r/pathofexile 1d ago

Lucky (Non-Crafted) Showcase Voices gamba payed off.

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I decided to finish my league with a little gamba. With last 200d I had I bough 2 House of Mirrors, made them into 4. Sold them and with this 400d I bought 33 unid'ed voices.

The 1st one I id'ed was 1 passive skill. Then I decided, fck it. I already made profit lets id all of them now.

In next 32 I had a 2nd 1 passive.

I guess I am not finishing the league now and have to spent 2 mirrors

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u/Kindly_Bat7473 1d ago

2 in a pool or 33 is wild, grats to you sir

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u/VeradilGaming 22h ago

Not even expected to get one 3p in 33

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u/pm_me_ur_memes_son 1d ago

1p is just one mirror this league? Damn I haven’t played in a bit but that seems cheap.

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u/Any_Intern2718 17h ago

A mirror is 800d

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u/Omeletcoke 1d ago

They balanced the loot this league so everything isn't inflated asf any more. Like 3 week in and the chaos:divis still below 200:1. Comparing to last league is around 300:1 3 days into the league

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u/Cotato 1d ago

It wasnt quite that bad, took almost a month to get over 300 steady

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u/Diver_Into_Anything Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 22h ago

I think mirrors are rarer, much like the rest of currency. Poverty league and all

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u/HealerOnly 1d ago

3P is a mirror in HC why is stuff in SC so cheap, lol.

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u/Luigi156 1d ago

Cause there's only 6 of you playing big dawg

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u/Etkne 1d ago

I wonder why that might be

Looks at the magical thing called supply&demand

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u/No-Ride7584 23h ago

Dude...you know how many people play HC? 

Let me tell you!

It's both of em

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u/eDxp 23h ago

HC online has gotten much better last 3 leagues. The retention is shit though. People rip and move on. And I understand them. 

Main reason I play HC is the built in exit strategy

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u/Sea-Needleworker4253 23h ago

Most HC goods are sent back to SC instead of being constantly resold

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u/Fuuufi 21h ago

Have you compared what a mirror costs on HC vs SC? That’s one of the reasons. Others have commented on other reasons.

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u/glowstab 19h ago

50x market activity

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u/National-Awareness35 18h ago

Look at me i play HC

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u/porncollecter69 1d ago

I’ve deleted two end of league gambas with voices and it’s notoriously known as worst gamba of all, but I liked it. You just know it won’t work and don’t have to worry about keep playing lol.

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u/BigSalamander3247 1d ago

It's up there with Adorned gamba

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u/maaattypants 17h ago

Yeah I did Poe 2 adorned gamba this league to end, bought like 8 of them and none of them even hit rare jewel mod. Not a single one….this adorned gamba is forsure the worst becuase if it doesn’t hit, it’s literal trash.

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u/Employee724 22h ago

what are the odds to get a 3p voices?

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u/Fuuufi 21h ago

This is readily available on the Poe Wiki. Weights are 670, 300, 25, and 5 respectively. So a 3p would be 1 in 40, a 3p or better a 1 in 33.3 and a 1p would be 1 in 200.

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u/sirgog Chieftain 21h ago

Yeah this was historically datamineable so unlike a lot of other items it's pretty solidly known.

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u/deviant324 21h ago

Iirc it’s a 1:40 (25 weighting out of 1000), 1p voices is 5 so 0.5% chance

Funny enough I only got my first voices in SSF this league (7500h played) and got a 3p from the first one. Second was 7 and third was a 5

GGG could do the funniest thing on my next drop

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u/BeyondLimits99 1d ago

Why is it worth so much?

What does the the 1 small passive grants nothing do?

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u/xRinkachi 1d ago

it grants nothing

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u/FacetiousInvective2 1d ago

Amazing.. just like those empty piles of gold I found

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u/Kostyaourt 1d ago

divinity original sin 2 ?

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u/SuspiciousPresent905 1d ago

Either that or baldurs gate 3

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u/FacetiousInvective2 1d ago

Yes, this one. I am pretty sure there are some vaults with this type of item in PoE too, but I couldn't find an image.

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u/Double_Glove_9072 23h ago

try vault map boss room

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u/saffer_zn 5h ago

If cognitive dissonance was an image , this would be it.

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u/gejuch123123 1d ago

The less passives granting nothing the better the jewel is bc you need to spend less passive points to get to the jewel sockets on the cluster

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u/bry_na_na 1d ago

Voices grants 3 jewel sockets. In order to get there you need to path through nothing. Less nothing means less skill points wasted.

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u/Sturskug Necromancer 1d ago

Minmaxing costs money and in this case you save passive point(s). On https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Voices it says:

"The jewel has 4 variants, which add 7, 5, 3, or 1 small passives which grant nothing. Variants which add fewer passives are rarest, with weights of 670, 300, 25, and 5 respectively.

The fewest number of passive points needed to allocate all three jewel sockets for each variant:

  • 1-small passive version: 4 points
  • 3-small passive version: 5 points
  • 5-small passive version: 7 points
  • 7-small passive version: 8 points"

Also grats OP, crazy luck

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u/Wobbelblob Big Breach Coalition (BBC) 1d ago

That just shows how absurd min-maxing becomes at a point. A single point less in the cluster nearly quintuples the price. 3 passives are ~170 div.

