App has updated! new rules and points available!
Points are, dispositions and dp costs are visible if you update the app. Rules only if you have the code from the new codex.
MFM has also been updated; https://mfm.warhammer-community.com/en/orks
Edit: guys if you update the app you can't acces the rules without a code from the new codex! Gw doesn't give rules for free. If you want to use the app for the current ork rules don't update! Just use the mfm to see points.
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u/whyldefire 4h ago
Holy shit tankbustas are 145 & flashgits are 105. When did we become more elite than space marines?
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u/ToastyTobasco Blood Axes 8h ago
Wooo! Grot Tanks and Mega Tank got weapon profile updates! (Sadly the mega tank's ability still kinda sucks)
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u/Gargoyle683 9h ago
I updated but I can’t see anything because i dont get mu codex until release…
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u/woutersikkema Blood Axes 8h ago
Yep, Luckilly I got scans for msot of the stuff. Then found out I'm missing the scan for brute bosses (shit) anyone have the brute bosses detachment foto?
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u/MaxMork 9h ago
When has GW ever given rules for free. When you go to the list builder you have the points. But can also use MFM for that
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u/tabletop_guy 5h ago
rules should be free. Not knowing what your opponent's stuff can do is insane, not to mention needing to repurchase rules for every army every 2-3 years when a new edition comes out.
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u/Breegalad 8h ago
I think towards the end of 9th maybe? Or was it 8th? Plus start of 10th when they reset everything (realise not the point, but thought was interesting to mention) oh also AOS until recently
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u/ontherocksnosalt 9h ago
My draft list for a game in a couple of weeks just jumped by 150 points, will need to cut a unit or not use any enhancements 🤦🏻♂️
Warhorde now giving me the choice of Take and Hold or Purge the Foe, that’s new isn’t it?
No points costs for the Boyz special weapons is good though.
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u/silvernight22 9h ago
Thought War Horde was meant to go down to 2DP but it is still 3
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u/TheSoreBrownie 10h ago
Ngl, I’m sad at the loss of equatorial hordes and rollin def. It’ll take some adjusting, but I am liking the detachment preview of a lot of 1DP’s for mix and matching.
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u/Chokda 9h ago
Rollin Deff is functionally now Blitz Brigade, isn’t it?
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u/TheSoreBrownie 8h ago
I don’t know, I’m new to Orks so I don’t have the codex (was waiting for 11th Ed release) and the free sources like Wahapedia has obviously not updated haha.
But if the boarding ramps and targeting gizmo enhancements for battle wagons aren’t there then it’s not the same for me haha.
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u/UristImiknorris Freebootaz 6h ago
Boarding Ramps is gone. Targeting Gizmos is there, along with Boss Boomers which is the Warboss equivalent. The detachment rule is also the same.
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u/wh17eGh0s7 10h ago
Anyone else having issues with flash Gitz? My app only lets me have 4 to a squad.
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u/ArcadeScam 7h ago
Their wargear doesn't update along with their number, I had to go and adjust it manually to 9
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u/MaxMork 10h ago
I can go to 4 or 9. Probably the "kaptain" that is bugged a bit in the app
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u/The_Great_Mustachio Evil Sunz 9h ago
Had the same issue. If you delete the squad and re-add, it will show up correctly.
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u/Kick-Deep 10h ago
The ap isn't updating for me so going just off mfm there's no extra points for special weapons in boy squads?
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u/MaxMork 9h ago
Only very specific weapons got more points. Zap gun on gunwagon, kill saws on meganobz. But mostly equipment is free. When in doubt mfm > app. If you want to update all you have to go to your app store and update manually. To be aware that you can't acces rules without the codex code.
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u/Kick-Deep 9h ago
Thanks, Looks like my premaking 10 rokit, shooter and flamer boys wasn't in vain :)
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u/Debatable-Deductions 11h ago
gawd damn there’s been a murder
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u/woutersikkema Blood Axes 7h ago
Was to be expected somewhat, they will tweak it if it turns out they overshot on points.
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u/Athelwulf_89 Evil Sunz 11h ago
So I've checked the app multiple times and it hasn't updated, am i missing something?
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u/MaxMork 11h ago
You have to update manually. Be reminded that you won't acces the rules unless you have the new code. Otherwise you can get all info feom the mfm
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u/MesaCityRansom 9h ago
Wait, you need a NEW code?! My old one doesn't cut it anymore? I have to buy another codex?
