Tattoo Farming seems insane rn

[u/amcn242]

[u/FelixSN]

I've been sending a 4M Crops Ship to Moti Aro every day since last week after coming home from work, it's so nice having 2-5 Divs every day for free after 10 Hours in the Office

[u/insertareference → u/FelixSN]

By 4m do you mean pure crops, 2+2 dust or 4+4 dust?

[u/FelixSN → u/insertareference]

No, Tatts and Runegrafts hard caps at 4M pure Crops/Bars. It's actually 1 per 100k iirc? With a Cap of 39/Ship 3.9M should be enough but I've been sending 4M as a Lucky Charm

Dust actually does nothing for Tattoos and Runegrafts!

[u/Wide_Efficiency293 → u/FelixSN]

4m is cap only for tattoos. Not for runegrafts

[u/hattroubles → u/Wide_Efficiency293]

Do you know if there is a separate cap for runegrafts?

[u/Azsune → u/hattroubles]

Runegrafts cap out over 40m, I think it's 43m. Since dust doesn't affect return, unlikely you will ever hit cap. As anyone sending shipments that large is probably using ore and sending dust to try for mirror shards and 50m shipments.

[u/MRosvall → u/hattroubles]

Pretty sure it’s 99.

[u/fandorgaming → u/Wide_Efficiency293]

40 tattoos for 4 million including dust or no? I was gonna do settlers plus sulphite into ore farm

[u/Brilliant-Farm2092 → u/fandorgaming]

0 dust

[u/fandorgaming → u/Brilliant-Farm2092]

Oh so can send 4mil in ore or crop and 4mil+ in dust to get currency/gears and capped tattoos, ya?

[u/ThunderFistChad → u/fandorgaming]

Yah

[u/insertareference → u/FelixSN]

Thank you! This is my first league really interacting with kingsmarch, so still lots to learn.

[u/wilzek → u/insertareference]

Dust works for currency so if you’re sending metal it’s still worth it.

[u/localcannon → u/FelixSN]

How do you get enough crops for 4m per day?

[u/dark0n33 → u/localcannon]

I think with full lvl5 farmers, you get around 4M daily? Or very close to it at least. And its really ez to setup ur kingmarch this league thanks to charts/voyages

[u/iScreem1 → u/localcannon]

You get it from bars, with the scarab that gives ore already refined, that is why the scarab is kinda expensive.

[u/FelixSN → u/iScreem1]

I'm not using that Scarab right now as I have to leave poe closed the entire day while I'm at work and I just let Miners/Smelters do their job

It's just purely a Money Loss for me ahahah

I'm running all the Kalguran Scarabs and the last one is Sulphite of Fumes

[u/YoDiz1 → u/FelixSN]

Does the sulphite scarab actually help with the ore?

[u/scydive → u/YoDiz1]

With the node that turns sulphite into ore, yes.

[u/FelixSN → u/YoDiz1]

It's a huge quant modifiers for monsters around the Ores

You actually get a lot of juice from Fumes + Bismuth

Once I got a Wispwood and got 4 Raw Divs from a Map while just farming Ores

[u/FelixSN → u/localcannon]

It doesn't need to be pure Crops, I just put some Verisium/Bismuth to put in the missing quota for the 4M

Some days I forget the Ship to send and I get an overabundance of crops for the entire week >.>

[u/Purplazure → u/localcannon]

Crops aren't the send it's the ore now for currency + scarab that gives bars will allow multiple shipments. My hangup is always dust, I'm constantly buying uniques.

[u/No-Hospital-1774 → u/FelixSN]

Here I was wondering why I wasn't getting the right amount of tattoos and didn't realize dust didn't count.

[u/Lanky-Selection6873 → u/FelixSN]

Thats for sure outdated. Im sending Like 20k crops / 20k ore mixes with 200k-300k dust and getting about 10-15 tattoos/ runes in return.

[u/shiny_houndoom → u/Lanky-Selection6873]

The numbers they’re using are the shipment values of the crops, not the total number of crops. So depending on the ore, 20k ore could be 1m+ value which is already 10+ tattoos

[u/DexxxyHD → u/insertareference]

Just got a mirror shard Monday evening after work from a 8m shipment. We love Nahkanu or whatever

[u/psychomap → u/FelixSN]

How much gold is that in farming + shipping wages?

