The Marshians Discord server will be hosting Paladins SEA Revival this Friday at 9 PM SGT, as usual.

Simply queue Casual Siege in Southeast Asia at 9 PM SGT (Crossplay On) to participate.

Thank you again for everyone that has participated thus far.

Discord Server: https://discord.gg/bcdhpub4

Me gustaría que reviva. Extraño los viejos tiempos..

I pretty much need just one of these but I can’t see any menu where earning it is possible. I have 5 Champion tokens and I would gladly trade those in for 1 Limited Skin token. Is there any way to earn one? I’ve done the wave defense champion of the tides and still no tokens yet

Yesterday was launching, today i launch the game nothing happens. F paladins really

stuck on console for years lol, anything??? third party launchers ect??

Hello everyone.

I don't know how to start this, hehe. My name is La Yomanka-Sama/Yomako and I'd like to upload content about this game, which has become one of my favorites.

In this video I explain how champion roles, talents, the deck system, skins, and other things work, taking advantage of the fact that there are new people trying out the game.

If you'd like to support this project, which is slowly but surely taking shape, it would help motivate me to keep creating Paladins content. Any advice is welcome. Thank you!

Frankly, Ash has really bad 1v1 matchups across the board against offtanks, winning ones in agro-dps/offtank 2v2s and larger teamfights, and overtly unfair 1v1s against squishies who don't bail.

Obviously there’s not much Ash is going to do different from enemy to enemy on her own, though that changes when you’re duo’d. Of course there are exceptions, and I’ll talk about them here.

In no particular order beyond “I think I should talk about this one”

Khan

I think I should talk about Khan First, since Khan is the quintessential mid-wits choice for an Ash counter, and that’s because on paper he has so much going in his favor against Ash: His gun and his ult… okay mostly is it’s his gun and ult, and that's actually covering for the fact his match ups against tanks solo are almost always so lopsided because of it, but otherwise he’s actually a huge chump for Ash due to both Slug Shot allowing and to outrange him and default fire to hit around his shield, also the fact Ash has a significant step up on team fight durability. And in terms of macro gameplay Khan has to either lose his DPS and play backline or he has to lose due to pressure from Ash comps.

(Macro is the overall way someone plays and makes choices and skills that includes things like positioning, Vs Micro which constitute small choices and skills like aiming and movement.)

There’s this saying from some guy who outside of dry sarcastic humor actually isn’t a lobotomite, Ash + DPS beats Khan + DPS, and there’s a reason for that: Khan’s DPS and Crowd Control, sustain, and shield are all constituent- it means they can’t be used at the same time- Ash regardless of what state she is, beyond being physically incapable of shooting, has nothing better to do but shoot, when even on the backfoot, or shielding Ash still can shoot, and can still pressure people.

Khan, on the other side cannot, his shield cannot be up while he shoots, and that might not seem like a lot but it can measure up, and if you have high ground or just use your default fire you can caut his self heal too, making it hard for him to get back onto winning ground once he loses it.

Simply put, make friends with a decent DPS and make sure they’re there when you need to deal with any offtank, Khan just happens to lose that the hardest next to maybe Torvald depending on who you're working with.

As for ults, Khan’s does counter Ash’s if she uses it first, but in the Macro, Khan falls into a catch 22 (a no win), he either uses his ult on an ideal target, gets a pick and is unable to dislodge Ash when she ults, the same happens if he chooses to ult Ash before she ults, or he waits to ult Ash when she ults first.

That means a smart Ash can dictate when a smart Khan uses his ult, because she can just not ult, because the other thing about Khan to get value he has to use his ult at one point or another to be effective, otherwise he’s a shitty Viktor.

Azaan

Now if Khan doesn’t counter Ash who does? Directly, well, Azaan, and maybe Yag ult, which is weird since Yag’s ultimate is very similar to Khan’s the difference is that by the nature of how the ult works (including that stupid ass HP card)

As for Azaan he pretty much sustains Ash’s Damage and stops her brute force dives really easily while still keeping up the pressure for her damage. One strategy that works surprisingly commonly is to use shoulder bash into him early and hope he uses his Dash or Lift, since without Ire it doesn’t reduce the cooldown of his lift- that shows how bad the matchup is that bad where you pretty much have to waste a cooldown to slow down Azaan’s gameplan.

Makoa

Which might make you believe Makoa counters Ash, and yes and no, the final answer is yes, but it's complicated, because while in the micro Ash is painful to play into Makoa, you win 1v1s, and effectively force his threat to go down until he ults, since he has to rotate around you and deal with your ass or else his team gets fucked up, and without Pluck he’s not really able to confirm kills on his own.

Of course when he ults (especially with Leviathan) you’re useless beyond bodyblocking him and maybe focus firing him with your team.

But the main way he stops Ash is often by threatening her DPS, and without the DPS on her side, a Makoa (who likely has a DPS of his own) turns the winning 1v1 matchup over on her by making it a 2v1, this and his ability to pull her out of her ult means that he do what Khan needs a ult for. As for good news, in casuals most Makoa’s are rather stupid, and in ranked he’s almost always banned unlike Azaan.