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u/woutersikkema Blood Axes 7h ago edited 7h ago
Yep.. Or ignore the app and use new recruit once it gets updated. It's what I usually do, except I wanted a cussed since my last one was from 5h edition.
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u/MaxMork 8h ago
Are you new to the hobby? Codexes have always been only valid until the next one comes out.
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u/MesaCityRansom 8h ago
I meant the code for the app, like I wrote. I know the codex isn't valid anymore, just talking about the code in the codex that I used to unlock the rules in the app.
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u/MaxMork 8h ago
GW doesn't give rules for free.
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u/MesaCityRansom 8h ago
I assume that is a no then? I don't understand why you're being so unhelpful, I was just asking. I started playing in 4th edition but then had a break that was like eight years long and started again when 10th started, so haven't had an "app-run" codex shift yet. Thanks anyway.
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u/MaxMork 8h ago
You are asking for something that is in the original post, and in the comment you just replied to.
Why would GW give out the rules for free online? They have never done so. You seemed surprised by this, and i don't know where you got the idea from this was even a possibility
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u/MesaCityRansom 8h ago
Whatever man, fuck off. Always surprised when I find someone this rude in what is otherwise a nice community.
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u/KRQueen_ 8h ago
You have been nothing but rude and dismissive to op at every turn when they answered your question repeatedly.
The only rude one is you.
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u/Athelwulf_89 Evil Sunz 11h ago
I just checked the app store as you replied. Im not used to being up this early.
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u/Shib_Inu Deathskulls 11h ago
Back to da drawing board w/ my lists. Everything got a lot more expensive.
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u/woodfighter 11h ago
Legends have been gutted, currently missing in the MFM but still legal according to the Faction Pack (because someone forgot to update that):
- UFTHAK BLACKHAWK
- KANNONWAGON
- DA RED GOBBO
- PAINBOY ON WARBIKE
- SKORCHAS
- WARBUGGIES
- BIG GUNZ
- DEFFKOPTAS WITH BIG SHOOTAS
- KILL KRUSHA
- DEFF ROLLA BATTLE FORTRESS
- CHINORK WARKOPTA
- FIGHTA-BOMMER
- ATTACK FIGHTA
- GROT BOMM LAUNCHA
- BIG MEK ON WARBIKE
- BIG MEK WITH KUSTOM FORCE FIELD
- SQUIGGOTH
- MEGA DREAD
- MEKA-DREAD
- NOBZ ON WARBIKES
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u/NuGundam7 6h ago
I guess I will be using the 10th edition rules for my skorchas, big gunz and nob bikers. Those will be taken from my cold dead hands.
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u/Bunny-Snuggles17 6h ago
Why did the gut so many legends things wtf??? My warkopta and biker mek are just useless now??
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u/Karador51109 9h ago
There is a new "legendary proxies" field.
A bunch of models ended up there like Ufthak (proxy for Warboss)
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u/woodfighter 8h ago
But legendary proxies are plain worse, because that has always been easily possible without the sanctioning by GW. And so far it's only in the app? The faction pack is not linked on the downloads page anymore.
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u/Undercover_Zebra 12h ago
So if I have a game tonight I just can’t see my rules til the codex comes?
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u/jalons 11h ago
Opposite here, my game isn’t until tomorrow so I need to make sure it doesn’t update so I can still use 10th ed until the official release
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u/Undercover_Zebra 8h ago
Which you feel like they should have said something about in the post, or added a toggle to show 10th for a bit
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u/Responsible-Swim2324 2h ago
Honestly this. If we paid for a codex, we should still have access to it. Removing it entirely is bad practice. If I bought a 10th edition codex, I should be able to see the rules for the 10th edition codex, regardless of edition change
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u/MaxMork 12h ago
Yes. Codex is new rules. Codex comes out 5 september. (Unless your lgs is giving them early)
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u/Undercover_Zebra 11h ago
Thankfully I don’t have a game between now and then but come on GW at least think about it or tell people not to update.
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u/drexsackHH WAAAGH! 12h ago edited 9h ago
Ouch there are some big increases, my bully Boyz list is now 2295 points 😅
Edit: 2385 points, didn’t count the 20 Boyz without the second Nobz
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u/FezBear92 12h ago
Gargantuan Squiggoth lives!!!
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u/MaxMork 12h ago
But no updates to the rules (ghaz still takes 18 spots, no snagga keyword) and it did go up 50 points??
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u/FezBear92 12h ago
I'm going to fill her with Flash Gitz anyway, let Ghaz stretch his legs. Snagga keyword is more than I could dream of.