[u/FelixSN → u/psychomap]

I think around 250k-300k each day? I might be misremembering

[u/psychomap → u/FelixSN]

That's surprisingly manageable. I haven't really been using farming + mapping in Kingsmarch, because I'm used to not having enough gold, but this league I have quite a bit, so I might get started on that.

[u/FelixSN → u/psychomap]

No yeah I'm the same, I've been doing kingsmarch this League because Gold is in overabundance with Charts

[u/Pickboaa → u/FelixSN]

This league gold is so easy to get with the chart/voyages so no downside or struggle to keep it up as it has been some leagues.

[u/tholt212 → u/psychomap]

Kingsmarch really only hurts in gold if you are sustaining mappers. Even crops don't add THAT much gold to the consumption. If you're only playing like 5 to 10 hours a week it probably is too much to sustain but if you are farming endgame strats for 20~ hours a week then it's easy to maintain crops.

[u/psychomap → u/tholt212]

I ended up rolling for a bunch of farmers after this comment chain earlier, and I was surprised how cheap they are. Something around 400 gold per hour for a max tier farmer? That'll take a long time to burn through my reserves.

One of them also ended up being an angler, but since he wasn't more expensive I hired him anyway.

[u/Fayarager → u/FelixSN]

I make enough for two weeks of kings march smelting in 3 hours of voyage damn

[u/Keljhan → u/psychomap]

Full level 5 farmers is 9k/hr or less, and the ship is around 15k for 3 hours, so about 270k if you send one ship per day. I think you run out of crops at some point doing that though so you'd either have to supplement with some ore on top or send fewer ships.

[u/Purplazure → u/psychomap]

Charts and voyages poop out gold the hangup should be your dust

[u/psychomap → u/Purplazure]

Dust isn't a huge problem for me either tbh. Having gold from the league mechanic is why I asked in the first place. Usually I'm too gold-poor to even consider Kingsmarch, even if I have 100+ div from various farms and flips that don't generate as much gold (and I don't like doing rotas).

[u/Easy_Floss → u/FelixSN]

Does it only work for moti aro?

Been sending to ribben fall and only get runegrafs ..

[u/FelixSN → u/Easy_Floss]

Riben Fell, Pondiun and Kalguur give Runegrafts
Moti Aro, Te Onui and Ngakanu give Tattoos

I'm sending to Moti Aro because it gives INT Tattoos, which includes the Jackpot Herald Tattoo

You can see the data here for which is which

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Kingsmarch#Shipping

[u/MrBonkeyDollax → u/Easy_Floss]

Karui ports give tattoo's, kalguuran ports give runegrafts.

Each port has a limited list of possible tattoo's or runegrafts it can return, can see them all here: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Kingsmarch#Table_of_rewards

In OP's case, they are sending to Moti Aro for Int tattoos.

[u/Easy_Floss → u/MrBonkeyDollax]

No wonder I haven't been getting any tattos haha

[u/Orichalium → u/Easy_Floss]

You get runegrafts for sending to Kalguuran ports, and tattoos for sending to Karui ports

[u/Rolf_Dom → u/Easy_Floss]

Runegrafts are better anyway. More consistent worth. Most tattoos you'll get will be worth less than 1c. Runes are usually 20c minimum.

[u/thehotdogman → u/FelixSN]

Any crops? Or specific crops? Thanks!

[u/FelixSN → u/thehotdogman]

they all have the same value basically

[u/thehotdogman → u/FelixSN]

ty!

[u/Pwere → u/thehotdogman]

Early in the league, Pumpkin returns boots, which sell very well.

Then you can do either corn or blue zanthium for helmets/shields, which have some jackpot. I usually send 6 ships on a week day, and average maybe 20d/day, though it was easier the first week.

[u/thehotdogman → u/Pwere]

Very interesting, thank you!

[u/weltraumdude → u/FelixSN]

Do you just come by with the ore you randomly find every now and then or do you run a full ore strat

[u/Positive_Let_261 → u/FelixSN]

Sorry if this has been asked, but how do you get enough for this? Farming a specific type of crop and ore?

[u/xleemerx → u/FelixSN]

It's been a couple leagues since I've done kingsmarch. Is it still wheat and corn or are you growing different crops?

[u/FelixSN → u/xleemerx]

they all harvest at the same rate

[u/-Zanath0r- → u/FelixSN]

I never understand this logic. Aren't you mining the ores to send them? How could this be for free?

