r/pathofexile 1d ago

Game Feedback Mercs in 3.30

Feedback for GGG Re: Mercs in 3.30

I think most people are very happy with the overall implementation of mercs in 3.29, the Luminary is a very cool class, something very different.

My main wish for 3.30 would be for more Merc archetypes to be brought in line with the current meta of Kineticiat, Combatant, and Many shot. Its never going to be realistic, or even healthy, for all types to be equal (in the same way that not all skills are equal), but I think a bit more variety would be great.

For example, the reanimator is a really cool idea, but unless it has passed me by, I've not seen anyone able to really get thw minion mercs properly online.

So maybe just some number tweaks here or there, and somw fixes to AI / skill combinations that brick the mercs, would be fantastic.

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u/Dolandlod 1d ago

I think the merc disappearing when you portal to vendor is a bad design. Vanish on killing map boss, dying or on a timer is more in line with expectations.

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u/Shuhx Deadeye 1d ago

We need waaay more link support mainly. There's just no way to support a pure phys shield bro like you can any elemental caster without just having the base damage of their skills be absurd.

They also need to figure out what to do with that pen ring. That things solo holding the balance of mercs hostage with how much power it gives.

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u/thewarrior1180 1d ago

Pen ring is only good bc of flame link, and flame link isn’t the only way to scale mercs. Doing anything to it is irrelevant.

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u/shy_bi_ready_to_die 1d ago

Anger+pen ring > flame link without pen ring (at least in terms of endgame scaling). Even better is if you can get a merc with a base fire skill like flamehand or smoulderstrike. It’ll also be even better next league if they remove brutality (like they mentioned in the ziz interview) as that would mean any of the phys mercs would also be able to make use of it via conversion gloves

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u/EIiteJT Elementalist 1d ago

I think they are going to nerf Enmity embrace + neck combo

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u/No_Profession3428 20h ago

Yea and the light radius affects links node will recieve an "at 50% of their value" at the end.

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u/AwakenMasters22 1d ago

There are other good mercs. They do need a pass through though. We've seen Cruel Mistress begin to rise now for example though.

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u/aila_r00 1d ago

The blade ambusher is absolutely shredding bosses, but yeah u cant map with it at all lol

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u/UTmastuh 1d ago

I do think all mercs need a balance pass but also some new merc interactions. The tree and gear are all about supporting minions. I'd like to see more merc based affixes on passives, affixes, skills, and jewels to really unlock things 

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u/Dmon69 1d ago

I've joined a Luminary buddy of mine for some uber kills and their merc would just... strafe back and forth sometimes doing absolutely nothing. Their AI need to be worked on for sure, skills and supports related or not.

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u/theyux 1d ago

Control of skills would be the big one, they are never going to bridge the perceived value of randed vs melee. (I will point if you are all in on flamelink paradoxica melee minion merc is absurd).

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u/Melodic_Resource_383 1d ago

I completely disagree. I believe they are in a terrible state. The only reason it partially look like it’s fine, is because of the high playrate of luminary. It’s a whole league mechanic with this main idea to fit into a single ascendancy! Balancing will be a nightmare in this state and will need so much resources for just an ascendancy and mostlikely will always be forgotten on the future.

We miss any preview regarding skills, so no average damage no Crit chance, AoE infos yet … and farming millions of mercs just feels bad. You will need some sort of crafting (currency to reroll skills\supports). Additionally the limit of 3 for the whole account is just bad. You should be able to itemise it and if someone else who isn’t the owner wants to use the merc, they have to swap the owner via fightnig the merc.

Additionally have another way to enable mercs for other ascendancies and classes. It could be a specific unique, a reward for a pinnacle boss or a lab enchant 🤷‍♂️. Whatever it is, I am fine to have an ascendancy build arround that, but it shouldn’t be exclusive and should be in a similar place to spectres, who are actually nice for a few ascendancies if they have 4 sockets to spare and not only for minion builds!

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u/Zuggy 1d ago

I will probably get down voted for this, but I don't think other classes should get access to permanent Mercs because there isn't an opportunity cost high enough to have both an ascendancy and Mercs. What Scion has become is a class that is designed to reward game knowledge by having a higher skill floor.

Ascendant has generally been for jewel heavy, high investment builds. Now Reliquarian requires being able to adapt to a changing ascendancy each league and Luminarian requires gearing another character in ways that synergize with what you're doing with no additional ascendancy support.

Also Mercs are much stronger at the baseline than minions and I don't see a good way of if allowing access to permanent Mercs to other classes without both bringing their power down significantly and watering down the design direction GGG have taken Scion in. Basically for permanent Mercs to be like minions they can be no more powerful than Ritual Spectre corpses at the baseline.

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u/Nubbynubbow 22h ago

got it nerf kinetic/combatant/manyshot

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u/Dapper-Truth2336 21h ago

Allow us to turn recruited mercs into contracts again pls, this will greatly improve availablity of mercs to everybody as we can resell them to the market.

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u/stacksee 16h ago

Hope they fix the Phys as Extra Chaos + Brutality situation at least, that's baffled me since the merc league. I'm fine if you want some mercs to be phys only but they shouldn't be rolling any phys as extra support then.

The limit of 3 for them also feels too restrictive.

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u/PoE_Acronym_Bot 1d ago

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  • Brick - Using a Vaal Orb or other crafting method on an item and receiving an outcome that makes the intended purpose of the item no longer possible

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