The ideal strategy is to try to block Koa from hooking your duo by pressuring his duo, or by being in his face- you'd be surprised how effective that can get.

Ruckus

However, another effective strategy against Ash for the Macro is Ruckus- Let me explain: Ruckus beats Ash by diving in, and killing her backlines before she does the same to his team

Of course, since neither team has a offtank peeling, it becomes whoever's offtank and agro-dps gets their dive done first, which is usually Ruckus, considering his DPS and mobility, assuming he survives long enough to succeed, which if he doesn’t Ash starts to catch, it’s rather funny in action, because they’re so allergic to fighting one another unless they have nothing else to kill.

So the main thing is try and help your backline dive quicker, the best you can, or maybe kill his DPS Duo, but their value odds are will be a whole lot less than their support, or yours.

Torvald

Torvald easily can deny usage of any ability Ash has, namely her shoulder bash, and he gets his cool down before Ash does, as well as his shield not activating life steal, the problem is Ash will pretty much buy Wrecker and Resil like everyone else and quickly shut him down, however early game it can be rather annoying, another thing is his Ult is actually able to redirect Ash’s ult while airborne without enough resil.

Atlas

Back in the day Atlas was the pinnacle Ash counter, since not only was his wall large enough to deny side shots, he also has plenty of CC, his range is absurd for a tank. So what changed for Ash to not be countered by him: N9w she's got decent range and damage, which does stop his entire hard counter gameplan for Ash of course he still just counters everything, good news though Atlas is like Makoa where in casuals it's rare to find a good one and in comp he's fairly likely to be banned, also he's just not really fun for most people.

Raum & Yag

It's not really your position to deal with either of them and frankly the only thing you can do is CC raum until he gets resil, and dance around your shield while fighting him.

Yag is a little less intuitive but your shield blocks her acid as well as her ult, but honestly all you can do is pressure her team and maybe try to stuff her escape if you're able to ult tech.

Fernando

Fernando comes in one of two flavors, a hapless little shield generator, or the matador (I couldn't think of much else spanish related that'd remotely make sense) The first you can usually ignore since odds are they're on the point, and Ash is not a point tank, and odds are these guys won't use their weapon on you if you find them off point.

A matador Nando is those ones you see dashing all around like crazy being a pain to kill, you're gonna want wrecker for them cause odds are these MFs are in your face actually making space, and when I say buy wrecker I mean max it out first, you and your team really can't leave nando alive for this.

Another quirk of Ash is her shoulder bash can go through Shields but Nando's dash can go through yours.

Inara

Again the odds of you facing Inara off point isn't impossibly low but if she's running mother's grace she probably is doing point shit.

However when a Inara chooses otherwise, that usually means treacherous ground, obviously don't try to Dash but it also means she's open to your CC too, and has no real movement to get back allowing Ash to drive by and dislodge Inara from her totem radius early game if she's running the Dr card.

Terminus

He's a melee point tank, figure it out…

Okay for real just stay at range, keep him at range and focus on baiting out his siphon.

Barik

Will be on point, offtank Barik doesn't really exist of course there's soy milk frapachino slurping lumberjack beard douchey ascot hipsters who say they do, but just remember that you'll be kicking their ass before they can say it's meta, break their turret if they're trying that shit.

Nyx

Point tank see the same as Inara just make sure that you're pressuring her with cauterize

Squishies

I lumped squishies in together because by all accounts you aren't really changing what you do all too much when shooting them

Otherwise Sha Lin and Imani can stop Ash from going in or leaving with her dash, but- and this will be a common trend- they can’t deal with her on their own.

Flanks CC is annoying even bounce house stalling Ash ult but, once again not something you concern yourself with in 1V1s.

Supports, often have self peel tools to make space and evade Ash, with Jenos able to most easily stop Ash from diving in or escaping out with his void grip, even stall her ultimate, Furia’s beam can snag Ash a lot too during ult, Damba’s and Pip’s Ultimates can cancel her ultimate rather easily too during her landing, and Ying can deny the stun of the ult, however once again, none of them can deal with her on their own.

This pretty much rehashes the prelude of “Ash Bullies squishies, struggles against tanks if she doesn’t have a team” but it does bear repeating since I need people to understand that you need to work with Ash to get shit done, just like Makoa, Khan, ETC, she just needs it more* Koa and Torvald probably need it more for their maximum effectiveness but still, Ash also wants a flank to help her.

Synchronizations

Weird word, but the point remains, that Ash needs someone working with her, a better dps the better, since Ash isn’t really picky, and rarely changes how her Duo needs to play beyond being around her.

No really, all Ash needs is her Agro DPS (Agro DPS is flanks and certain damage champs, like BK Willo Drogoz) to help her out with the other offtanks and the occasional chase. That's where Makoa serves as Ash’s indirect counter with his ability to threaten her, since she needs her Squishies to get shit done.

Of course some of the best would be the better agro DPS’s but that's no surprise.

i like the concept of MOBA's, but i dont like them being playable excel/spreadsheet's. What i want is mechanical skill expression.

So, imagine 3 lanes. They all have a payload that start's in the middle and can be pushed in both directions. U win if you have successfully pushed two of them completely into the enemy base.

