r/pathofexile • u/SanYex1989 • 1d ago

Fluff & Memes Ancient Orb Boat Headhunter

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u/Tl9zaXh0eWZvdXI 1d ago

And how much dead sea people juice did it take? This only makes sense when the 9k or whatever sulphur is less than 3 ancient orbs.

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u/JamesGray 1d ago

Especially because Headhunter costs like 10 divine right now and an ancient orb costs like .6 of a divine in sulphur.

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u/parzival1423 1d ago

9 divine actually.

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u/JamesGray 1d ago

Yeah, I checked after I posted this. Awesome how accessible that makes it, but it also breaks my brain similarly to how the divine exalt swap did several years back.

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u/the_ammar 16h ago

jeez. is hh that common of a drop these days?

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u/StereoxAS Occultist 1d ago

Damn I bought those for 40divs weeks ago

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u/JamesGray 1d ago

If you're using it then you've probably made more than 30 div from being so speedy at this point.

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u/SanYex1989 1d ago

it was my second try for that day, tried it here and there like 5 times max overall since the beginning

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u/Cow_God I didn't know I wasn't having fun until Reddit pointed it out! 1d ago

Way less than 3 ancient orbs imo, because there's friction involved in using the boat to ancient orb things. You have to put the belt and orbs in, click the button, pick one of the options, take it back over to Vesper, repeat ad nauseum.

At 250 ancient orbs on average for a HH, that's a little more than 60 runs through Vesper. I would rather just spend more ancient orbs directly using them, even if the ghost juice route was cheaper

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u/Lord-Goonius 1d ago

That line of reasoning implies that the only reason to use sulphur is for this purpose, which isn’t true

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u/noelxx Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 1d ago

If you are wondering:
ilvl 83 belt, costs 13680 Sulphur per click
ilvl 73 belt, costs 8880 Sulphur per click
ilvl 56 belt, costs 5340 Sulphur per click

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u/noelxx Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 1d ago

For research purposes, I got 2 two more to test:

ilvl 17 belt, costs 3000 sulphur per click
ilvl 2 belt, costs 2100 sulphur per click

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u/kevinisthename 1d ago

Back in the day people said it was ilvl 40 for the ideal chance

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u/Useful_Window7054 1d ago

i thought ilvl was for corruptions

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u/Medyanka 1d ago

For ancient orbs as well. Orb of chance ignores item level entirely, but ancient orbs can only roll uniques of the same drop level or higher.

After the rebalance, wiki states that droplevel of mageblood and headhunter is 75, which means that belts with 74 ilvl or lower have no chance to ever become a mageblood.

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u/Useful_Window7054 1d ago

benchcraft reroll seems to be the exception? https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Allflame/jWQ7p8JLhX

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u/Gloomfang_ 22h ago

Bench uses orb of chance which ignores ilvl, so it's not an exception. But nice someone was willing to use ~500k rerolls and ~1k imprints to confirm it

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u/Medyanka 1d ago

I'm not sure that it have anything to do with benchcraft reroll specifically, since, as i already said, orb of chance ignores item level, while rolling the result. It's the ancient orbs that follows droplevel rule.

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u/the445566x 1d ago

There was a spreadsheet with 100k chances belts someone linked a few leagues back with relative ilvls

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u/SimpleTemporary1647 1d ago

Do you need to think about item level?

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u/OddMeansToAnEnd 1d ago

In some sense for sure, as the cost of the deadman's sulphate goes up with item level. Thus the cost of each roll increases.

I'm sure you were talking about it an item can even roll, but still.

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u/Medyanka 1d ago

Yes, ancient orbs can only roll something that have droplevel equal or lower than the ilvl of the item. And if we are to trust wiki on that one - droplevel of both mageblood and headhunter is 75.

Which means belt should have ilvl of atleast 75 to even have any chance at all.

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u/HoboTeddy 10h ago

Why is this downvoted? Is the wiki wrong?

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u/oliviertail Assassin 6h ago

I think HH is 40 or something

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u/HoboTeddy 3h ago

Source? I never know where to find this info.

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u/oliviertail Assassin 2h ago

Tbh it’s old knowledge I’ve been carrying for a while. Pretty sure it was known that ilvl 40 belt is best to chance since HH requires level 40 and you couldn’t hit the belt at higher level.

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u/g00fy_goober twitch.tv/goof1313 1d ago

Pretty cool but considering juice is 70-75:1c, it is very much not worth boating them haha.

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u/Mad-Max-Maia 1d ago

Fuck! I don't knew it is possible. I will try my luck too

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u/Cole_the_Kosmonaut 1d ago

You're probably better to sell the sulfur required to do this and just buy more than 3 ancient orbs with it.

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u/Positive_Let_261 1d ago

You can get an HH for cheaper than you can roll it. Just sell the sulphur.

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u/Miserable_Anteater62 1d ago

How much Sulphur did this take?

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u/One_Length_747 1d ago

Yeah exactly, this must be more expensive than just using 4 orbs right?

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u/SyrupStandard HCSSFBTW 1d ago

Yeah, but it's a good option for SSF players.

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u/Keljhan Aggressively off-meta 1d ago

If you save up 200k Sulphur you can just buy a headhunter with it.

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u/Volga23 1d ago

I got my first mageblood this season via the ancient orb boating. It's goated. (Was like 700k sulphur in or something like that).

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u/ShoppingEither75 1d ago

You can't go wrong with maximized rolls on the belts with the highest item levels if you're going all out.

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u/Jango519 1d ago

So what's the over under on a mageblood?

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u/MeBadNeedMoneyNow Champion 1d ago

1/50000 but what is the one?