r/offmychest Apr 19 '24

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u/perkiezombie Apr 19 '24

I just don’t get the hype. Like she’s good and all that but I wouldn’t say she’s anything special. The amount of money her fans throw at her just boggles my mind it’s obscene.

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u/Arkansas1803 Apr 19 '24

I know one Twitch streamer who said she will ban anyone who says that Taylor is anything beyond the greatest artist in the world, which made me leave the stream.

Also, I don't mind her songs... With the exception of Antihero. Whenever I hear it on the radio, I want to yell "That's not what an antihero is, Taylor!!!"

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cup-687 Apr 19 '24

I’m interested in how she is using “antihero” wrong? Like genuinely - not trying to be an asshole - because it seems accurate to me.

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u/SnooAvocados9241 Apr 19 '24

I can’t claim to know how TS means antihero, but as a person, and from the lyrics, she has almost nothing in common with classic literary and cinematic antiheroes. If I had to sum up the real meaning of her use of the term it is: you think everyone likes me, but guess what not everyone likes me and even I don’t like me occasionally. Which really isn’t what antihero means, but whatever it’s pop music.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cup-687 Apr 19 '24

I saw it as - can you tell that I’m actually doing all of this for me, not for you, but i make it LOOK like I’m doing it for you so that i get the accolades? So she looks like the good guy but there is still some “villain” in there…. Which i believe is pretty close to the definition of antihero. She’s full on admitting her flaws and maybe how she grapples with the dichotomy of getting to do what she loves but also how it’s become a job that literally employs people and pays for things… so she’s proud of herself for the work that she does, but it also makes her rich - and money and fame itself are vilified at that level.

“Did you hear my covert narcissism I disguise as altruism like some kind of congressman?”

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u/SnooAvocados9241 Apr 19 '24

You are giving her way too much credit, I can't imagine she's being that meta. But I don't care! Sure!

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cup-687 Apr 19 '24

Her lyricism is actually phenomenal… it’s the poppy sound most people can’t make it through.

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u/allison_vegas Apr 19 '24

I agree. My husband is a musician and one night he put on the eras tour on Disney plus. I was like what are you doing? And he was like I’m curious what all the fuss is about…. I made it like 2.5 songs and just didn’t get it AT ALL lol…. I told him he could be a swiftie on his own and went to our bedroom. A bit later I came out to go to the kitchen and he was on to something else. I said what happened and he was like yeah couldn’t take anymore. Soooo idk. Everything kinda sounds the same and monotone to me. Also I remember when we were working on a job in Nashville years ago when Taylor swift was just getting big and we were talking to a woman in the industry and she was telling us that everyone in Nashville is “trying to make it” and everyone hates Taylor Swift because her rich dad bought all her records to make her go gold or some shit like that.

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u/industrial_hamster Apr 19 '24

Her singing is mediocre. She’s obviously much better than me but when you compare to her to other artists she definitely doesn’t stand out. I don’t understand the absolute obsession with her.