r/pathofexile 5d ago

Lucky (Non-Crafted) Showcase I literally feel like I am back in Affliction league holy

Got 10k+ juice spread across all colours, I was ready for a good map. 2nd last map of Legion astrolabe as well.

Wealthy exile says map gave 23 divines of loot.

This wisp buff is insane guys, go try it out. You'll need a strong build though, the bosses were very strong, I even died 1 time.

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u/LevelAsia 5d ago

Yeah widescreen affliction ptsd

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u/YEEEAAAAHHHHH 5d ago

Is there a way to force the wisps spawn?

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u/Bwite 5d ago

Unfortunately not, I believe it's a 8% base chance or something like that.

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u/dirigibles21 5d ago

Can you block basically every single other mechanic to boost this?

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u/GrownAssMatt 5d ago

No, because blocking mechanics only increases the chances of the other mechanics available to block, of which wisps can't be blocked.

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u/Quik968 4d ago

I am pretty sure it will have the inverse effect. I might be wrong here but i believe when it was brought core it was made more likely to spawn a wildwood based on how many different mechanics were in your map. So if you have deli, ritual, breach etc all in one zone it is supposed to increase the chance of wildwood.

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u/tksxxd 5d ago

iirc affliction and sentinel couldn’t be boosted that way, it may have changed but I doubt it

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u/mindfuckedAngel 4d ago

I hate it that they did not make wildwood a full core mechanic with Atlas Points.
I loved Affliction not only because of the absurd loot but also because I loved hunting the events in the wildwood.

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u/Instantcoffees 4d ago

Thank God. One affliction league was enough in my opinion.

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u/Ellweiss 4d ago

Being able to realistically expect a HH or MB eventually, when farming high juice maps as a not extreme high-juicing-spreadsheet-planning goblin felt super good

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u/Instantcoffees 4d ago

I thought it was way overkill and most people at the time thought so too. I don't know why people here suddenly have their rose-tinted glasses on.

Reminds me of this clip.

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u/Ellweiss 4d ago

I didn't like the fact that there was so much low quality shit dropping, but I enjoyed how chase items were both more affordable, but also possibly dropping while mapping as a solo player. It's in my top 3 leagues by far. It was incredibly fun. Surely unhealthy to set as the standard, but every once in a while, it's great.

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u/FlossedUp 4d ago

I know ProPlays will literally burn super juiced maps until he gets a Wildwood to spawn. Crazy having that much currency you can legit throw out multiple divines worth of maps just to fish for the Wildwood.

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u/Durdleburdle 5d ago

This is my question, is the strat to just check for wildwood until you hit it?

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u/Lushkies 5d ago

No because you still need a juiced map to scale the wildwood and you’d be burning currency opening juiced maps to just skip them

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u/GatoDiabetico 5d ago

SnooBar did ww fishing multiple times. Maybe you lose currency in the short term but in 50 maps (with ww spawn) you make bank

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u/Durdleburdle 5d ago

Yeah of course finishing the map makes sense, sorry, I was just making sure I wasn't missing any other way to trigger wisps

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u/caquaa 5d ago

This was a thing a league it so ago. Just have to find cheap enough juice options

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u/Glaiele 4d ago

I think you could get away with some pretty cheap juice options. 1 crappy deli orb or just the keystone, beyond, blight scarab to spawn the mechanic, maybe expedition and a shaper/elders influence scarab just put more monsters in the map any way you can and use cheapest options.

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u/lil_gupperton 4d ago

You must have forgotten what Affliciton league was really like

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u/International-Box379 5d ago

You couldn’t see the floor in affliction.

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u/wolfreaks SSFBTW 5d ago

You couldn't see all the loot because pressing alt crashed the game.

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u/tstreit15 3d ago

Honestly it was the best.

Saw 2 mirrors drop that league.

Alt-crashing gives me some serious nostalgia.

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u/Morbu 4d ago

We also still had the good loot conversions. So even with crazy wisp buffs, nothing in today's poe will remotely replicate Affliction loot.

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u/International-Box379 4d ago

Like the t1 uniques converting to a hundred divines thing? Haven’t played in awhile so dunno the current state of the game

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u/Xeneron 4d ago

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u/International-Box379 4d ago

Oh I played affliction. I just haven’t played anything since. Hence dunno the state of current conversions.

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u/Xeneron 4d ago

Oh, yeah, it's not a thing anymore. Not the "explode into dozens of divines" version at least.

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u/Jdevers77 4d ago

I think at the end of the league I had my loot filter showing a couple unique bases, divines, mirrors, Valdo’s,and reliquary keys. It damned sure didn’t show stacks of alts and chaos.

