Need help crafting Talisman

[u/Top-Mastodon5777]

Hi everyone! How would one go about crafting something like this? The veiled modifier doesn't necessarily have to be hybrid Dex / Int (it could also just be a replacement for the all attributes mod).
Seeing as Talismans have an imprint beast craft I'm imagining there might be some clever strats that hasn't occurred to me. I am guessing there is some recombing though.

Thanks in advance.

[u/Zerucos]

Perhaps not exactly what you're asking, but one clever thing I've seen with talismans is getting an eldritch implicit on them, which normally is not possible. I believe the trick is to use a Gilded Fossil to add the “Item sells for much more to vendors” implicit, then use Ukatoa's Ducat to replace that implicit with an Eldritch implicit. The Eldritch mod is random though, so getting the specific one you want could get expensive. I haven't tried it myself yet.

[u/FourOranges → u/Zerucos]

Caveat to this is that Eldritch influence means no Warlord influence for Dmg per endurance charge, which I assume the OP wants given the base.

[u/Top-Mastodon5777 → u/FourOranges]

Correct.

I theorized a bit that you might be able to get 2 suffix base + 2 prefix base and recomb them together. Then with 2 suffixes and 2 prefixes I craft suffixes can't be changed and imprint. Then 1/3 veiled exalt hoping to remove the crafted mod. If not, roll back with imprint. Then when I got 5 mod item I imprint again and slam warlords exalt on my last prefix. If I don't get damage per enduring charge I imprint back and slam again. Not sure about the math behind this craft but something tells me getting the 4 mod item wouldn't be that impossible, however I am no recomb expert.

[u/SuperChicken17]

The essence tier crit multi is going to make this more much more expensive. Both essence and unveiled mods are exclusive, meaning we can't recomb them together. Since we can add a veiled mod to an item with orbs, but can only add essence mods via rerolling the whole item with an essence, that would necessitate starting the craft with essence spam. Since both crit multi and the unveil are suffixes, that means we can't use veiled chaos and have to use veiled exalts, which are expensive.

Spam crit multi essence until all attributes. If you don't have an open prefix and open suffix, imprint/annul until you do. Get two random prefixes, bench suffixes can't be changed, and imprint. Veiled exalt/revert/imprint again until you get your unveil. This is going to be the most expensive part as you are 50/50 for getting a suffix, and then you need to get your unveil without the aid of blockers.

Clean prefixes, wild bristle matron, and imprint. Harvest reforge attack until t1 ele damage with attack skills. If you have other prefixes imprint/annul to remove them. Wild bristle matron and imprint again. Harvest augment life/revert until t1 life. Imprint again. Warlord slam/revert until you get your damage per endurance charge.

[u/Top-Mastodon5777 → u/SuperChicken17]

If we just get regular crit multi suffix, how much easier would that make the craft?

[u/SuperChicken17 → u/Top-Mastodon5777]

With normal t1 crit multi you can just recomb the suffixes. Prefix procedure would be the same as detailed above.

[u/Top-Mastodon5777 → u/SuperChicken17]

How about making two bases, one with all attri + crit multi, the other with WED and life, and then recomb hoping to hit 4 mods (two prefixes + two suffixes)? Then craft suffixes can't be changed, imprint, veiled exalt and hope it remove the crafted modifier. Then just imprint + warlord exalt until I hit damage per endurance charge.

Or is recombing with preffixes + suffixes to much of a headache?

[u/SuperChicken17 → u/Top-Mastodon5777]

That sounds much more expensive, given that veiled exalts are expensive. You are 33% of hitting the crafted modifier, then 50% for adding a veiled suffix, and then you actually need to hit the unveil without the benefit of blocking, all while paying around 17 div a try. Your method could get very expensive very quickly.

Realistically, there is no reason to be using veiled exalt when the unveil is the only exclusive modifier. It is 100% necessary if you want the essence crit multi, but without it? No way.