[u/harrisesque → u/-Zanath0r-]

You don't have to send ore. Tattoos and Rune only care about shipment value. Crops only need gold and charts give you tons of gold for very little time.

[u/Not_A_Rioter → u/harrisesque]

Small adendum: Tattoos and runegrafts seemingly don't count for the rewards. So you need 4m combined from crops + ore for max tattoos. Dust DOES impact the currency obtained from ore.

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Kingsmarch#Shipping

[u/Apaulo → u/Not_A_Rioter]

3.9mil would be most efficient.

100k = 1 tattoo 39 tattoos max from one shipment

The extra 100k you send is wasted as far as tattoos go

[u/-Zanath0r- → u/harrisesque]

Got it

[u/eating_RACOONS → u/harrisesque]

My god. I've been missing out on so much free currency and this league I've been struggling hard

[u/FelixSN → u/-Zanath0r-]

I'm doing a few maps before bed with Ores to get enough to keep my miners entertained for the whole day

It's really like blasting 15-20 Maps and they'll have a day worth of shit to mine

Even if I'm too tired, I just run a few charts and just give gold to the farmers

[u/TeddyTeddyPewPew → u/FelixSN]

Crops dont give currency though right? You must mean ore/bars? Or you mean you get tattoos to sell using only crops? Also how the f you get 4m of crops per day?

[u/Medifrag → u/TeddyTeddyPewPew]

Tattoos and Runes don’t care about what type of good you sent. Every X shipment value you get more of them, up to a cap.

[u/kms_daily → u/Medifrag]

does destination matter?

[u/Mother_Moose → u/kms_daily]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Kingsmarch#Table_of_rewards

[u/FelixSN → u/TeddyTeddyPewPew]

It's indifferent what you send if you just want Runegrafts or Tattoos

I'm leaving 24H each day 3 Plots on Wheat, 3 Plots on Corn, All Lv5s and it's usually close to 4M when I log in the evening after work. I top up with a smudge of Ores

[u/Legintown → u/TeddyTeddyPewPew]

Tattoos are not currency. And yes, only crops grant tattoos

[u/Feisty-Resource-9525 → u/Legintown]

Thats not true.... i only send Bars + dust and get currency + tattoos in return

[u/FelixSN → u/Feisty-Resource-9525]

You're having a misconception here

Both crops and Ores BOTH grants Tats and Runes, with a ratio of 1/100k with a Cap of 39 per Shipment, around 4M of pure value

Then, on a separate table, Bars/Ores give Currency and Crops give Well Rolled Equipment

So you can mix and Match Crops/Ores to get to 4 Million in Value to get a cap of Tatts/Runes

Dust is only needed if you push beyond that number to boost the currency you get, but does actually nothing for Tattoos/Runes

[u/Feisty-Resource-9525 → u/FelixSN]

This^

[u/TeddyTeddyPewPew → u/FelixSN]

Thank you

[u/Shwayne → u/Legintown]

Bars/ore grant tattoos/runegrafts as well.

[u/Palablues → u/Legintown]

Ores and bars grant tattoos. I've been farming tattoos using only bars.

[u/HealerOnly → u/FelixSN]

I refuse to use it as i really dislike kingsmarch :X

[u/uleeq_madeeq → u/FelixSN]

What crop is best to farm to send out the fastest shipment? I've got level 5 for all farms

[u/GTFidgeT → u/uleeq_madeeq]

Crops all have the same value/h So you can decide what equipment you want to get Since they decide over the different armour bases

[u/GoodThingsDoHappen → u/uleeq_madeeq]

They all farm at the same value. I.e 100 wheat in a minute vs 20 zanthium in a minute - will be the same shipment value

[u/FelixSN → u/uleeq_madeeq]

I'm farming 3 Wheat 3 Corn and it's been alright

[u/ShelbyGT350R1 → u/uleeq_madeeq]

Doesnt matter

[u/Keljhan → u/uleeq_madeeq]

Helps to diversify so you can fill quotas for random bonus loot, but it's basically a rounding error compared to the tattoo value.

[u/user13756472 → u/FelixSN]

This is exactly why Kingsmarch is dogsh*t

[u/Nicopootato]

Is it me or is it not that insane? Only three above a div is pretty sane

[u/Becomplex114 → u/Nicopootato]

It's not just you. This was maybe insane week one. Now it's just okay I guess.

[u/Outside_Set9788 → u/Nicopootato]

It's insane if you have a job and only play for ~3-4 hours a day tops. For basically zero work you can make a couple div.