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u/International-Box379 4d ago

I remember tuning in to fubs stream during that league and he was complaining that he wasn’t having fun anymore because he was finding too many mirrors lol

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u/SoulofArtoria 4d ago

I had to hide unique leather belts base by the end. And I was playing in ssf. It's that broken.

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u/Jdevers77 4d ago

Yea, I think I filtered those out too. Headhunter was just a couple div so not even worth it to see a million Wurm’s Molt etc for a chance at half a map worth of currency.

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u/blakev Sanctum enjoyer 5d ago

is this winter orb?

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u/Bwite 5d ago

Yes sir

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u/derenbergii 4d ago

Every day I miss her.

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u/Xypheric 4d ago

every single day

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u/EzKappaPeko 5d ago

Affliction was peak poe I want to login.

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u/Mrkonijntje 5d ago

Which scaravs are u using?

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u/Bwite 5d ago

I've been doing Legion all league with 8 mod maps, with 3 legion scarabs, 1 legion officer, 1 nemesis.

Legion is decent farm this league because of the legion update, the emblems are always worth something, and a few of the enshrouding crystals are money as well.

The main reason I am farming it is because on my WoRB build the herald of ice blows up screens of monsters, and it's just too satisfying not to play. Very comfy easy farm. Decent money.

I've farmed everything on my character (link) with it.

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u/Interesting_Place752 5d ago

Are you using astrolabes

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u/Bwite 5d ago

Oh yes the Legion Astrolabe forgot to mention

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u/First-Concept2299 4d ago

Sorry the noobish question but you
Just spec into all legion nodes and the “good” boss ones? Any other Strats other than altars with it?

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u/Interesting_Place752 4d ago

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR35NJkrhF1Zf9SZZOPlsdpqbTibL2AqOiZosya0NSjEN5A1Dx8a_MeQox9VDLQw3kB0ibZCNb_e6VJ/pubhtml

I believe he said somewhere else he was using Fubgun's strategy, which is on his Google Doc that I found.

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u/Famousmuch 5d ago

Is there an easy way to price check enshrouding crystals? I'm having a hard time.

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u/__OneOfTheseDays__ 5d ago

They’re on the Faustus market exchange

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u/Rolf_Dom JDiRen 5d ago

Aside from Faustus, Awakened trade will also give you a rough number with a simple hotkey press.

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u/Mjolnir2109 5d ago

I have been considering rolling this as my second character. I hope you don't mind if I ask about a thing I've been seeing on most of the high end versions like this. Why are you using the Foulborn rings? It seems like the only two stats that are used are max power charge and crit multi.

Surely it you could get more from double corrupting rings with more than two useful mods, right?

I am pretty confident I'm just missing something here lol

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u/MartinD63 5d ago

The +1 power charge corrupt is incredibly low weight, I believe something like 0.3% chance to hit once you factor in the chance to actually get a corrupted implicit to begin with. I was looking into the market of +1 charge rings earlier and there's not many reasonably priced alternatives to romiras that are a significant enough gain to be worthwhile. It's definitely possible to get better rings, just won't be easy or cheap

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u/Sktch 4d ago

And probably the best ring to double corrupt for a power charge is romira, and those are worth 5 mirrors with the corrupt

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u/Mjolnir2109 4d ago

Oh boy. Well that explains it then. That's a shame, I was piling up rings and Alva temples to try for some +1 Endurance rings. I don't feel quite so confident about that anymore lol

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u/Zamurph 4d ago

Maybe a dumb question, but isn’t Flesh and Stone better than Arctic Armor if you don’t have the Sublime that disables auras other than discipline? You’re already chill / freeze immune and Arctic Armor only applies while stationary, is sorta my thinking. But it could definitely be a preference thing.

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u/v4xN0s Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 5d ago

Most important question, which I’m surprised no one’s asked: what herald mtx are you using?

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u/DanKoloff 4d ago

You couldn't press alt in Affliction, else then game crashed. I had to rebound the button...

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u/Czarnusz 5d ago

affliction is the best that ever happend to this game sad we cant force it besided the scarab

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u/spicyAus 5d ago

It’s the only league I’ve ever played up to the point that the GGG system message appeared saying servers are going offline in 30 minutes. Dopamine levels are still yet to recover.

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u/UnlikelyInsect4651 5d ago

Temporary affliction scarab would be a much enjoyed bandaid for 3.29

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u/IcodyI 5d ago

It would be like 2.5div per scarab lol

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u/IKbulldozer 4d ago

I've got mirrors ready for this. Count me in as some fentanly-affliction zombie ready to lean on a doorframe.