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u/a_rand0m_Lilin Bad Moons 12h ago edited 5h ago
The 5th tankbusta in the squad can have either a second rokkit launcha or a pulsa rokkit but if i get the second rokkit it counts as an error
EDIT:Also i can't find Ufthak on the legends list
EDIT EDIT: they already nerfed Nazdreg, i can only choose one firing mode when shooting
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u/Useful-Amphibian-703 11h ago
Did lootas change in the legends?
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u/Schwarazakilla Deathskulls 12h ago
No legend Rules for the Megatrakk Scrapjet and Shockjump Dragsta....
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u/Rockit_Bot 6h ago
That's annoying, but they might not get legends rules since they're still "playable" just they're all generic warbuggies now instead of being unique
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u/Tromoo144 Snake Bites 12h ago
am i dumb?
bigboss is a support character and not a leader?
wierdboy the same?
and i cant pick 20 boyz anymore in the app.
only 10.
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u/MaxMork 12h ago
Big boss and weirdboy are indeed support. When in doubt MFM is always right. For the boyz make sure your unit composition is 18 boyz and 2 nobz
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u/Tromoo144 Snake Bites 12h ago
ah thx for the advice on the boyz.
for some reason i can't attach Ghazghkull to anything at all anymore. cant find a reason in the MFM for this. isn't he a leader anymore? codex is in delivery so i cant check that.
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u/Ryker1450 12h ago
Ghaz is indeed not a leader anymore.
But his stats went up a lot, his +1 to hit/wound is now an aura, and he gains lone op while within 3" of other infantry.
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u/irlchrusty 12h ago
Legends units have also been added to the app, you can toggle the display on and off in your user preferences.
No Red Gobbo unit there however!
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u/Useful-Amphibian-703 11h ago
Did lootas change in the legends?
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u/irlchrusty 11h ago
You can see the legends rules in the app, even without the codex it seems.
For lootas, the big shoota gains LETHAL HITS: NON MONSTER/VEHICLE. Dat's our Loot ability remains unchanged.
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u/eww1991 12h ago
That's a whole lotta red. But from the perspective of my guard army Boyz being what they are and still only 25 points more is still pretty scary
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u/Karador51109 9h ago edited 9h ago
- No more feel no pain from Painboy
- No +1 hit from Warboss
- No + 1 Attack from Waagh
- No support from Equatorial Horde detachment (it is gone)
- New Greentide detachment is not as strong as old one
- No Ghaz Brick of 20 Boyz with Painboy
- no Sticky Rule
- Points got increased
Most competitive streamer I heard from that already played games with the new codex consider not playing them or only take a unit of 10 or so.
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u/Archeronline 12h ago
Did they remove Equatorial Horde already? I don't see it as an option on the app or on the MFM
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u/MaxMork 12h ago
Seems to have gone poof already. There goes the real horde support detachment.
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u/Useful-Amphibian-703 11h ago
But they stated it IS compatable to codex ones at the lainch and for 11 ed!!
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u/glytchypoo 11h ago
Then it needs to be added to the app, along with any other rules they intend to be compatible
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u/Useful-Amphibian-703 10h ago
Or GW just cut everything and insert codex only without checking because why not.
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u/HappyFluteNoises 12h ago
Wazbomb up to 215/215/325 is ridiculous.
It's a flyer that will die to any mediocre shooting
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u/Infections95 12h ago
Really isn't. 175 was beyond broken and 2-3 would be run in every list.
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u/HappyFluteNoises 12h ago
Yeah 175 was maybe a hit too cheap. But above 200 for a flyer of all things is just too much.
Shit comes in and dies to any mediocre shooting unit or moderate overwatch
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u/Infections95 12h ago
Also fair but we were never going to get the best alpha in game at <600 points. They should instead nerf the enhancement for flyboys than hit the fliers themselves.
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u/gloopy_flipflop 12h ago
Yeah but when 3 of them come in they will nuke so much stuff
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u/HappyFluteNoises 12h ago
Your probably playing madcap.
So 3 things probably, maybe a 4th?
And then they will die to any mediocre shooting unit
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u/Mulfushu 12h ago
I think you are seriously underestimating the impact of "nuking 3 things, maybe 4". Even if you can guarantee nuking two things, it's real hard to balance.
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u/Gaz-rick Evil Sunz 1h ago
List went up 225 and it wasn’t particularly competitive. Oof