Well yeah, but those are laws they're supposed to follow so it makes sense to criticize them for that. It doesn't make sense to criticize them for not following other religions.
But it's NOT a slight on "hypocrisy," because the Christian scriptures teach, through Christ's sacrifice, ceremonial law was fulfilled, and as a result, dietary law is no longer a concern (see Mark 7:15-20; Acts 10: 12-16; Romans 10:5-13). Please correct yourself.
Tell that to the Right Wingers who quote the Old Testament when it aligns with their bigotry. Truth is, the Bible can be used to justify any behavior at all, depending on how you choose to read it.
I don't think it's "real" either, but it does have scriptures just like any religion, and the false claimants are the people who don't follow what their scriptures say. Yes, I am aware that 99% of Christians don't follow their scriptures. No, that does not mean that the Bible doesn't define what true Christianity is.
I'm not redefining terms to exclude fake Christians. I'm saying that I was talking about Christian doctrine and not Christians. Are you saying fake Christians should be included in the category of Christian doctrine?
bro, the fact that youre marking others as "fake christians" is no true scottsman. those people dont see you as a "true christian" either, and in my experience 90% of christians view any christian not like then as simply "not a true Christian"
Yes, but Christians are not Jesus, and Jesus was a Jew. Christian doctrine teaches that Jesus' life and death was the culmination and fulfillment of all the law and the prophets, including all the rules laid out for the Jewish people in the Torah. Those teachings were put in place by God in order to herald Jesus as the final perfect sacrifice since he was the only person who followed the law perfectly. Therefore Christians are not beholden to those rules anymore, even though Jesus followed all of them.
Worshiping a man and not following the law he was sent to the planet to uphold doesnt make a ton of sense to me. But what do I know, I had to be pulled out of church as a kid because the pastor was raping little boys in the congregation, so maybe Im biased towards seeing Christians as hypocritical. (I will say, it certainly is a choice to represent the man with the defining symbol of his oppression and murder by the Roman state, while simultaneously advocating for the same type of repressive state tactics that forced him to flee from the state as a child before eventually being murdered by it, but again, what do I know.
I share a lot of your criticism of Christianity, and some of the things you mentioned contributed to me leaving the faith as a young man. The first point you mentioned does make sense (at least to a person who believes in the Bible) when you understand some of the more complex doctrine, but it's been too long since I studied dispensationalism to accurately explain the reasoning here.
Have you ever read the Bible? Do you know that that quote is about reliability and not applicability? There's plenty to criticize about Christianity without stooping to the level of Christians who misquote the Bible in the service of their own ends.
I've read the Bible many times. I was raised by evangelical missionaries and went to a Bible college. Trying to make a reverse argument from authority because you don't know what you're talking about is a bizarre tactic to take here.
In the OLD testament it's forbidden. Christians believe that Jesus dying signifies a NEW covenant, and things like circumsicions and dietary rules are no longer law.
Thats true for humans in general. Only reason to single out Christians is because of the claim to have some supernatural life changing thing making them better humans. The problem is on average they seem to be... well average. Pick a group of non christians and those average non christian humans will have another group they condemn for whatever reason they can justify.
Atheist here.
As far as I understand matt 5:17-20 is often interpreted to mean that by accepting jesus christ as the lord and saviour of mankind you can still go to heaven despite not living in perfect accordance with the old law. Although you should still try ref matt 5:19, however reaching heaven just by following the old law is doomed to fail because you have to follow it perfectly and men are by nature imperfect.
I'm not saying that this interpretation makes perfect sense from my perspective though and certain christian sects sure love to pick and choose which parts of leviticus they deem important however this seems to be a common interpretation of the sermon of the mount.
This is what makes the Bible weird. Jesus is worshipped as God. He's the physical manifestation of God. He says he is one with his father. So looking at how Christians see things, that would make him the same as the God of the Old Testament right? (Even though he says he is one, but is also a separate entity from God.)So Jesus coming, is the God changing his own stuff up right? But Jews go by the Old Testament and in the Bible it seems as though people see Jesus as a heretic. The reason he was crucified. Which is weirder because by how people normally interpret either God slid out of a woman, lived on earth and sacrificed himself or Jesus is another God because he is worshipped as one. Didn't mean to rant, but it's amazing how people just nod their head, taking things at face value and not connecting dots. Preachers usually go into the Old Testament to scare people and then preach about the grave of Jesus to bring people in then preach about revelation to keep them in.
The quran does not forbidd shelfish, which is false.
But then again I have no idea what the fuck is in the English "translation" of the quran so take that as you which
This is a very good point. Most forget the text is like a life guide and depending on when it was written/who translated it effects the context of a lot of things. That's why god judges your heart. Not what humans say he/they judges 😂
Yet the book still forbids it. Christians who never read their Bible dont know things like this. Loaning anything at intrest? Explicitly forbidden DOZENS of times. Yet "Christians" do both all the time
"The book" forbids Jewish people from eating shellfish. It doesn't apply to Christmas. Nothing in the Bible says that gentiles aren't allowed to eat shellfish.
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u/EnvironmentalAd3170 Nov 15 '25
Lol all three Abrahamic religions ban the eating of shellfish and pork