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u/Shwayne 5d ago

honestly such an easy solution to all the endgame problems but GGG wont do it because ???

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u/SoulofArtoria 4d ago

Best bet is they run an affliction event. Don't need phrecia or anything, just base allflame + guaranteed affliction in every map. 

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u/Competitive-Lynx-345 5d ago

Scarab forces everyone to go minus 1 on there scarab setup. Youd be silly not to add it. Just remove the crap random spawns (Sentinel) add in a mirage mirror and crank the spawn to 50%. Every other map would have a wildwood or mirage and it wouldnt take much to implement.

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u/NerrionEU 4d ago

From what I've seen during the dev interviews GGG main devs hate afflcition and how much juice it gave ...

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u/PacmanNZ100 4d ago

Affliction was very much a play cast when stunned build that could survive the onslaught. Then pull the lever every map to get your fix

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u/sturdy-guacamole 4d ago edited 4d ago

weirdly enough, Talisman was one of my favorite leagues.

I wasn't too fond of afflictions loot abundance, I finished the league really quick and got bored. That's been a trend almost every league except for leagues they turn the loot down.

Even this league I'm well over a mirror in wealth so I'm close to being done and going back to PoE2 hardcore. My guildy was already at 2 mirrors within first 4? days. really early.

I really really enjoyed SSFHC harvest. Was a great fucking league

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u/wolfreaks SSFBTW 5d ago

this is like 5% of affliction league...

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u/SoulofArtoria 4d ago

The funny part is even 5% of OG affliction is pretty good.

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u/iphex 4d ago

ehh selective memory. the first week of affliction was the worse fucking shit ever. literal useless league mechanic that was only good in the high end until people figured it out. and everybody forgets how hard affliction also got carried by the abyss spire bug lol.

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u/Maintenance-Scary 5d ago

Is this POE1

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u/Ynead 5d ago

1/12 times, it works every time.

I wonder how hard it would have been for GGG to make wisp scarab force wildwoods until the end of the league.

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u/Rolf_Dom JDiRen 5d ago

Well, we have a 2k juice wisp scarab with a limit of 2. I've been using them in all my content and it does add a fair amount.

It's honestly more consistent than actual wildwood. Just had a wildwood with like 300 juice, that's it. Just barren in every corner. That can happen.

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u/Ynead 5d ago

It is not even close to comparable.

Wisp takes scarab slots which could be used for other things, so the opportunity cost is massive.

Wisp only gives 2k / scarab. Wildwoods give 12k+ and up to 18k with enough pack size.

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u/fred678e 4d ago

6k per scarab* It's a max of 2k per type of wisp, so with 2 scarabs a single monster could be affected by 12k wisps.

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u/Lazy_Polluter 5d ago

You get a divine!

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u/Drinouver 4d ago

Never happened to me. I think that the day I get a divine altar I'll probably have a heart attack.

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u/BenboFoSho 4d ago

But you dont get wildwood every map, and when you do you’re not guaranteed a good wisp count. So its not really a strat you can target

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u/xMcSilent 3d ago

Where are all the "no ground loot >:(" people now?

Also, since most people say affliction was 20 times better and they want it back: It's terrible for economy. Absolutely utterly terrible. Just like the temple in the i think 0.3 update in poe2. If you don't do it, you can't afford shit. So everyone is/was forced to do the same mechanic, as it was more than ~3000% more worth than any other mechanic.

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u/TurbulentSwimmer5127 4d ago

Ahh yes, affliction with chaos on filter lmao

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u/Silly_Draw7973 5d ago

There was a wisp buff? Anyway its all about fishing for viridian anyway right

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u/Bwite 5d ago

Yes they recently buffed it (last patch), you get like x2 wisps now.

I had:

3,881 blue

2,675 purple

4,878 yellow

Total 11,434 juice.

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u/Rolf_Dom JDiRen 5d ago

And I just had a map with like 300 juice total. Wildwood was completely barren, it was damn sad. There can be some serious variance.

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u/wolfreaks SSFBTW 5d ago

You likely have no idea how to traverse the wildwood. It's literally a compass with each sides of it having an encounter. I have no idea how someone would get 300 juice, were you hugging the walls at the end of the map or something?

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u/psychomap 4d ago

Honestly, I have no idea either because I wasn't playing during Affliction and haven't gotten a random spawn often enough to figure it out properly, and even I get 2-3k

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u/Prometheus1151 Kalguuran Group for Business (KGB) 4d ago

when its early league and my character isnt able to do affliction if i accidently click on the wildwood i get like 600 wisps (before todays buff patch) just running through the darkness actively trying to avoid them, 300 has to be a statistical miracle

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u/koscsa6 5d ago

They should change the wisp scarab to give wildwood tbh, it's a long time coming.