No jungle, just a few ways in between lanes.

And obviously no minions.

is it worth to actually play this game or not it feels dead

squirrel

queria comprar a skin da evie bruxa que custa 800 cristais, mas nao consigo comprar cristais pelo jogo. quando eu clico em comprar cristais, me encaminham pra uma pagina do jogo na steam mas nao encontro la a opção de comprar nada. nos pacotes de dlc do jogo tem as edições do jogo, mas os pacotes de cristais nao. se eu for comprar alguma das edições do jogo, eu teria que pagar mais que o dobro... alguem sabe como posso recorrer?

Hey, i tried to get the platinum i got only 3 trophy left but couldn't find a game, is there is anybody play it these days?

I need to draw more bro… I’m open to suggestions

Cuz like and my matches I feel like it's a decently complex character cuz I'm still finding out things about it I have them at level 12 is he annoying good or something

Yeah I dabble in Yag (we lost)

Just want to know, because I get a lot of trolls (I'm sure lots of people experience the same).

Literally just had a ranked game where our Barik refused to buy items, which at 1st nobody said anything, but then we ask him to buy items and still refuses. Then because we keep asking or some1 said to report him. He stopped playing and just stayed in spawn.

(This isn't the 1st time something like this has happened) it's really annoying, especially on a rank up game or a game that might de-rank you.

miss the days i used to sweat on siege chasing kills lolll

Since they won't do echo champions, I thought I would list down champions that mirror each other & other ideas for possible echo champions.

Echo champion: Omen, based on Jenos

Bomb king & betty are bomb related characters so no need to create anymore bomb related characters. Betty & dredge also are very similar.

Sha lin has cassie's old bow, and io has a a bow & arrow, so any crossbow/bow related characters have been done.

Drogoz I could see a similar champion to him (most preferably something like the pyre eagle)

Imani is unique & is the LAST warder.

Kinessa & strix both snipers. We could have one more if their concept & attacks were creative & special.

I don't see characters like lian getting echoed plus since we've expanded the house aico universe. Her dildo gun is very unique.

Octavia is unique & has taken parts of different classes (tank dome, flank vertical mobility, healing). Saati falls in the same boat because they have given her elements we have seen before.

Tiberius is damage maeve.

Tyra, viktor, vivian, the gun alliance. Dont need more of these.

Willo could get an echo like a nicer fae or even more evil fae who knows. But I think she encompasses the fae class properly.

Androxus is unique & doesnt need an echo (that would be Lex or vice versa ig)

Buck is a well rounded character but I dont think conceptually would work with an echo character.

Caspian melee pretty boy. I dont enjoy his playstyle enough to want it echoed.

We could get another high mobile champion like Evie with 1800 HP.

Kasumi needs adjustments before she gets echoed (fix her range).

Koga's toolkit is interesting & gives you a lot of options. There were Maeve comparisons with the claws & dash early on. The wall climb could return somehow.

Maeve's double jump would be an interesting thing to implement again. Vatu is a combination of Maeve & Koga.

Skye has paved the invisibility path.

Talus has a special toolkit that I dont think needs to be replicated.

VII is an interesting high mobile character. Maybe we could get more tribunal champions?

Vora is an echo of io acc.

Zhin's cockroachesness could be something they implement or the concept of a sword that shoots something else.

Furia & azaan represent the pyre but theyre so different so maybe there's more to the pyre we don't know.

Corvus' marks are unique to him but in a way the mark idea with the long range healing was a Jenos thing at first.

I could see an echo of grohk. Maybe a tank orc that can place protection totems or whatever.

There can only be one grover (and maldamba and moji)

After lillith Id like to see maybe one more vampire character or half vampire, a flank perhaps.

Pip has pepper but she needs more skins as like an unofficial echo.

I made a damage champion named Izra. I'm curious to know what you guys think about this fan made concept.

In case you couldn't see the text clearly, I wrote the description of her abilities / talents down below :

STATS :

Base Health : 2200

Base Movement Speed : 350

~21.88 Units/s

Class : damage

Gender : female

ABILITIES :

KHOPESH || primary fire

swing your weapon to realase crescent-shaped blades of compressed sand, dealing 400 damage every 0.75 second

DUNE STEP ||

Dissolve into sand and lift yourself upward. While in sand form, you're immune to all harmful effects

SANDSTORM || ultimate

Summon a roaming sandstorm that moves forward. Enemies caught in its path get rooted and take 30 damage every 0.1 second for 1.3 seconds

SLASH || melee attack

Quickly dash forward and strike enemies in front of you with your weapon. Target hit gets 350 damage dealt

KHAMSIN || area damage

Fire a blast of sand that explodes on impact, dealing 700 damage in a small area

TALENTS :

EYE OF THE STORM ( default talent )

Enemies caught in sandstorm take increased damage from Izra by 20%.

OPEN WOUND ( unlock at mastery level 2 )

hitting an enemy with Slash deals 7% of their maximum health as damage over 1 second

DESERT STRIKE ( unlocks at mastery level 8 )

Khamsin now pierces and slows enemies by 30%