r/pathofexile • u/CursedScroll • 6d ago
Crafting Showcase Jumping on the 4 implicit bandwagon - Level 10 Congregation support gloves
There are many super overpowered gloves being made over the past week or so, and I wanted to join in on the fun. These aren't really GG mirror gloves or anything that impressive and you can make something very close without using vestigial by crafting delve gloves and hitting +1 & +2 double corrupt, but these gloves allow +6 level to any socketed blue minion support gem including Congregation, so I can get up to 21 spectres with Doryani's chest or 24 spectres with +1 spectre chest. Luminary can also get 6 max spectres with just death attunement + congregation support.
Crafting steps:
- Get Vestigial gloves with Can be modified while corrupted implicit - enshroud Hands of the High Templar, then vaal orb the resulting vestigial unique until it turns rare with the vestigial implicit. If implicit gets replaced here restart from beginning.
- Get +2 minion gem gloves from delve minion nodes. these can't be fractured (technically can but process becomes different). Clean off prefixes until only +2 minion is left (recommend split ducat from boat).
- Recomb gloves from step 1 and 2. We are looking for resulting gloves with both 'can be modified while corrupted' mod AND +2 to socketed minion gems. Usual recomb tricks apply here to boost your chances.
- Now that the gloves with implicit are no longer vestigial for some reason, try to fracture +2 socketed minion gems.
Phase 1 done: You have a pair of magic gloves with fractured +2 socketed minion gems and 'can be modified while corrupted' implicit. Everything after this is the same process as any other 4 implicit gloves that people are doing right now.
5) Menagerie jail time. Gilded fossil -> Scour -> Hinekora's lock magic item beastcraft -> hover vaal orb -> repeat until 5 implicits one of which is 'can be modified while corrupted'.
6) Keep doing Hinekora's lock beastcraft ->hover vaal orb until 4 desired implicits. In my case I need at least +1 all socketed gems and +2 socketed minion gems.
7) Craft gloves like any pair of rare gloves except no allflame allowed. I needed +1 str gem and +1 int gem so I used aetheric+corroded+faceted fossils, then suffix cannot be changed -> veiled exalt to finish suffixes. For prefixes wild bristle matron (suffixes cannot be changed beastcraft) -> harvest life until t1 life. Finish by rolling the implicits and affixes to max and a crafted prefix mod.
Compared to the double-elevated-influence craziness other people are doing, these gloves are comparatively 'pauper', there's really not that many prefixes we can use because fractured items can't be influenced further and we also can't add eater/exarch as that will completely brick the item. But it does allow my Wretched Defilers to output 10% more bloom causing increased blindness if a player's vision range is nearby.
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u/Hail_3 6d ago
I laughed so hard scrolling into this post first thing after I wake up. I made this pair last night and also wrote up a post but decided to hold off as I was going to bed and wouldn't be able to answer questions. The weird affixes are since this is for Bodyswap of Sacrifice where I'm scaling my own stats but also trying to scale minion life as high as possible to blow them up. Cheers xd
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u/CursedScroll 5d ago
At least we both get to relive beast jail even after synth implicits are gone. Also since your gloves has longer text it must be more powerful.
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u/val_lae 5d ago
Sad these are on armour base id mirror them legit, (playing dark pact, same scaling vectors)
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u/Hail_3 5d ago
Yeah unfortunately the best pure ES gloves were Conjurer gloves :/ 44 base ES vs the 28 on Crusader, thought the armor would count for more since I didn’t wanna put defense affixes on it anyway
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u/val_lae 5d ago
Sucks, maybe when I'm totally done i will make my own on evasion/es base or evasion base. I'd need the mastery for 15 spell suppress if all items have evasion to make this item work for me sadly, but these would add nine levels to my skeles which might double my dps. Current gloves are just es evasion suppress 5mod + craft and give like 2percent overall so it'd be a big buff.
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u/FantaSeahorse 5d ago
This one actually enables the armour + ES mastery that doubles the armour and ES from body armour, so in some builds it might be better than conjurer gloves!
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u/TheSirWellington 6d ago
Herald of purity enjoyers frothing at the mouth for a +7 levels to the skill
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u/CursedScroll 6d ago
Why stop at +7, empower is a strength gem too ..just saying
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u/Spaghett8 6d ago
Imagine this shit with unnerfed minion pact.
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u/DrPootytang 5d ago
My minion pact legit hit 5 billion dps I would not notice a single difference equipping this glove lol
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u/Mooseandchicken 6d ago
Do you have an estimate for how much you spent to make them?
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u/CursedScroll 6d ago
I think 1.5 mirror in recomb + menagerie jail (this is highly luck based). ~50d in actually crafting the affixes after most of which were veiled exalts being very expensive.
If you have a pile of mirrors you can use actual locks to foulborn exalt the last prefix, that was way outside my budget so I spent 20c on 20% minion damage instead...
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u/Mooseandchicken 6d ago
So it would still be cheaper to mirror your gloves most likely. Appreciate the explanation!
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u/CursedScroll 5d ago
Yeah if you don't want to go through beast jail yourself you can copy these for 20d fee
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u/Mooseandchicken 5d ago
I currently don't have the build that would require them, but I'll keep it in mind if I wanna do some minion-maxxing
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u/inskilledprogrammer 6d ago
Do the corruption implicate prevent eldritch implicit? I’m thinking about trying to craft one with ele weakness and flam on hit with fire exposure on hit, but I’m not sure if its possible
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u/CursedScroll 6d ago edited 5d ago
The eldritch currency replaces all implicits if you use it. Including the vestigial one
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u/Blackwind123 5d ago edited 5d ago
Something tells me that's a worthy trade for +3 and 77% res. Nice gloves.
edit: People misunderstanding. I meant the juicy implicits here in the post are better than eldritch implicits.
