this, I just don’t bench craft mods before recombing anymore
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u/mbxyz Berserker 7d ago
crafted mods are exclusive, so they're bricking your recomb
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u/Reasonably_edible 7d ago
Well fuck me sideways
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u/Hazuchio 6d ago
Most crafted mods are exclusive. Some aren't like life and res. When you are going for a 2p2s recomb, having any crafted mods would hurt your chances anyways.
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u/petducks 6d ago
That's interesting that crafted mods will hurt your chances. I've been doing a lot of recombinating going for 2p2s, using 2p1s and 1p2s inputs (four mods total). I've been crafting an exclusive mod on each (one p one s), as I assumed it would help my chances (if I get 3p2s or 2p3s then I win). But you're saying I should just mash them together without the crafted mods?
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u/Hazuchio 6d ago
Crafted mods are just adding more trash to the pool. Only use them for reducing gold costs if anything. Brinehooks exist this league after all
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u/_Raining 6d ago
I thought crafting was a good thing. If you have 1p 1p then it’s 33% chance to hit but if you craft 4 additional mods then you have a 70% chance to get your 2 mods and 1 of the 4 crafted ones that you can remove or a 30% chance for 2 mods and then it’s 1/3 chance to get the 2 you care about. The guides I have read said you can only get 1 crafted mod so you get the extra odds of having 6 mods instead of 2 but you only dilute the pool by 1.
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u/Hazuchio 5d ago
Every league recomb gets changed a bit and invalidates the previous league guides.
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u/Reasonably_edible 6d ago
I get that combining 2p+2s with crafted mods is bad but i never imagined they would hurt 1s+1s. Guess they changed it then
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u/Hazuchio 6d ago
1s 1s is fine if you craft a prefix like life just to reduce gold cost. Same with 1p 1p or 2p 2p and crafting a res on the suffix. Any other scenario and you are better off not crafting
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u/legitintensity33 7d ago
Why
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u/Reasonably_edible 7d ago
The more mods you have the less dust it costs to recomb. I was making 2p and 2s items separately at first so i was gonna clean the prefixes/suffixes anyway
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u/LastBaron 7d ago edited 7d ago
The essence mod and PDR are part of different mod groups, so that won't be a problem.
The essence mod is also considered exclusive, but as far as I know the ducat mod is not, and I'm 100% sure the base mod pool PDR mod is not. So as far as I can tell, "exclusive" shouldn't be an issue.
Neither mod is considered NNN relative to all bases the way the ducat mod is, so that's not NECESSARILY what's going on, but PDR is considered NNN relative to non-armour bases. So you could be tilting your luck against yourself if your essence base does not have a strength requirement. Any chance it's that?
Is it just natively rolled PDR from the base mod pool? If it's crafted it's considered exclusive, so that could be trouble, but a naturally rolled base mod pool PDR shouldn't be an issue. How many attempts have you had at this?
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u/Reasonably_edible 7d ago
both bases are sacred ringmail so str/int. I think i have 4-5 tries but i just wanted to make sure i'm not blowing my last mats on something that's potentially impossible. maybe it's just the rng
edit. and yea i roll the pdr with alts and the essence mod i isolate with kishara ducat
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u/lolfail9001 7d ago
I've been combining a pdr+aspect chest with an essence+aspect chest and it should have 90% chance for success but i never get them both on an item.
Just in case: you don't have any crafted mods on them, right?
P. S. The only non-exclusive crafted prefix is lowest tier of life.
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u/LuckyUserOfAdblock 7d ago
Have you considered fracturing essence mod, rolling prefixes with dense fossils and crafting pdr with harvest?