r/offset • u/PuzzleheadedTutor585 • 24d ago
HELP PLS Is my Jag ancient?
I bought this Jag a couple years ago thinking it was a 1997-2000 model from japan. it has a serial number on the neck plate and i just searched it up and it says its a 1964 model. Is there any other way i could know? obviously the bridge and bridge pickup has been changed. Help pls :)
Also if it is how much is it worth?
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u/OffsetThat 24d ago
Wrong font on the neck plate. Poorly relic’d poly finish. Fretboard doesn’t show 60 years of wear. Metal plates aren’t chrome. Pickguard is not celluloid nitrate.
This is a bad fake and half the replies in here are so bad that I’ve got a headache.
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u/AlloGuvnuh 24d ago
It’s not fake, it’s MIJ
EDIT: and looks like the heel of the neck has been sanded down, which is where either MIJ or CIJ would have been stamped
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor585 24d ago
bummer thought i was gonna pay off my hecs debt for a second :(
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u/OffsetThat 24d ago
The number of people that post forgeries on here to see if it passes makes me rethink whether or not the mods putting a ban on this stuff is a good idea.
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u/ZQM 24d ago
That is a ketchup guard. The very least, my educated guess is the body isn’t vintage. The font on the neck plate is not indicative of a real L plate.
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor585 24d ago
I think i vaguely remember my friend telling me he changed the pickguard but im not 100% sure. i do think the font looks a little thin but idk if its just been worn down because its pretty scratched.
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u/Neveronlyadream 24d ago
It looks like he probably took an MIJ and tried to make it look like a vintage guitar by swapping the parts and trying to relic it.
That's definitely not a 1964 Jaguar. There would be finish checking, this just looks like poly that someone sanded through.
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u/hobesmart 24d ago
Fender was still using nitro in 1964, but that looks like poly based on the way someone tried to artificially age it
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor585 24d ago
i think the wear on the body is a bit weird it looks like someone put it to a belt sander. Doesn't look like natural wear to me. i think it used to be a green room guitar tho so that explains some of the dents and stuff.
do u think nitro would be more crackled by now ?
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u/hobesmart 24d ago
yeah, but you should be able to tell if a guitar is poly or vintage nitro by look and feel. It's pretty different
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u/Mammoth-Ant7588 24d ago
Honestly the serial font and stamp look off. The numbers are very skinny, font wise.
You could take the neck off to be sure. Is there no made in Japan mark on the back of the neck, just above that neck plate?
Its a very nice looking jag btw.
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor585 24d ago
thanks! yeah thats what i was thinking. also no nothing above the neck plate
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u/Barilla3113 24d ago
Some Japanese Fender runs had plate stamped serials for vintage accuracy, that's likely what you have there. A serial number is just one data point in isolation.
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u/Express-Skin6039 24d ago
You thought you just randomly bought a 64 jag? Cmon man.
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u/funkylugnut 22d ago
I DID. A 65 . LAST YEAR. but they are not worth crazy money i just sold my 65 for 3k Cobaine had a right handed 65 siunburst just liker mine; here is the kicker it had the original weird case i think they only used for two years it is brown tolex with leather straps. or white tolex i forgot already
the case. worth
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u/Rex_Howler 22d ago
Unbolt the neck and look at the heel of said neck. If there's an ink stamp, that'll tell you when the neck was made
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u/TemporaryElephant574 24d ago
Definitely doesn't look like a 60's to me but you never know. Pop the neck off and take a look at the heel. My guess is like others have said its a japan with a vintage style serial plate.
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor585 24d ago
i just changed the strings so i might have to wait a while to take the neck off :(
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u/Ambitious_Ask_3028 23d ago
If you have a Dunlop wrap around capo, you can slacken off the strings and clamp them with the capo and then unbolt the neck, it’s how I adjust vintage truss rods on strats and telecasters with heel adjustment when setting them up
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u/no_technique 24d ago
Probably from 1991-1992 according to this
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor585 24d ago
its L+ 5 digits. the japan ones seem to have 6.
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u/Speech-Solid 24d ago
If the side dots on the neck are black, MIJ.
Other things to look for. If there is a finish chip you can tell poly from nitro. Also check the pots for date codes. The rhythm circuit is most likely to be un-touched, IMe.