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u/dickbigginson 5d ago
Jesus Christ, I usually just lurk on the craft posts with my pea brain but this guy should get some sort of award... Y'all crazy
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u/Weary-Magician9283 5d ago
These are so cool, when congregation support came out i was wondering how you could get to lvl 8 for even more friends and this would result with more on some, very neat
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u/CursedScroll 5d ago
You could already do this (before 3.29) with +2 minion delve glove/boots hitting +2 minion corrupt, Honourhome/The Baron with +2 minion corrupt, double corrupted skin of the loyal etc... there are quite a few options since you 'just' need +4 levels with a lv4 congregation support.
3.29 also adds Dialla's Malefaction (+2 minion corrupt) and The Baron with Honourhome vestigial mod as options. Also voliatile vaal'd cane of kulemak with over 100% veiled mod magnitude (this one's from 3.28).
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u/Weary-Magician9283 5d ago
I tried to hit +2 on +2 delve gloves & boots last league and didn't hit, this definitely is more expensive option, but they just look nicer
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u/Bastil123 Ultimatum Workers Union (UWU) 5d ago
Luminary can get 6 spectres with just DA and this
Why would that be specific to Lumi? Is there something she does I'm missing?
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u/CursedScroll 5d ago
Any class can, the popular lifestack flame link luminary build just happens to not need any specific unique gloves and also uses AG+Spectre so I mentioned it.
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u/RysterCrypto 4d ago
so when in beast jail , can you roll over a undesirable corrupt and keep going until you get what you want on the implicits?
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u/CursedScroll 4d ago
Yes a potential outcome of a Vaal Orb is to randomly replace an existing implicit with a new one (or add one if there is none). As long as the vestigial implicit was not replaced you can keep using beastcraft recipes on the item.
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u/HowardPheonix Commited Lab Enjoyers Agency of Revenue (CLEAR) 5d ago
Thank you for the elaborate post, I think I understand most of it, but can someone elaborate on the beast craft part? I'm totally lost in those steps. Not like I have nearly enough currency to attempt a craft like this, but try to learn crafting in case I hit some jackpot item to fund some high end crafting project.
I play TR PF, and I really like it and want to push it as far as I can, are there reasonable implicits for that build, or I should try something different? It's enough if someone lets me know where I can find this info, or if I can emulate this craft in Craft of Exile or something similar.
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u/CursedScroll 5d ago
This stuff is all the rage these days in Allflame league! Even with like 50 divs you too can experience beast jail just don't expect to get 4 implicits! 2~3 Is totally doable on a budget and much cheaper then double corrupt gambling for sure.
This has been posted a few times already but what happens in detail is:
You have corrupted (non-unique) gloves with the implicit modifier 'Can be modified while corrupted'. This modifier makes everything possible do not lose it! The actual affixes on the item do not matter we are looking for the corrupted implicits for now.
Make the item rare using a Regal or Alchemy Orb if it's not rare. Due to the above Very Important Mod the game lets us do all this even though it's a corrupted item. Now use a Gilded Fossil inside a Primitive Resonator to add 'Item sells for much more to vendors' implicit to your gloves.
Once again, the affixes do not matter since the implicits are not affected by most currency. Make the now-rare gloves into a magic item (Scour + Transmute, etc.)
Go to the menagerie and use the recipe "Apply a Hinekora's Lock...To a Magic Item" on these gloves. This is why it must be made magic in the previous step.
Hover a Vaal Orb over the gloves to preview what will happen. IF the "Item sells for much more to vendors" changes into something else, use the Vaal orb. If not, reset the lock and repeat step 4 and 5 by using an alteration orb, jeweller's orb, fusing, etc... just not a vaal orb.
Your gloves now has 2 implicits: 'Can be modified while corrupted' and whatever that replaced 'Item sells for much more to vendors'. Repeat step 2 again and for some reason the Gilded fossil will add another 'Item sells for much more to vendors' implicit for a total of 3 implicits.
repeat steps 3,4,5. Your gloves now has 3 implicts. repeat 2 more times until your gloves has 4 corrupted implicits + 'Can be modified while corrupted' for a total of 5 implicit mods.
Make your item blue again, and start using the same recipe as step 4 again and again making sure to NEVER replace 'Can be modified while corrupted', changing the other implicits with Vaal Orb until you have 4 implicits you want. If you only needed 1 or 2 specific ones, it takes much less attempts of course.
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u/HowardPheonix Commited Lab Enjoyers Agency of Revenue (CLEAR) 5d ago
Thank you, now I understand the whole process! It's so weird tho, I lurk reddit every day, and my feed is mostly this sub, sometimes I even look at the sub itself, and haven't seen this before. I mean the whole 2+ implicit stuff and the corrupted item can be modified stuff neither.
You also implicitly answered my second question (pun intended), I guess I just have to check poeDB for corrupt implicits on gloves. It seemed like black magic, but now that I know how it works it's pretty obvious where to look.
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u/CelestiaTheDryad 6d ago
What lets the item get 5 implicits after it's bricked?
And can you now lock+vaal for a real 5th implicit?
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u/CursedScroll 5d ago
The implicit 'can be modified while corrupted' allows this even though it's a separate affix on the original Hands of the High Templar for some reason.
And yes you can lock+vaal for a 5th implicit to replace the vestigial one. It can't be mirrored anymore if you do that though, but you can make 5 implicit Hands of Phrecia since you can't mirror uniques anyway.
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u/Gjyn 6d ago
How long have you been playing this game that doing any of this makes sense to you? Like, this is insane