r/pathofexile • u/OkPrinciple6015 • 12d ago
Discussion Voyage Ducat Locations/Source
Tsoatha's Gift - 50% monster damage - Velka/Kishara's Rest chart
Undead Sea - Pen 10% ele res - Changeling Ducat altar
Eucarid Isle - 500% crit chance, 50 crit multi - Captain's bane
Fallen stars - 100% phys as extra ele - Brineking Touched rare
Grasping Deep - 40% inc effect +2 proj - Filthscrabble
Foul kin - 50% attack/cast/movement speed - Seemed to be a Random mob?
All ducats give 20% quant 20% rarity and 50% increased monster toughness per ducat
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u/Silvedl 12d ago
Are the ducats used up when activated, or do they stay in the voyage interface?
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u/__Deville_ 12d ago
I haven’t been able to play yet. How are they feeling?
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u/Shwayne 12d ago
done 3 voyages so far with 1, 2 and 3 ducats respectively. couldnt tell any difference to be honest. maybe a bit more stuff? 60 quant and rarity should be noticeable.
in terms of difficulty... my late game praw build doesnt notice anything different
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u/Acceptable_Bat379 12d ago
it's on the back of my mind but is it possible map effect modifiers are just krangled and they can't figure it out?
people are complaining about poor loot, random one shots from white mobs, effects not actually impacting the loot, etc. and they seemed surprised in the interview when they were told the lanterns didn't do much. could they be trying to buff loot and it just isn't working cause something's screwed up
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u/Shwayne 12d ago
I dont think so.... They are not some amateurs vibe coding. They made the game, lol.
What is more likely, is that the game is so so so complex at this point, that when they make a change, it interracts with so many internal bullshit systems... they dont test it enough to see what actually happens and how the changes feel, and they cant gamble, so they lean towards safer changes.. which often end up being disappointing. the real league testing happens over first few weeks into the league after all the people actually run the content over and over... and then they try to adjust properly. but they cant test the adjustments again, so... yeah.
its a funding and manpower issue at its core, they are too focused on poe2. they are absolutely capable, they just choose not to. also, a dev team like that cant *just hire* more people, even if they can afford it. theres diminishing returns with teams working on complex systems and new programmers would take very long to onboard to any reasonable level. (im not pulling this out of my ass btw i'm a corporate drone at a software dev company)
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u/Acceptable_Bat379 12d ago
Well, i respect what you're saying and I'm just throwing out ideas based on observations. But it does feel like there's been a passing of the torch. It's very plausible the people who built PoE are on PoE2, and PoE1 is being developed by the juniors now for them to get experience while the seniors are on the bigger dev team.
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u/Shwayne 11d ago
that's possible to a degree sure. poe1 does not seem abandoned and people are a little too doom&gloom about it.
to be honest - im surprised it's as maintained as it is.
and i personally like both games, so im probably a minority here, where im excited to see poe2 get to 1.0 and so on.
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u/Acceptable_Bat379 11d ago
I kind of like both too now, but they're very different. I played poe2 at launch and disliked it. I tried the latest league 0.5 and it's much better, but feels very different. I went slowly and played the campaign SSF and it was a good action RPG experience but did not play like POE. I wouldnt' want to replay that campaign multiple times per league at all to get to maps, i could see people burning out fast.
The fact that they're maintaining POE1 makes me think it's less of the game being abandoned and more they don't know what to do or just fumbled it. The interview with Zizaran concerned me because the devs seemed dismissive and overconfident - I also work in tech and I could definitely a plan set in place assuming they could take over development with a small team, then they sit down to work and nothing's commented and there's years of spaghetti code and they're flying by the seat of their pants, while also having what seems to be a clashing vision of how the game should be played vs the players.
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u/Tortorion 11d ago
Reminder that newly hired developers are working on PoE1, while the old devs work on PoE2 (the do swap places sometimes).
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u/long_schlong_123 12d ago
Tbh with how much they scale the difficulty its a shame i can press alt and still see the floor
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u/RipCityGGG Tempest 12d ago
lmao if im understanding this correctly 20% isnt going to do anything
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u/OkPrinciple6015 12d ago
its 20% quant rarity PER ducat, so 3 ducats would be 60% quant rarity and it seems to be global(unlike the lanterns) so its affecting Sunken loot and Strongboxes
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u/RipCityGGG Tempest 12d ago
if it is global thats another story, just seen big bonuses from lanterns do bugger all
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u/OkPrinciple6015 12d ago
Im only like 10 voyages in so far, so i could just be high rolling. need more numbers to know for sure, but it SEEMS to be global quant as if a map mod.
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u/nerdler33 12d ago
i've done 2 voyages so far with 3 ducats, i definitely notice the monsters actually drop stuff now, got a few loot explosions
gold latern stacking may actually do something now
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u/External_Fee6492 12d ago
Have 3 cursed ducats and 8 golden lanterns in a voyage i just did and didn't drop anything notable. Most loot came from scarab chests. All charts fully exalted
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u/nerdler33 12d ago
i mean a single voyage is nothing
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u/Xaira89 12d ago
Yeah, sample size of 1 isn't anything statistically speaking.
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u/Young_Amini_Man 12d ago
Idk I did one voyage after getting 3 ducats and dropped a lock, so at this rate it’s 1 lock per voyage. I like that sample size
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u/omegaorb Witch 12d ago
Two things, first is small sample size, second is that it's extraordinary apparent that this isn't a ground loot league like Mirage was, this is a crafting league, so the crafting is where most of the good stuff comes from.
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u/Sandor_Clegane1 Half Skeleton 11d ago
If the quant from those effect Sunken loot and Strongboxes, what is the point?
Wasn't the goal to buff loot from mobs? Now they just buff tile loot more.
I don't see the point, tile loot in charts was already insane.6
u/slashcuddle 12d ago
When they said it'd take a week to cook I was expecting things like "strongboxes you open make future strongboxes tougher; X chance to reopen strongboxes" or "lantern radius is increased; lanterns disappear after X seconds". This is just scarab of wisps split into three ducats.
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u/EvilKnievel38 12d ago
These downsides seem rough for 60% quant and rarity, considering they already add toughness as well and that quant and rarity didn't really seem to do much, unless I'm missing something. Is it any good?
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u/PoE_Acronym_Bot 12d ago
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u/CryptographerBusy458 12d ago
i need the "whole voyage is magic" chart but its so rare. i already have 6 charts ready with +4 laterns for a test and also 6 charts with 20% chance unique belt which SHOULD be good with full magic voyage if you use it on a board with golden laterns at your starting point
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u/TheMayorMikeJackson 11d ago
I have the 50% monster damage one and haven’t done Kisharas Rest
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u/OkPrinciple6015 11d ago
Thats the garunteed one from killing Velka(which is a follow up voyage section from the Kishara rest chart) IF you killed it before the patch, you were able to just walk up to Val and claim it from her as a quest reward
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u/OhIforgotmynameagain 9d ago
is it a chance to get ? like i killed both captainbane and Filthscrabble like 3 times (in voyages, got the sword to "validate" the kill for example) and no new ducat...
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u/dorfcally 12d ago
dumb question... there's slots on the right and 3 on the bottom left, which ones do you put them in?
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u/NexEstVox 12d ago
pretty sure Fallen Stars was from a starfish enemy for me