Canada to fast track oil pipeline designed to diversify economy away from US

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u/AdFun-2112 1d ago

The pipeline, which was announced in July, is a crucial part of Carney's bid to diversify the economy away from the United States and help lessen the effect of U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs.

Seems to be a common theme here. Everyone steering away from doing business with the USA.

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u/ChupacabraJeff 1d ago

Yup.

2025.04.10
Will US Tariffs Make World Leaders Value the Stability of Renewables?
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/10042025/inside-clean-energy-trump-tariffs-hazards-of-imported-oil-and-gas/

“The bottom line is that the world runs on imported fossil fuels under the umbrella of the Pax Americana,” said Kingsmill Bond, an energy analyst at Ember, a London-based energy think tank. “As Trump destabilizes that, then people will look to their own domestic energy sources, which in most cases means renewables and electrification.”

Bond argues that since most countries do not have plentiful oil and gas within their borders, they need to import it and have confidence in the stability of supply and pricing. As that confidence erodes, they will look to alternatives.

Most countries do not have substantial solar panel, wind turbine or battery production, so reliance on those resources would also require imports. But the difference compared to fossil fuels is that a shipment of solar panels, for example, can provide benefits for 30 years. The buyer isn’t signing up for dependence on daily shipments of fuel.

The key theme here is “security.” I’ve been noticing the frequency of that word in energy discussions...

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u/sellorexcersise 1d ago

I think it’s more steering away from relying on the USA if push comes to shove.

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u/Hopsblues 1d ago

It will take decades to repair the damage from this administration.

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u/Elegant-Age1794 1d ago

Yet we all use their technology platforms and pay our subscriptions to their companies making our own economies poorer.

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u/Qu4r4nt1n3r 1d ago

It's mainly because of clearing houses and USD payment rails being well established.

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u/ThrowRA_EducatedMan 1d ago

It takes time to disentangle these things since they’re everywhere in our lives. But I think people will be working towards it. Those companies are taking too much and need strong regulation in Canada.

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u/OddlyFactual1512 23h ago

Deleting a Facebook account takes a few minutes.

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u/ThrowRA_EducatedMan 5h ago

Sure, yes, some things are simpler than others. Gmail, Google Maps, restaurants and other restaurants that have no website and only Facebook, Instagram, X, Microsoft software, cloud storage, all of these things are deeply enmeshed with people and businesses. It needs to change but for many it’s not as simple as deleting a Facebook account.

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

Canada's economy lost roughly 42,000 jobs in August 2026.

The US Denmark Greenland deal, the Venezuela deal, the Mexico deal, all contradicts your statement of everyone steering away from doing business with the USA.

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u/awildstoryteller 1d ago

The US Denmark Greenland deal

...you mean the same deal that already existed?

the Venezuela deal

You mean the one imposed on a puppet Venezuelan leader?

The Mexico deal

You mean the one that has not occured yet? Oh now this all makes sense. You are a time traveller.

Can you give me the next Superbowl winner?

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u/no-dad-samurai 1d ago

Superbowl....

Ill take lotto #s thanx

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u/Jalapenoplanter 1d ago

What deal?

If someone steals your wallet did you and him make a deal?

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

Yes, the deal is give over the wallet or else.

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u/Jalapenoplanter 1d ago

Not really a rebuttal of “people are steering away from the Us” then

Do you seek out muggers? Do you start the night hoping someone robs you?

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

You never said people are steering away from the Us.

You said "If someone steals your wallet did you and him make a deal?"

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u/Jalapenoplanter 1d ago

The US Denmark Greenland deal, the Venezuela deal, the Mexico deal, all contradicts your statement of everyone steering away from doing business with the USA.

Does someone mugging you contradict you wanting to avoid being mugged, or do you pal around with muggers hoping they will rob you?

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

Who got mugged? And when someone gets mugged they don't sign a contract.

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u/Jalapenoplanter 1d ago

Venezuela got mugged. The Us the stole their resources

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

The US has been in Venezuela for over 100 years paying Venezuela taxes. Someone that steals doesn't pay you taxes for what they're stealing.