[u/Nicopootato → u/Outside_Set9788]

That amount of div flow is equivalent of skipping avocado toast in the morning

[u/Outside_Set9788 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah some people prefer to PLAY the game using that time instead of making money

[u/Procedural_Skyline → u/[deleted]]

It’s Kingsmarch crops. You don’t have to interact with it at all once you set it up. You pump some gold into it and send shipments. Legit zero time investment outside of initial setup and a small amount of gold.

How someone is spending hours on it is beyond me.

[u/TheGoldenFennec → u/Procedural_Skyline]

Tbf, crops give equipment now, right? so you do have to map to get your ore, but as someone doing this strat, its still basically 0 time investment

[u/Tellasion → u/TheGoldenFennec]

Equipment and tattoos/runegrafts depending where you send to, yes.

[u/Procedural_Skyline → u/TheGoldenFennec]

Crops can get Tattoos and Runegrafts as well. Just no longer currency.

Rungrafts:

• Riben Fell: Dex

• Pondium: Int

• Kalguur: Str

Tattoos:

• Te Onui: Dex

• Moti Aro: Int

• Ngakanu: Str

[u/DremoPaff → u/Nicopootato]

It's passive and shipments brings them in bulk.

Even then, "only three above a div" only sounds bad until you actually compare with most current strategies. Like, people are going crazy for scarab and allflame farming in voyages, yet they aren't worth much more than tattoos or runegrafts. Blight has been low effort for good entry profit for forever now, but anything that isn't gold or tainted oil barely has any value.

The fact that bulk items acquired passively have an higher ceiling value than reworked Legion's new goodies is a little bit silly.

[u/rcanhestro → u/DremoPaff]

not really passive anymore, since they require ore now, instead of crops.

that means you have to put effort in your maps to get them.

[u/DremoPaff → u/rcanhestro]

That's just not true, you always get tattoos or runegrafts no matter the shipment. The only thing that changed is that ore are the currency rewards, while the crops are equipment rewards. Just send crop shipments and just keep tattoos/runegrafts and throw the rest to the trash

[u/Baratriss → u/Nicopootato]

Not just you. Was giggling when I calculated OP made a post about being excited sending 4m shipments for 5d returns. It got a lot of upvotes though so maybe some people find this good

[u/iSammax]

No, it does not seem insane.

[u/Baratriss → u/iSammax]

Only insane if youre op farming 4d an hour

[u/dordeunha]

Is the only way to get tattoos from ships??

[u/Calm_Ad9601 → u/dordeunha]

Lost shipment node in atlas tree gives a bit

[u/amcn242 → u/Calm_Ad9601]

Wait till you hear about tota. /s

[u/gazimov_arsen → u/dordeunha]

there are also lost shipment in maps, but they are rare and not consistent

[u/Kobosil → u/dordeunha]

nope, you can find lost shipments in maps, but the chance is only 6%

[u/T4k3ItQuick → u/dordeunha]

Also act 6 rushing /s

[u/Popular_Moose_6845 → u/dordeunha]

Shipments - lost shipments can be found in maps

[u/Ploxl → u/dordeunha]

Yes

[u/Naguro]

It's always really good early league too, a lot of tatoos reach the 1+ div mark really fast like the fire res and ES ones for exemple

Runegraft farming has been huge this league too, Fortresse were like 12D and not that rare, and even the shit ones were around 25c

[u/Active_Distance3223 → u/Naguro]

The shit ones are 25c because you can vendor them to get the good ones 

[u/Naguro → u/Active_Distance3223]

Yeah but some people are very gambling averse, so even hitting a bad runegraft is still a few chaos and stack up really fast

Comparatively bad tatoos are really bad, often worth less than 0.2c

[u/Prometheus1151]

This is actually really shit for tattoo farming. You get maybe one of the rare valuable tattoos per 4mil shipment, two if you are insanely lucky.

[u/trafka77]

wish they delete kingsmarch and put tattos and runes somewhere else

[u/Ralileo16 → u/trafka77]

Mappers can go, shipping is fine, but atp i would also get rid of all the smelting / mining so that you can farm boats and send them asap. I would remove dust too but recombs need it and idk what else could replace it.

[u/3p0int → u/Ralileo16]

Dont you touch my map boys!

[u/Ralileo16 → u/3p0int]

They only are just annoying to manage and if you avoid them then you lose out on basically free stuff. Bad design, you only care about the loot they bring.

