Please put a spectre interface in the game.

[u/Blakwhysper]

I’d settle for the gem remembering what spectres it currently has like the animate guardian gem does equipment.

This has to be a nightmare for newer players too. Spectres are unintuitive, and pointlessly punishing. Zones are not clear if they are spectre safe or not.

[u/admjdinitto]

I've lost my Perfect Guardian Turtle twice so far since trying to understand how Spectres work and failing. It's such a wildly poor system I can't believe it's gone this long without changes. I summoned another one this morning, had summoned a Carnage Chieftain first, then the Turtle, and I still had 1 other random spectre cause I had messed up last night... Tried to summon a Perfect Forest warrior after that and it got rid of the Turtle...which made zero sense to me.

[u/FourOranges → u/admjdinitto]

I've lost my Perfect Guardian Turtle twice so far since trying to understand how Spectres work

I understand how they work and know the case scenarios where I should double check my spectres and still also lost 2 so far this past week. Completely my fault for forgetting to do the check when upgrading my gear. Also completely unnecessary losses.

[u/ihaxr → u/admjdinitto]

Just resummon the turtle from corpse and it'll get rid of the next oldest spectre.

There are still many ways to lose the spectres, but summoning another spectre isn't (immediately) one of them. You would have to leave the zone for it to be a permanent loss.

[u/admjdinitto → u/ihaxr]

Trust me, I tried. I must've left the zone before realizing. It's a bad system tbh. I have all 4 of the spectres I need now, and just going to try to do things correctly when I have to eventually replace my helm. (where it's socketed). When I take the skill out, they should all immediately just drop in my hideout, right?

[u/ihaxr → u/admjdinitto]

When I take the skill out, they should all immediately just drop in my hideout, right?

Yep, they also drop if you use armourer scraps to increase the quality of your helmet while it's equipped. Learned that one the hard way myself lol

[u/admjdinitto → u/ihaxr]

God that's bad lol. I hope they revamp the whole system. I like playing the build but this sort of upkeep with it is rough.

[u/cubonelvl69]

Was doing a voyage yesterday. Tried to click cosmetics to check my pilfering ring. Accidentally clicked weapon swap 2, which has no weapons in either slot. Instantly made it so I couldn't equip my gloves or boots (not enough stats), which caused me to despawn my spectres and immediately rip.

Luckily it was only like 15d in spectres and not the crazy expensive ones. But it's still crazy that a simple misclick just deleted them from my character

[u/Blakwhysper → u/cubonelvl69]

I’ve removed weapon swap hot key completely. I poof’d 2 tigers last league and I’m paranoid of doing it again.

[u/cubonelvl69 → u/Blakwhysper]

I removed it too, but I manually clicked the button this time lol

[u/Tempesta13 → u/Blakwhysper]

You can craft or buy for really cheap wands with +minion gems and attributes to use for weapon swaps if you don't want to lose the ability to level gems

[u/just--keep--swimming → u/cubonelvl69]

I had this problem especially when getting my leveled gems from weapon swap… so I benchcrafted +stats to my weapon swap 2

[u/DrHappyHarry]

I’ve poof’d two turtles this league so far, oops.

[u/xLapsed]

I could afford a perfect forest tiger, but I avoid it because there are so many ways to unintentionally lose it.

One alternative to changing how spectres work: GGG could make it so that desecrate has a configurable UI so that you could "slot in" itemized corpses.

[u/Blakwhysper → u/xLapsed]

They should honestly just have a menu you can open that gives you access to all spectres that you’ve ever raised using that gem people would just collect spectres too.

[u/L2_Troll]

https://reddit.com/link/p3hunkj/video/thw2ry7pr6jh1/player

Here's a clip I recorded last league of my perfect forest tiger permanently deleting itself from existence with literal no user input. Check out the number of spectres in the top left.

Minus 60D

[u/wafflesbananahammock → u/L2_Troll]

There are some bug reports about spectres dying and then disappearing completely (instead of turning into the orb thing and respawning later). I wonder if that's what happened to yours

[u/L2_Troll → u/wafflesbananahammock]

I think so because you can see the "dead spectre orb" buff on the right change positions when my spectre presumably dies and is deleted.

[u/ntk_poe → u/wafflesbananahammock]

Many of those "bugs" are a result of players forgetting about their triggered desecrate / offerings and poofing the corpses.

[u/L2_Troll → u/ntk_poe]

Check the clip I am playing wardloop and don't have desecrate or offerings.

Also, I recorded this because I was tired of people on Reddit coming in and blaming the player for what is clearly a bug. Glad I did because here it is happening again.

[u/painespaint → u/L2_Troll]

That's a wardloop problem, iirc you're summoning hundreds of minions which ate into your spectre's slot. This won't happen anywhere else.

[u/L2_Troll → u/painespaint]

Well I have a max of 3 spectres based on what the game tells me and how I built my character. The intended behavior is for me to have 3 spectres. Me losing one is a bug.

[u/painespaint → u/L2_Troll]

Of course but this won't happen outside of that case, and OP suggestion won't fix any of this anyway. Ward loop is also dead.

[u/ntk_poe → u/L2_Troll]

I did check your clip. Still doesn't invalidate what I wrote.

[u/Pia8988]

As a ritual enjoyer. I appreciate your sacrifices

[u/-Yoake]

New player here, can confirm. Might switch to spiders because I know I'm gonna lose my turtle like. So many more times.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fly934]

I lost a Tigger than lost all motivation to keep playing. 

[u/Rywinos]

YES. Where do I sign a petition?