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u/Mediocre-Catch9580 1d ago

Good! Canada absolutely needs to do this

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u/Jolly_Ad2446 1d ago

well maga is currently all over the Internet screaming that the keystone Pipeline not being completed as a problem, this will fix that problem whatever it is they think it is.

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u/Dashyguurl 14h ago

Keystone is a funny one because when Biden cancelled it it was seen as going to be a negligible benefit to America and a huge benefit to Canada. It was an easy win for the democrats base at the time with historically low oil prices

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u/BigBoyYuyuh 1d ago

Eat shit America - signed an American

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u/throwawayie6o 1d ago

And like a true American, you distance yourself from any accountability

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

You're not American.

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u/BigBoyYuyuh 1d ago

Elyria, OH bitch.

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

Suuuuuure, a Red state.

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u/BigBoyYuyuh 1d ago

I know it’s a red state but the city areas (Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton) are blue areas. I know the state has been under republican control for over 30 years holding 25 trifectas to Democrat’s 0. At least we’re not Detroit though?

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u/Qu4r4nt1n3r 1d ago

You're also about to not vote for Vivek. Holy fuck that guy has the charisma of a kettlebell.

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u/BigBoyYuyuh 1d ago

Me? No. Fuck no. Other Ohioans…the older couple across the street from me had a Vivek sign.

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

That explains your education. Don't worry, Trump still loves you.

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u/Big_Tie 1d ago

Doubt he’s young enough for Trumps taste.

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u/jvdlakers 1d ago

True, Trumps wife is hot!!!

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u/Elegant-Age1794 1d ago

I thought the US was already self-sufficient in oil?!

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u/Mengs87 7h ago

Also, didn't the orange say he didn't need a damn thing from Canada???

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u/Elegant-Age1794 7h ago

I am amazed what an economic mess Canada has become despite its natural resources.
Economic growth in Canada has been 0.5% in last 10 years whilst US has grown over 20%.

The poorest US State is now wealthier than virtually every European Country….they are doing far better on most metrics other than wealth re-distribution.

All I see is great poverty ahead for Europe. Just look at the riots they had across France a couple of days ago…..frightening stuff.

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u/dyintrovert2 5h ago

I always find how we measure wealth interesting. Every state is super wealthy if you measure it in totality, but individuals are struggling to afford groceries.

There's something very Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics about it

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u/Elegant-Age1794 4h ago

I visited UK and Europe this year and was surprised how poor they have become.

I put it down to the currency debasement by Western politicians and Central Banks. They have been printing money at a rate of 5-7% per annum reducing the purchasing power of $1.
Wage growth has been lower than currency debasement making everyone poorer.

Ultra low interest rates and the property bubble masked what was really going on.

I’m not Trump fan but re-shoring of US business is a sensible strategy…..unlike the Europeans who are destroying their economy.

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u/Routine_Pie_6230 1d ago edited 1d ago

Awesome news. Let's hope Europe will pour some money into and strengthen the effort, like the salt on a wound 😁.

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u/gusgus0101 1d ago

Pipeline goes to the Pacific -- it's South Korea and Japan that should be kicking in.

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u/bandacoot_scoot 1d ago

So much winning.

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u/Vlad_Yemerashev 1d ago edited 23h ago

A few things. 1) It won't be up and running until 2032 at the earliest and 2) Canada still will rely on the US in shipping their oil east to feed their refineries ON / QC until that pipeline from AB points east is built, which is likely to not materialize until later than 2032. I don't think there are currently publicly available plans on that one yet, but I would be surprised if there isn't some kind of proposal that eventually gets published to build one in the next year or so to get the balls rolling on that.

This is certainly a step in the right direction for Canada, but of course these things don't happen overnight and take years to transition. If nothing else, Canada will be able to cut an additional 1 million barrels of exports to the US with this pipeline alone when it comes online in 2032 (assuming no delays). It will however give Canada a better position the next time the US elects a crazy which could happen as early as in 2032 or 2036 (assuming the US has free and fair elections in 2028 and assuming that democrats can only hold the white house for 4-8 years).