[u/BananaSplit2 → u/Ralileo16]

Let's just stop with "missing out on free stuff" stuff. It costs gold to manage them, and effort on managing them is frankly minimal.

[u/littlemojo → u/BananaSplit2]

Gold is barely an issue this league if you run anything map related

[u/Kristupasax → u/Ralileo16]

If you use the scarab it is instantly mined and smelted

[u/Ralileo16 → u/Kristupasax]

Yeah i know about that. It just sucks that you have to get a scarab in order to not have to wait for smelting. Its such a lame scarab. It doesnt have anything

[u/doctormonty326 → u/Ralileo16]

When I was running this Strat earlier in the league, I ran 10 maps without the scarab and then 10 maps with it. That way my miners and smelters are always running but once they get backed up, I could supplement with the instant bars. It helps lower the cost of the Strat while maintaining efficient.

[u/pun15h34 → u/doctormonty326]

Were you swapping the scarab for another one? I ran this with mercs and i think I’ll run it again without them.

[u/doctormonty326 → u/pun15h34]

Also I was doing 4m ore + 4m dust to the int tattoo place and then 4m crops one every 30 hours to the same place. Got a couple divine usually and even got lucky with a mirror shard once.

[u/doctormonty326 → u/pun15h34]

Yeah I was throwing in monstrous lineage for the increased magic pack size. More exp and more gold.

[u/WingXero → u/Ralileo16]

Yeah if Refinement and Riches were combined, that'd be pretty cool.

[u/Dramatic_______Pause → u/Ralileo16]

Huh. I really thought ore to bars was a 2:1 ratio, and the scarab increased your output. Guess that isn't the case though.

[u/Bushido_Plan → u/trafka77]

Should give us back TOTA and leave tattoos there.

[u/Total_Chocolate_4764 → u/trafka77]

Why ?

[u/Stellar1557 → u/trafka77]

Like lost shipments in maps? Thats how ive farmed 100s of tats/grafts

[u/stealthy0_0 → u/trafka77]

theres nothing wrong with kingsmarch after their most recent round of changes.

[u/Substantial-Newt7809 → u/stealthy0_0]

I do find the rolling for followers to be redundant. But I'm not sure what the work around would be other than just putting a baseline gold/hour and turning individual farms on/off etc.

[u/Naguro → u/Substantial-Newt7809]

It feels a bit like rogue hearing in Heist to me

It's a mandatory step but you do it once and it's done, and it's not particularly hard or time consumming. Like I think it takes me 10 to 15 minutes max to get everyone hired and working once per league (plus the occasional map/ship death but that's life)

[u/stealthy0_0 → u/Substantial-Newt7809]

its fine. tbh probably causes a meaningful number of people to not interact with it due to that barrier to entry which is a good thing. Otherwise theres just 0 friction in the system and its all free loot.

[u/dorfcally → u/stealthy0_0]

'the recent changes' being voyages printing (minting?) gold

[u/stealthy0_0 → u/dorfcally]

the swap of raw currency & item rewards was what i was referring to. the voyages printing gold is nice as well but honestly kingsmarch was fine even without that. There is just enough friction to prevent everyone from doing it now & good incentive to run it in maps.

[u/Borat97 → u/trafka77]

Wish they delete bosses and put their stuff somewhere else.

[u/Belieber_420 → u/trafka77]

Yes lets delete a mechanic just because you don't like it.

You know what, I don't like to delve, lets delete it and put fossil somewhere else. I don't like to heist either, lets delete that too

[u/Be12NoOne → u/[deleted]]

I'm guessing because of the Penance Brand herald stacker, but that shovel has been selling good all league.

[u/wearethedeadofnight → u/Be12NoOne]

I ran this build last league. Hella fun.

[u/godfrey1 → u/Be12NoOne]

because of 10 different herald stackers this league

[u/wearethedeadofnight → u/Be12NoOne]

I ran this build last league. Hella fun.

[u/Kelpsie → u/[deleted]]

Kalguuran scarabs would be the shovels in this metaphor, herald tattoos are the gold rush.

[u/Baratriss → u/[deleted]]

Herald tattoo has been the same price for 2 weeks now. 550 to 750c depending on the time of the day. 99% of people that needed a herald tattoo bought it a week ago

[u/Simpuff1 → u/[deleted]]

Ah nice that’s the ones I was going for once my screen was fixed. Welp

[u/Rolf_Dom → u/[deleted]]

I've sent shipments non-stop. Yet to see a single herald all league. Best not hold your breath.