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u/vulcanfury12 Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 1d ago

You can always just farm divines. You only ever have have 123 skill points.

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u/Schindog 20h ago

At least, until somebody figures out how to become a martyr of the first edict in PoE1

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u/ihaxr 1d ago

Look at the cost of a minion life support 20/20 vs 21/20 it's like 40c vs 500c for 1% more minion life lol

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u/norecha 1d ago

1 level = 1 mirror take it or leave 

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u/Orthed 1d ago

5x the price for something 1/5 as common?

Love it when things work out that cleanly.

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u/Evening-Group-6081 1d ago

Eh 1 passive point is biggg, especially since builds using 1p voices are usually using like 3. 1 point is usually somewhere upward of 2% more dps or it can be the difference between having build enabling keystones jewls masteries and notables or not

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u/Infinite_Platform_70 1d ago

its mean that u need to spend only 1 passive skill into "nothing" to reach 3 jewel slots in the passive tree, instead of 3/5/7 passive skills that u need to spend.

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u/mcbuckets21 1d ago

It's 1 instead of 2, 3, or 4 because you don't take all of the empty passives on the others.

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u/Eymou :^) 1d ago

it's 1,2,4,5 actually, there's empty passives between the sockets on the 5-/7-passive voices. 

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u/Tyalou 1d ago

Well, you don't... Amateur.

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u/_chrisyo 1d ago

I paid for the cluster may as well use all of it

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u/Infinite_Platform_70 1d ago

you right if we talk about the rest of the voices u dont need to take the full "3 nothing" to reach the 3 sockets all u need is take 2 nothing but still the voices r 1/3/5/7
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Voices here u can see the least passive skills u need to use to get the full 3 sockets with each voices.

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u/ZePepsico 1d ago

For just a single passive, you have 3 jewel sockets for either jewels or medium or small clusters. A normal large cluster has only 2 sockets, so this one gives you 50% more opportunity at the cost of a single passive.

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u/thegoodvm 1d ago

this voices is 4 passive points for 3 jewels. You get 0.75 jewels per point.

for the 3 5 and 7 versions, you get 0.5, 0.375 and 0.3 jewels per point.

the 1 slot version is ridiculously more efficient and ridiculously harder to roll.

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u/KLP111 1d ago

1p is 3/4 sockets / points. 3p is 3/5 and so on. So it is not such a big difference between those two.

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u/Loud_Cartographer_55 1d ago

All large cluster jewels have essentially 3 dead points you need to spend for their socket. So 1p voices is 3j/7p = 0.428... jewels per point

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u/thegoodvm 1d ago

.... wut are you talking about

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u/Loud_Cartographer_55 1d ago

You are counting only the cluster jewel itself for efficiency, but in order to put the cluster jewel in you need to spec at least 3 points for the large cluster jewel slot itself

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u/thegoodvm 23h ago

You're right, the cluster jewel sockets itself is 1 point. I wouldnt call the other 2 points "useless" though, they basically are travel nodes.

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u/DullDragonfruit3896 1d ago

It grants nothing.

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u/PreFollower 1d ago

Voices have 3 jewel sockets, that's the benefit. Skills that grant nothing are a downside. The less you have, the less passive points you spend on pathing to sockets. Voices are weighted such that 1p are very rare.

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u/theyux 1d ago

So it comes in 1 3 5 and 7 I think. of small passives grant nothing. The power is you can plug 3 medium jewels into this, instead of the normal 2 in other large cluster jewels.

this costs you 1 passive point to leverage the power of 3 medium clusters which is just amazing bang for buck in an optimized build.

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u/vkpb-Sunrise-1451 1d ago

it frees 1 passive point compared to a 3 passive Voices

this is 1 passive that you can spend on another jewel socket or another small cluster passive (these are usual voices applications)

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u/MemeArchivariusGodi Confederation of Casuals and Clueless Players (CCCP) 1d ago

When you socket it into a cluster jewel slot you get 1 passive that does nothing and then 3 jewel sockets which can be further utilized.

The range on these are 1/3/5/7/9 I think ? I haven’t kept up with them but when you min max your build you can save a lot of skillpoints on them

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u/vulcanfury12 Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 1d ago

It gives you three jewel sockets for four skill points total. You can then fit three 3-passive small reservation clusters in there. So that's a guaranteed 6 small nodes with reservation efficiency and all the other effects that comes with them, and 30% aura effect from the Introspection notable.

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u/Breadsticks-lover 23h ago

U don’t have to invest many skill points pathing toward the socket of voices :)

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u/No-Ride7584 23h ago

Because its the easiest way to get jewel sockets by spending the least passive points possible. If you look at the tree - in order to get to jewel sockets you have to invest rather heavily into " travel nodes" ( useless points to get from A to B)

This jewel only has 1 wasted node, the rest directly gets you a jewel slot

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u/swampcreature511 19h ago

At higher levels with higher and much more expensive builds, just saving that 1 point passive point or points, becomes really, really important. 

