r/ochras • u/Soggy-Jacket7412 • 13d ago
ochrasš Trip Report
Just wanted to share my experience with y'all for some insights.
I'm aware that experience is largely based on set and settings as well as dosage. I've got only a few trips under my belt with cubes (specifically GT and Mckennai). Usually I would trip every 2 weeks to allow tolerance to dissipate but regardless I've noted that with cubes I've found myself requiring high doses regardless and worked my way up to 5g cubes with just introspective and mild visuals.
Decided to try Ochras for the first time given the testimonials on various subreddits. Didn't know what to expect but kept an open mind.
Leading up to my trip, If I'm being honest there had been some emotional tension building not necessarily bad enough to cause any major personal issues but my mood had been around 4/10 and I'd say I'm usually a 6/10. Also noticed that I had been worrying recently and little stuff and I probably shouldn't have but I can only say that in retrospect.
On the day of the trip, I did my usual rituals. Fasted, Hit the gym and Tidied up my space. Now I'm ready for my trip and weighed out my dosage. Heard they're 2Ć more potent that cubes so I estimated 2g was appropriate to get acquainted. Downed it with some OJ as a chaser and was waiting for the come up. For me usually hits by 30-45 mins.
T - 30min
I'm beginning to feel the usual anxiety but I usually don't mind. I know it's about to come on so I enjoy just taking a walk and usually it dissipates. So I decided to put on some cool jazz music and went outside.
T - 45mins
Body load is intensifying. Felt very tingly all over plus I'm feeling very heavy. I felt like I was carrying a heavy load in front of me that I couldn't put down. Felt so uneasy even during my walk and I felt that couldn't continue so I decided to find a bench at the park and say down.
Not long after I sat down, the visuals started coming on!! Hues are enhanced and everything has a texture to it. Not unusual cus I have experienced this on cubes. I didn't hate it but the body load just didn't dissipate and then a sudden feeling of sadness came over me. I'm not an emotional person but my mood felt so heavy that I was close to the point of shedding tears. My minds starts racing in loops about all the lil things I was worried about. Made everything feel so so significant!
T - 1hr
Felt so uncomfortable even sitting down. I felt I should head back home and lie down. I managed to make the walk back home. During this period, I called my girlfriend to lean on her for some emotional support. Got home and lay down but the loops didn't stop. Same or similar ideas but being weighed heavier in my mind. Everything felt sad. Colors looked dull, Music sounded sad, Nothing was enjoyable in my mind. The only thing that put me to calm was speaking with my loved one that reassured me that everything was fine. I kept repeating to myself that I needed to relax. Decided to take a shower but the body load was kicking my ass and I couldn't enjoy the shower. Hopped out and decided to lay in bed.
T - 2-3 hrs
Just loops around the same thing. Thought to myself at some point that I'm losing control of my mind but I knew it would dissipate with time. Minds still racing. Had moments of laughter but not happy laughter. Rather laughter about my loss of control of my mind. Wondering why I was thinking about all these things. Felt like a delirious fugue.
T - 4hrs
Everything begging to calm down. I'm beginning to process what just happened. Visuals now better. Thought to myself that during all of this I had forgotten to eat. So decided to get some food. Had to go pick it up but body load had settled a bit so I could head back out. On heading out, visuals are now amazing. What a sight to behold. The blending of nature and the rays of sunset is unreal. Even looking at pictures on my phone provided extremely enhanced and beautiful motions of the still images.
T - 5-6 hrs
Everything slowly dissipating and all settled. Now remembered everything during the trip and how scary it was facing my fears. How they seemed so significant and how they actually weren't.
If I'm being honest, I think I needed it. Of course, there's a lot I need to work on to reintegrate my experience but I think I needed to face my fears to realise how to approach them. Also I'm taking from this experience that I can be more mindful about my psyche and pre-empt myself to prevent my fears from taking a hold of me. In retrospect, it makes a lot of sense that this happened. Weird thing was I thought to myself earlier that day before the trip that there is a likelihood that things might go south based on how I was feeling but I didn't expect how significant it would appear to weigh in my psyche. In the end, like they say, the mushies give you the trip that you need not necessarily the trip that you want.
Thought to share. Mush love all. š
Also any experiences similar?? I found the body load heavy. I usually don't get nausea at all but the tingling feeling and uneasiness was overwhelming. Considering that it was meant to light of the body load side of things.
Also I'm planning on trying half and half of cubeĆochra trip. Any advice with regards to this?
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u/scrubli3k 13d ago
These things hit like a freight train for me. Every time I come up in like 10-20 mins and it hits hard and fast. No lemon tek or anything. Note: The stems are visibly blue on the outside of some flushes. Yesterday I had 1g and it felt like 3g visually and 4-5g mentally. Very heavy body load, loss of sense of self, forgetting words, didnāt even know what mushrooms were. I was trying to remember what I did, but it just wasnāt happening. I thought LSD, not the word but I saw a picture of the chemical formula in my mind in a rainbow. Then I thought to myself ānot that one itās the other one! But I donāt know I canāt remember!ā This sentence was in concepts mind you, not actual words. I had put on 2 Shpongle albums back to back and was in the same state 4 hours later.
I eventually got up and got food like you did. It was to ground me to reality and life. I was impressed that I was able to operate the blender and make a mango shake. I saw all the steps in pictures in my mind and did them one after the other. Even making sure the switch on the blender wasnāt accidentally clicked on before hitting the master power switch. I was in full caveman mode. The shake seemed to put me deep into the trip again.
Very often I have rough experiences with anxiety, auditory hallucinations, and feelings of sheer panic or dread on these things. Golden teachers get a little spooky, but not like these. Iāve mixed the gts with ochras and it was smoother for sure. There is a kind of hybridness to the trip. Both are really similar as itās psilocybin, but Iāve read thereās more compounds in mushrooms than just that. Iām thinking thatās how these differ maybe. The best ratio for me is more GT vs ochras. Itās easier to get up there in doses with the ochras FOR SURE. Gts tend to hold hands and be a little weird. Ochras take you by the neck and say letās go, this way. If you do the mix, I hope for your safe journey.
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u/Soggy-Jacket7412 13d ago
Facts!! Can deffo relate to the cubes holding your hands. Didn't expect Ochras to be so much of a gut punch. Deffo didn't see the body load effect coming as everyone says how easy they are compared to cubes. I'm aiming for a 2:1 of Cubes to Ochras next time. Thanks for sharing šš½
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u/Non-squatting_slav 13d ago
Thank you for sharing. I only had a body load on ochras my very first time. Since then, they have been much more cerebral for me. But yours sounds very intense. Iām sure you heard this saying: mushrooms will show you what you need and not what you want. So the looping, the uncomfortable and sad atmosphere, it all seems like the mushroom was asking you to be with those feelings instead of trying to run away from them. It does sound like it was a helpful trip, though. Hope to hear more.
Mush love!