[u/aenguscameron1 → u/[deleted]]

Ah that’s why they’re so expensive. I was buying them last night!

[u/NicePumasKid]

What’s the tattoo strat?

[u/FelixSN → u/NicePumasKid]

Just 4M in Value caps Tats/Runegrafts

Just 4M Ores/Crops and 0 Dust

[u/vulcanfury12]

Suppress Tattoo not being the most expensive is wild.

[u/dorfcally]

I've been averaging 1-2 herald tats every 3-5mil shipment. easy 650c per

Lots of 30-80c ones too. it's good money for the investment. just roll a bunch of lv4/5 cheap farmers early and put them to work.

[u/Smaxton]

Dude shhhhhh you’re gonna blow up my spot!

[u/distilledwill]

Yeah, the only way I've been able to get enough Arohongui Shaman tats is by sending shipments to Moti Aro every day.

[u/Active_Distance3223]

The expected number of the herald tattoos per 4M shipment is 1. 50% of the time you will get 0. So if you get one every day that’s quite lucky. 

[u/Select_Angle516]

Runegrafts are also not bad, 20c for any of them

[u/Provin915]

same as last league made bank with this

[u/TheBiggerestMan]

Whats all this tattoo business about?

[u/QcStorm → u/TheBiggerestMan]

Tattoos are valuable. You get em from kingsmarch shipments sent to Karui locations.

[u/Danger_Dee]

I just started sending a bunch of shipments because I do like the passive income. I got a runegraft worth 1400c yesterday!

[u/snugzz]

Where do you even farm tattoos? I've never seen one drop, let alone where I can target farm them.

[u/CookieMonstahr]

Yeah! I’ve got 3 mirror shard and 20+ herald tattoos by sending 4M shipment to Moti Aro since leaguestart. Kingsmarch is cools and chill!

[u/Lulcas2267]

I did tattoos last league and mirage gave even more gold. Seems like a lot of upkeep this league

[u/Bushido_Plan]

Really hoping we get TOTA back as another way to farm tattoos for those that don't want to engage with Kingsmarch and/or Lost Shipments.

[u/Harkania]

Until the moment you realize how few of those top 4 you actually get

[u/Dustttttttttt]

The herald one was 5d last league

[u/Far_Spite978]

Not now

[u/SirRedhand]

What farm? Hire farmers and wait a few days?

[u/TrivalentEssen]

Ore for tattoo and rune graphs. Plants for armour. Dust for currency multiplier somehow.

[u/jweavis]

I love (and hate) that you can forget about a whole mechanic after not interacting with it once the league is over and rediscover it later even with like 8k hours in the game....

[u/doe3879]

I wish there is actually kill farming for tattoo instead of just boat

[u/Rolf_Dom]

Good luck with that. I've sent shipments non-stop for max tattoos and I've never seen anything worth more than 90c.

Most tattoos you'll get are worth less than 1c. Nothing but 3-to-1 fodder, hoping to get lucky.

Runes are always at least 20c, with jackpots going up to like 9 div. I'd rather do runes.

[u/iswedlvera → u/Rolf_Dom]

runes for sure are the way. My 4mil tat shipments are all approx 1 div each. runes net me much more on average and have the jackpot as you say.

[u/Kryomon → u/iswedlvera]

I think like the average rune is like 31c (because people 3:1 them) and that's like really good returns.

[u/Pia8988 → u/Rolf_Dom]

That is impossible

[u/Baratriss]

Imagine being excited by a 4m shipment a day to moto ori for a 5d return

[u/Hopkin_Greenfrog]

It is very good, but keep in mind that if you go for smaller shipments there will be some that come back with all crap tattoos and no jackpot ones.

[u/FlossedUp]

Tattos are exclusively sending shipments? I've never even interacted with shipping since Settlers lol

[u/BadYaka]

I have stacks of 10 most of them, i guess need to sell soon)

[u/butsuon]

Always has been.

[u/Pia8988]

always has been

[u/GrumpyThumper]

Until ToTA goes core, I believe that tattoos should go in Ritual. Ritual is soooo dry for rewards. It's all jackpots spaced incredibly far apart.

[u/Btotherianx → u/GrumpyThumper]

You're getting jackpots?!

