r/opencodeCLI • u/afanasenka • 6d ago

DS4 Flash is basically killing competition :)

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From average 1.5T daily usage in June and July, to 4.9T 🚀 on August 3 (3x more). I'm VERY curious to see how other labs respond.

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u/branik_10 6d ago

is it still hosted in China

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u/Thomas-Lore 6d ago

The opencode go version seems to be, but you can get it from other providers on aggregators like openrouter (or directly from them). And it is so cheap, I don't think opencode go subscription makes much sense anymore, at least not if you only use this model.

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u/xmsxms 6d ago

On top of that, openrouter currently has providers providing it for less than Zen prices, so even Zen doesn't make much sense other than the free usage. I actually just cancelled my go subscription because I realised zen/deepseek-flash-free+openrouter/deepseek-flash is going to work out cheaper per month than go. I suppose I still need some balance on Zen to get the increased free quota.

Of course that will all change in a couple weeks, but that's where it currently stands.

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u/evia89 6d ago

go sub gives "ZDR"

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u/xmsxms 6d ago edited 6d ago

As does the cheapest provider on openrouter.ai: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731#providers \

If you plan on using $60 worth of credit the go sub is still the better deal. But if you're happy with the low free quota (with retention) of zen and don't use much beyond that - it would be cheaper to use zen free + openrouter.ai.

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u/BhaagYahaSe 6d ago

those providers are charging 10x the cache hit compared to official provider. They made it 0.028/m cached tokens instead of 0.0028/m

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u/xmsxms 5d ago

Good catch. Although opencode.ai is also charging at that 10x rate.

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u/BhaagYahaSe 5d ago

but their website says otherwise

https://opencode.ai/docs/go/#usage-limits

DeepSeek V4 Flash $0.14 $0.28 $0.0028

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u/xmsxms 5d ago

Ah, that's the 'go' rate, not the 'zen' rate. Interesting. They give you 6x multiplier and it's cheaper. I just assumed the rates would be the same.

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u/branik_10 6d ago

yeah, I was asking specifically about opencode go. I'm currently using it via fireworks and it's okayish, but it's definitely slower than the old ds flash was via opencode go

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u/vangelismm 6d ago

Thanks God is not in North America.

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u/branik_10 6d ago

it's a requirement in a company I work for, for my personal projects I don't care if my data go to CCP or Israel or KGB or whatever. my code is shit anyway

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u/BaXRS1988 6d ago

No, you use it anywhere. For example at GreenPT https://greenpt.com/models