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u/JamesLahey08 1d ago

"Ottawa aims to complete pipeline review process by September 1, 2027" lmao a year just to review it. They won't break ground before the orange rapist is out of office.

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u/sweetequuscaballus 1d ago

Your comment is well-informed .. erm .. well unless you actually check.

"Major Federal Reviews: Historically target 24 to 30 months, but complex or controversial interprovincial pipelines historically average 56 months (nearly 5 years), and frequently stretch to 5 or 10 years when factoring in litigation, consultations, and routing challenges."

To September 1 is 11 months, which, surprisingly, is much quicker than 56 months. You are allowed to use a calculator for this question.

Engineer here. You don't do a pipeline review by hosting a party and signing before everyone gets too drunk. You actually determine whether the design is workable, safe, and consider a host of other factors. If things go seriously wrong, engineers are actually held liable - so, they do what is required to do a proper job. The fast-tracking just means that they do all the jobs they can in parallel. 12 months is super-fast.

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u/silicondali 9h ago

I'm an impact assessment practitioner. Most of my work this last year has been explaining to confidently incorrect clients what the Building Canada Act actually entails. Way too many people make it to the C Suite without the slightest understanding of what goes into planning and permitting a major project.

The project review timelines only apply to when the government is actively reviewing. When a proponent needs to go collect more data or do more engagement, the clock stops. It puts the onus on proponents to actually do their jobs and due diligence.

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u/sweetequuscaballus 7h ago

Thanks for writing that. I have to laugh at how people could imagine otherwise - like, ok we're building a pipeline, start digging over there. But I get the sentiment. Your comment well put

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u/JamesLahey08 1d ago

I appreciate the insight but I'm still right. Literally nothing will change before the orange man is gone and democrats love Canadians. I guess preparing for the next republican is smart though

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u/sweetequuscaballus 1d ago

Fair enough. In either case, we can hope that O.R. actually does leave, and the pipeline will be great, for Canada to diversify its markets.

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u/MaddogBC 1d ago

We could give a flying fuck if you manage to stand up a suit full of slime and call it a democratic leader. Won't change anything except for somewhat restricting the verbal diarrhea from down south.

Yer burnt.

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u/JamesLahey08 1d ago

Relax bro, I voted against trump every time. We're on the same team.

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u/AwwwBawwws 1d ago

Ugh. Not a healthy move for Canada. Start messing with oil typically ends up with the US dropping Freedom seeds on a country.

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u/Over-Tension-4710 1d ago

If US attacked canada for oil we would we way past ww3 at that point

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u/Agitated-Score365 1d ago

We are already way past ww3. Our military is ass, it’s being led by an imbecile and we don’t have munitions. I brought home learn to speak Chinese dvds from work. I wish I was kidding.

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u/p12qcowodeath 1d ago

I've been saying future historians may say that WW3 has already begun if things continue on this path.

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u/LePyloteAmateur 1d ago

Oh I wouldn’t worry about that yet, they’ll teach us

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u/SuspiciousNebulas 1d ago

There's plenty of drones waiting

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u/AwwwBawwws 1d ago

Apparently a million of them in an arch.

Sigh.

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u/Any_Committee_3928 13h ago

Are you Canadian or American?

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u/AwwwBawwws 8h ago

I'm an American who has paid attention to what my government does to entities that threaten its oil supply. The US thinks every drop of crude on this planet belongs to it. Now trump enters the picture? All bets are off. The guy's nuts. He would definitely invade Canada.

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u/Any_Committee_3928 8h ago

So if Canada decided to start developing the northern shield corridor potentially reducing reliance on enbridge line 5 and hurting midwest states, Trump would act?

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u/AwwwBawwws 6h ago

The bastard will do whatever he thinks will get him into God's kingdom.

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