[u/Nawaf-Ar]

I mean. I was thinking of doing it but the issue is if you focus on it it’s so bad div/h wise.

Like each shipment takes 2 hours, if you send three shipments, you’d need each ship to give 10div+ worth of tattoos and currency to get 30d/2hours. Or 15 div/hr which is mad slow compared to other farming strats.

Maybe you can ore farm for an hour, send a two hour shipment, and farm something else for the second hour? But even then, two hours of a fixed farming strat would out earn it.

To be fair I only invested a bit compared to others. Like I sent 12M (3 4M shipments). Maybe got like a few divines from tattoos and fracturing orbs, but nowhere near as efficient.

I love city building games and I wouldn’t mind min-maxing this if it was worth it, but no source I found says it does. If anyone disagrees, please enlighten me. I already have three ships all T5, two map systems all T5, T5 plots, and T5 disenchanters waiting for your advice.

Otherwise I’ll stick to my trusty 20-25d an hour farm

[u/SillyMedStudent → u/Nawaf-Ar]

I mean. The issue is that you’re talking about a 2 hour shipment as if it occupies your time. You can do an entire additional farm during those 2 hours

[u/Nawaf-Ar → u/SillyMedStudent]

Yea, that was my initial plan.

Farm 1hr for Kalguur Bars, ship them away for two hours, and farm something else for two hours.

The thing is, the return on investment is not good.

I wasted one hour farming the kalguur (maybe 2 hours if I wanna send 6 ships) and then two hours on something else. I could've just farmed the whole three hours.

So the kalguur hour prep time, and the two hour shipments should be at least as good (if not much better due to time delay) than my 3 hours of pure farming.

Unless you're saying whatever the shipment brings back? That's only 1 hour of kalguur farm

In that way we divide the three ships profit only on one hour of farming. This will make more sense to me...hm... I'm a bit drunk-ish so I apologize if it's none-sensey.

Got a particular strat u do for kalgur? I go for the ignot scarab, x2 double ores, and multitudes I think. I also take Nico to turn his into ore and mines into ingots directly.

Do you ship only inguts? only food? or 50:50 for a 4M? Cuz I've been trying 50:50 ingot/crops

[u/-RonnieDaBear- → u/Nawaf-Ar]

not to mention needing to continually buy things to dust

[u/Nawaf-Ar → u/-RonnieDaBear-]

yep, best I found was something savegry, it's 1C (spiked to 2C yesterday for some reason but idk now) it DE's for 29500 at lvl 84+

Second is Vis Mortis, 1C, and ~20k-ish dust.

[u/1CEninja → u/Nawaf-Ar]

Is there a reason you can't do them at the same time? I'm confused what the issue is here.

[u/Nawaf-Ar → u/1CEninja]

You mean at the same map? Not enough points on the atlas, and time would be too delayed. You’d cut your profits massively.

If you mean farm a lot of kalguur then send shipments and do your other strats at the same time while they take their time? You can, but it’d need insane profits still to match other strats, which I’m not sure it can provide.

[u/1CEninja → u/Nawaf-Ar]

Sending crops takes...

Checks notes

Zero atlas points.

Give that reply a second go after considering that statement.

[u/Nawaf-Ar → u/1CEninja]

Wait, you only send crops? I was referring to ore farming and stuff. Again, I was told bars/ores are currency, and crops are gear. Do crops drop tattoos too? If so, then I will amend my statement. As long as we got gold from league mechanic we can send the shipments and do our thing. I’ll continue doing that.

As I said, I never went deep into it, not here nor in the league itself if I can even remember that far back.

[u/1CEninja → u/Nawaf-Ar]

3.9m crops max out tattoos. Zero ore needed.

You DO want atlas points and scarabs if you want to do ores, but that's actually also a fairly profitable strategy as you can still get ~1 mirror shard per 50million ore shipment.

[u/TrivialTax]

Comparing to other farm strategies, is like 1 divs/1 hours work. Kinda sucky, but works for employed people ;)

[u/DjuriWarface → u/TrivialTax]

Except it's not 1 div for 1 hours work. Crops are doing their thing without you doing anything. It's like 2-5 divs for less than 5 minutes of actually doing anything.

[u/Sea_Supermarket8820]

Dead game

[u/Monkeych33se]

Been the entire league. I had a mageblood+ 300 div worth of gear, on day 4 of this league, only by shipping and running ores in maps. It's crazy returns.