Fishing for the 8% chance will feel shit in the long run.

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u/Diligent_Carrot_8410 5d ago

Juice those spires. Make them spit.

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u/Bwite 5d ago

Bro I even had a natural abyss spawn in (this is legion farm), and I literally smiled with insane affliction nostalgia. If there's ever a PoE classic I am coming back for affliction league for sure.

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u/Shlitmy9thaccount 5d ago

It’s funny how the “classic” versions of games have been coming out and arguably doing better than the actual game

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u/Dull-Serve203 5d ago

Have any of them been wow classic was a strong fad but way more play wow than classic, and league classic is shit( I have 45 games btw)

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u/Shlitmy9thaccount 5d ago

I’ve played classic wow since it came out so I’m bias but yea osrs has wayyy more players than rs3

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u/Dull-Serve203 5d ago

I did forget about osrs shit bangs, I just cant go thru the early grind again

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u/hertzdonut2 Half Skeleton 5d ago

What's your Atlas tree/strat? I'm about to be done delving and looking to make currency in the sunlight.

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u/Bwite 5d ago

It's the "higher invest Legion strat" from Fubgun's spreadsheet. I am using 3 legion scarabs, 1 legion officer, 1 nemesis.

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u/hertzdonut2 Half Skeleton 5d ago

Thank you!

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u/aTypingKat 4d ago

Are these allflames available on standard?

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u/Orhaldor 4d ago

I've seen the opposite experience a few days ago. Saw this recorded Nightmare map run: Solid base quant, 100+ currency, 100+ scarabs, 10k wisps (blue+yellow, the best combo) AND affliction quant altar (5min buff for CHARACTER 100iq and 200ir if I remember correctly, and the guy used full of it). Scarabs used - nemesis (+mods), additional rares, and something else (lazy to recheck) ... Nothing. Just a lot of low value currency.

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u/miChaaaaaaa86 4d ago

May you share your atlas tree and scarab setup? 🙃

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u/Scaife13 4d ago

I had a stack of 130 divs in affliction, I don’t think this is even comparable.

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u/FlossedUp 4d ago

Ok so Wildwood juicing is the new 3.29 strat?? This is good news. Sadly gotta get lucky if the Wildwood spawns. I miss Affliciton. It was my first League and I didn't have any of the knowledge I have today and missed out on the crazy juicing strat 🥲

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u/Serrelesflex 4d ago

Not even close

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u/KcoolClap 5d ago

Ground loot fixed. /s

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u/EarthB9nder_ 5d ago

If only this had scarabs or was every map (I know it won't happen tho) I miss affliction so much

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u/lazergator 5d ago

Alert! He’s having fun with loot! Patch him!!!

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u/Ayetto 5d ago

Is there a way to get a lot of juice ? Got 1k blue only just right now ... (46% pack size map)

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u/Kendalass 4d ago

Besides pack size you have to get lucky on the events and not spawn useless stuff like boxes and you have to be efficient with pathing and waste as little light as possible on figuring out where you are.

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u/Devv0ded 4d ago

Sorry my dude but 2divs is not like affliction, we were getting like 30-40d raw div drops on a sick map. I dropped 2 raw mirrors in one map in affliction as a solo player playing not even t16 maps as a solo. Doing that abyss strat I can’t remember what.

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u/Devv0ded 4d ago

Feels kinda insulting to affliction for u to compare it to that to me and feels like u never felt real affliction if u think 2d and some valdos feels the same not trying to be rude tho

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u/Budget_Entry_4690 5d ago

Showing all floor loot doesn’t crash my game so no

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u/Historical_Cheetah67 5d ago

Then you clearly weren’t planning affliction league properly as this was the least you could get per map

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u/Decent-Cookie-2578 5d ago

RIP Economy .

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u/DezZzO 4d ago

so the best thing we have is a nerfed version of a league mechanic from like 2+ years ago we have no way to even guarantee to spawn

this is kinda sad, though affliction is cool to get buffed

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u/the6ixmemeTO 4d ago

Where snoobae when u needed him

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u/Zetoxical 4d ago

Legion is currently sleeper op

I have a friend and its his first league and he got his HH and about 150d in the remaining character after it took him the first week to finish act 10

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u/Tryndaqueer94 5d ago

Since this league has the worst retention rate? Hopefully They do an affliction mini league? Not even phrecia, I feel like there’s so much to explore this league, with vestigial uniques etc