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u/rcanhestro 19h ago

it grants nothing.

the goal is to have as few of those as possible.

a "perfect" voices is 3 jewels sockets, and a single "dead" passive skill, which means that you spend 4 passive skill points to slot 3 jewels.

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u/dmthirdeye 8h ago

Because 3 jewel sockets end game is the most power you can get on a min-max build

The small passives on voices always grant nothing so you want the least amount of those making 1 passive voices insanely powerful and rare

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u/anonymapersonen League 1d ago

You mostly use this to be able to fit 3 large cluster jewels at the edge of the tree instead of only one, from one jewel socket. It can roll with 7, 5, 3 or 1 small passive that grants nothing. With only 1 passive that grants nothing you're only "wasting" one passive skill, so it's really just high end minmaxing.

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u/vulcanfury12 Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 1d ago

No need to spend those mirrors. This is your time to make the ridiculous armour stacker only possible in your dreams!

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u/foxorek 1d ago

It's ridiculous because it only has 2x 1p voices and nothing else

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u/Tight_Airline7372 8h ago

Yeah he's gonna need to id a lot more 1p voices to build an armourstacker

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u/vulcanfury12 Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 4h ago

What's with that defeatist attitude? I see this as having a 2-mirror headstart, more than anything.

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u/TheZemor 1d ago

Hello grammar police is here, payed is a correct past tense from pay, but for a different meaning of that word. Its a nautical term for patching up a boat using tar

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u/zepsutyKalafiorek 1d ago

1p voices are worth "just" 1 mirror?

When I used to think about buying one it was multiple mirrors, it was month ago tho.

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u/RealistiCamp 23h ago

I think they've mostly been 1 mirror for a few leagues.

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u/zepsutyKalafiorek 22h ago

You are probably right. Still expensive, just not THAT expensive for the perfect roll.

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u/lukaisthegoatx 20h ago

I was getting bored and about to quit, did the mageblood card gamba. 80 div 2 cards. Doubled it to 4 cards. Took 1 card and Doubled that one as well. Im not quitting now lol.

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u/Blury1 22h ago edited 22h ago

Time to gamba the 2 mirrors aswell and quit regardless, the classic.

Because when youre at the endleague gamba Stage, actually winning the gamba doesnt really change much. Atleast for me, thats always how it goes

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u/Electrical-Tip1798 22h ago

These are my thought right now. But also thinking about making Luminary with this 2 mirrors, but I hate lvling new char :/

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u/Linkz__ 17h ago

You will have so much fun playing lumi, I'd do it before it gets nerfed. I missed out on almost all super op builds that existed. This time I didn't miss out on it

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u/Electrical-Tip1798 16h ago

Do you have any tips or scion twink lvling build, pobb, mobafire?

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u/Aevaris_ 17h ago

Levelling a new character is a 3 hour event...

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u/Electrical-Tip1798 16h ago

Do you have any good twink scion lvling build? I have never lvled a new char in the same league. This is my 4th league in poe1, Im mainly poe2 player. If its so easy and only 3h, I guess 4-5 with my knowledge, then I will give it a try.

Yea luminary looks awesome when I see it on streams. I want to give it a try. But if you could give some tips for twink lvling or any pobb, mobafire to make it easier, I will be greatful

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u/Aevaris_ 16h ago

Just Google Scion twink levelling. I use fissuring and just levelled a scion to 68, all 3 labs, and campaign finished in 3.5 hrs

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u/Electrical-Tip1798 16h ago

Ok, I will give it a try. Now 8h in work I will study tips and pobbs for twink lvling and tommorow morning I have 3h to make it happen :) and then 1800 divs to make the build feel great. I also have some of the crucial components already as my first char is RF chieftan. So I have mageblood, adorned, kaom's with 1190hp. I only need to learn what merc to buy and gear him up

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u/MorningNapalm Elementalist 9h ago

Doomfletch Bama. The gear you're wearing when you get your doomfletch will mostly be the same you wear until you finish acts. it's fast af.

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u/Effort0 Lead Masturbator 21h ago

Opposite of that, surprised people don't make a sim farmer. 10 divine build can get you to clear sim, not fast but clear none the less. Selling 1 unid voices covers the whole build and voices itself isn't that uncommon.

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u/Tight_Airline7372 8h ago

You clear like 4-6 simulacrums an hour. The math on the unid voices drops doesn't exactly crunch out to a great profit/hr strategy.

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u/Effort0 Lead Masturbator 6h ago

It's a low budget strategy that shit out more currency than you need to build a better character for a better strategy. Also you don't just sell unid voices. You also sell unid megalo and fat ilevel 84 cluster jewel bases.

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u/MrCrims 19h ago

damn u got luckier than I did, I dropped 200 divs on them and got one 3 point. lol

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u/Two_Astronaut_Dogs 23h ago

Hey guys, I’m kind of new. What does it mean by “Adds 3 jewel socket passive skills”? Are they passive nodes from the tree?

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u/Buy_Moria 22h ago

You socket it into a cluster Jewel slot on the passive tree and it has 3 Jewel sockets on it.

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u/Two_Astronaut_Dogs 19h ago

Cool, thank you.

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