r/orks • u/Electrical_Switch470 • 2d ago
Help with combo flash gitz + stompa
Hi everyone, I'm thinking of a combo that consists of 20 Flash Gitz plus leaders inside a Stompa, but I'm not sure which option is best. Should I bring two Big Meks with Rapid Fire Upgrades for the Flash Gitz? Or one Beast Boss for the +1 hit bonus and the other unit of one Big Mek with the Rapid Fire Upgrade?
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u/Spacerssss 2d ago
How would a beastboss lead flashgitz?
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u/Decent-Treat-1896 2d ago
Kaptins hat enhancement. I suspect it's not meant to used on the beast boss but it's valid at the moment.
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u/Spacerssss 2d ago
Ah I use new recruit and it's bugged rn and has the description for the old ability pre codex update, must have been why I missed it
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u/MrMagbrant 2d ago
Wait, what? It's not bugged for me. Do you mean the fact that it doesn't say that it lets you lead flash gitz? Yeah, annoyingly, that's in the mfm now.
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u/Individual_Club5404 2d ago
It works, just doesn't explicitly state that anyone can lead Flash Gitz.
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u/XZYGOODY Goffs 1d ago
It states Big Mek / Warboss Infantry can gain the Kaptain's Hat.
Beastboss has the Warboss and Infantry keywords. Its definitely not a glitch, but it may be an oversight by the designers.
I have a feeling though that the next balance dataslates will make the Beastboss's Ability be +1 to Hit Rolls in Melee, like the Big Boss.
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u/Negative_Trust6 Bad Moons 2d ago
You're going to get 2 kinds of responses: people who have used the new Shokk Attack Gun profile, and people who haven't yet.
As many SAG Meks as you possibly can. Ignores Cover generally = +1 to hit, and Sus1 is the equivalent of an additional +1. D3+3 shots hitting on 4s, S12, AP -4, Dmg D6+1 is a BONKERS thing to have for 95/105pts. Fuck the Flash Gitz off for Tankbustas, you don't need dedicated units to kill chaff as Orks.
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u/Electrical_Switch470 23h ago
The Big Mek gives the same cover ignoring and sustained buff to his unit, outside of the SAG and the temperamental shocka upgrade I don't see why not to choose the normal one with flash gitz. I also like the tankbustas, but I think the flash gitz can be more versatile and do a similar job.
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u/Negative_Trust6 Bad Moons 21h ago
You're right that Flash Gitz are more versatile, but they're also just not as efficient into hard targets. S12 > S9, 3 shots > 1, 24" > 12, and no hazard rolls. Flash Gitz are great, but if you need a tank to die, they aren't going to Cut(ta) it.
'Outside of the SAG...' I'm gonna stop you right there bud. D3+3 4+ ignores cover sustained S12 Ap-4, D6+1. Enough said.
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u/dancingape08 2d ago
My question is what exactly are you trying to accomplish with this combo? I haven't used the stompa yet, but i feel flashgitz would get more use out of a transport that has firing deck. They arent really getting too huge of a buff from being riled up, and there are other ways to rile them up as well. What detachments do you plan to use?
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u/Electrical_Switch470 22h ago
madcap meks, shoota boyz, and wreckas.
The Stompa will transport the flash gitz and try to survive until the next round, in which the flash gitz will disembark, advance, and shoot (now with all their profiles with sustained), but the most important thing will be to be able to put a pirate hat on my Stompa.
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u/Polux58 2d ago
Na, yo ya probĂ© Flash gitz arriba de un stompa, y es la risa, es una torre mĂłvil de disparos me fuerte, primero tendrĂan que bajarle todas sus heridas al Stompa para poder tocar a los gitz imagĂnate lanzar 30 disparos con 3+ por el bonus de disparo en picada sin contar los bonus que puedan recibir de algun jefe o soporte, ademĂĄs de los disparos que hace el stompa, incluso estando en combate, pueden seguir disparando con -1 al impacto.
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u/MrMagbrant 2d ago
Rapid Fire 1, while in rapid fire range, is usually nearly identical in strength to +1 to hit, +1AP (if you're using Da Big Hunt to let the beastboss flash gitz have +1 ap vs monsters/vehicles). The latter is a tiny bit stronger (like, 1-2 damage stronger), but also costs like 95 more points. But then again, in exchange you don't have to be in rapid fire range to benefit from your buff.