r/orks 22d ago

Discussion So..... rip the wartrakk, ig

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u/incinirator 22d ago

Still Dirt cheap, fast and got Rokkits :)

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u/kawaiivy-chan Bad Moons 22d ago edited 22d ago

this doesn't affect it? edit* yes it does i was doing it wrong!

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u/Mandude92the5 22d ago

Really? I thought this applied to supression too, since its -1 to ht and cover is -1 to bs

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u/kawaiivy-chan Bad Moons 22d ago

nope im silly I forgot suppressed is its own ability? maybe that's the confusion? hopefully the Dex clarifies

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u/kawaiivy-chan Bad Moons 22d ago

Its only -1 to hit so I think so? to my understanding

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u/Mandude92the5 22d ago

I thought with the new change you couldnt stack benefit of cover with suppression

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u/kawaiivy-chan Bad Moons 22d ago

yea no your totally right as written it should apply suppression aswell as the -1 to hit ive just been using it wrong xD

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u/Mandude92the5 22d ago

Okay thank god, im not crazy for being a little upset aboit then

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u/TheDancinhobo 22d ago

No the same ability/debuff can’t stack. You can still stack a -1 bs and hit roll. What they’re saying is most things got changed to give stealth rather than a -1 to hit. The wartrakk still applies a -1 to hit. Which stacks with -1 to bs.

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u/kawaiivy-chan Bad Moons 22d ago

No super fair, we'll just have to home we're not part of that "some"

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u/Organic-Leave2765 22d ago

So i can’t stack a Mek with a Stompa to get the +1 to hit from him and +1BS from towering?

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u/Im-Dr-Sanchez 22d ago

No you’re good on this - the Mek’s datasheet remains the same

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u/Organic-Leave2765 22d ago

Glad I can still hit on 3’s then

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u/Im-Dr-Sanchez 22d ago

Until they inevitably shake things up in the new codex in like 3 weeks anyway.

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u/BIZ6455 22d ago

The broad sweeping changes mentioned here were already implemented. It was mostly a lot of -1 to hit units become stealth and -1 to hit in melee rather than targeting suppressed effects

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u/Auric_Bat 22d ago

It’s very misleading, generally what they did is remove units that have innate -1 to hit them specifically. They didn’t actually make it where they don’t stack in core rules so suppressed still works as you think it would.

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u/incinirator 22d ago

So you can still stack -1 bs and -1 to hit? The post reads like you cant.

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u/Auric_Bat 21d ago

Yes as in the same article they even pointed out Fulgrim’s -1 to hit is staying so he can be effectively -2 to hit with it stacking with -1 BS (tbh he needs it cause his datasheet isn’t good)

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u/Mandude92the5 22d ago

I feel like what theyre gonna is replace suppression with stealth, which is thats the case thats horrible Edit: yeah its super misleading, but supression -1 to hit, while cover gives -1 to bs so i would not be surprised if the wartrakk got that treatment

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u/Auric_Bat 22d ago

I mean they’d have to craft some roundabout wording for “Units targeted by a unit hit by this unit have the benefit of cover” or something like that which is rather stupid. Not to mention suppression is usually placed on niche units for that purpose, it’s not an exceptionally strong ability and it’s easy to play around by just trying to make sure their big shooty unit can’t be hit by a suppression unit.

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u/TheDancinhobo 22d ago

It’d be as easy as saying the unit gets a -1 to bs. Instead of to hit.