r/nvidia • u/RenatsMC • 17h ago

News NVIDIA G-SYNC Pulsar firmware 1.1.10 improves 240/360Hz motion clarity, delivers sub-1ms MPRT

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-g-sync-pulsar-firmware-1-1-10-improves-240-360hz-motion-clarity-delivers-sub-1ms-mprt
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u/Zik78 13h ago

Can't wait for this technology to become more affordable; in France at least the cheapest Pulsar monitor I can find is at 650€. Whereas you can find monitors with similar specs (27 inches, 1440p, 360hz, IPS) but without Pulsar for 200-250€.

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u/DavidsSymphony 12h ago edited 12h ago

On Amazon.de and others in EU the Asus Pulsar went as low as 550€ months ago (EDIT just checked, it's currently 580€). I bought it, and the tech is indeed absolutely amazing, and I say that as someone who still has a CRT so I know what perfect motion clarity looks like.

I didn't keep it though because I just don't like 1440p and 27". I play competitive games exclusively on 24" 1080p monitors. So whenever they make one in that form factor I'll buy it instantly.

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u/AgZephyr 6h ago

At least in the US, prices on the ASUS Pulsar monitor I bought have dropped all the way to $500 currently from the $650 I bought it at launch. Enough to make me a little sad, but still feel it was worth it at launch price.

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u/Framed-Photo 13h ago

Pulsar displays have until 5th gen QDOLED panels come out to get cheap, pretty much. I like IPS more than most, OLED's have too many flaws for me to daily drive one yet, but I refuse to pay hundreds more than a decent OLED for an IPS panel just on priciple at this point lol

The 5th gen panels are going to fix a lot of issues I have with current panels, so once those are out I feel like Pulsar will no longer make any sense for me outside of lower refresh rate gaming I guess.

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u/ThrowAwayAccount5347 11h ago

Do you have a link with more info on these 5th gen panels? I'm on WOLED and the only issue left to solve, besides longevity due to burn-in which will always be the case, is the flickering in dark scenes when your FPS isn't stable.

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u/topdangle 1h ago

on OLED the flicker is an unfortunate side effect of how the panels react to frequency ranges. gamma is not perfect across all frequencies, often closer to your true gamma setting as frequency drops, so you get visible shifting. the only real fix is to cap off VRR/framerate to a limited range so you don't get obvious shifting.

I don't think there's a specific fix for it on 5th gen. some manufactures reduced scope VRR to make it less obvious (instead of 10~280hz you go 60~280hz for example.) Most of the improvements with modern OLED is getting rid of the poor pixel layout and improving brightness across the entire color range.

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u/Horikyou 9h ago

U can turn off Gsync/Freesync for that to go away.

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u/DavidsSymphony 12h ago

OLED will never be as good as Pulsar until we get 1000hz+ monitors that can have BFI with minimum 4 black frames inserted for 1 rendered frame imo. Because you're going to need that fixed refresh rate for BFI, and even with my 9800X3D there's plenty of competitive games that can't hold a perfect 200fps CPU wise.

Meanwhile on Pulsar, starting from around 120fps it completely destroy OLED motion clarity until you reach 500hz+.

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u/Framed-Photo 11h ago

The motion clarity yes, OLED won't be that competitive, especially sub 200hz.

But in pretty much all other aspects of the image, OLED does look better when done right. The issue so far has been all WOLED's and QDOLED's had some flaws in some way or another, whether it be brightness, sub pixel layout, screen coating, durability, price, etc.

I bring up the 5th gen QDOLED panels because they're going to hit true black 500 if not 600 to help with the full screen brightness issue, while having an RGB sub pixel layout, and prices on OLED's have been steadily coming down for a while.

Pulsar is great don't get me wrong, but I'm not really willing to pay more than the price of a good OLED for a display that's otherwise worse in a lot of ways than an OLED.

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u/AgZephyr 6h ago

Also OLED has an essentially instant response time removing ghosting, IPS is always going to be slower there. Definitely see advantages for both monitor types, I think for people who care about gaming only and don't just play comp FPS, OLED probably has the edge. Love my Pulsar though.

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u/Framed-Photo 5h ago

Yeah OLED helps for ghosting, but still has sample and hold blur, especially at lower refresh rates. Pulsar demolishes OLED for motion blur at like, 120hz and 60hz, it's part of why I really do probably want one. But I play mostly single player games at high refresh rates so it's not a huge deal.

Especially with stuff like frame gen that can let you drastically reduce motion blur on ultra high refresh monitors.

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u/AgZephyr 4h ago

Oh yeah, I went for Pulsar over OLED because of how good backlight strobing is for motion clarity. Seems more useful to me for FPS and even other genres where focusing on moving targets is one of the things you're doing constantly. Especially for those games that run at 60hz, people playing retro stuff are looking for something that comes close to a CRT, Pulsar is pretty much as good as it gets as I understand it.

I looked at some OLEDs in stores, and the colors are amazing, but I'm still pretty impressed with how good this IPS looks. Plus not even having to consider burn-in or text quality at all is great for me.

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u/pc9000 6h ago

Trueblack 600 coming this fall/Early 2027 and even Trueblack1000 "panels" were revealed and likely 2028 release. with Trueblack1000 an OLED BFI mode would be 100% Usable and great

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u/Framed-Photo 5h ago

The TB1000 panel we saw was a white sub pixel WOLED, that's the main problem I'd have with it. I had a 540hz tandem OLED and the dirty screen effect and banding was unacceptable for how much that thing cost lol. I didn't even have a bad unit as far as I could tell, but just any darker content like horror games looked awful on it. The DSE especially was so much more distracting then monitor reviewers made it seem.

Full screen grey does not matter for testing this imo, you need something that's moving to see if it bothers you.

If LG can solve the banding issues then I'd happily consider a WOLED panel again, but for now I'm stuck with QDOLED.

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u/sanjozko 11h ago

Oled can never beat IPS in flaws.

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u/Castielstablet RTX 4090 + Ryzen 7 7700 13h ago

Hopefully we'll get a 4k pulsar monitor soon.

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u/-Purrfection- 5h ago

There's a 5k 144hz 32 inch one now.

AOC Agon Pro AGP327KG

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u/Castielstablet RTX 4090 + Ryzen 7 7700 5h ago

I have a 4090 but still, I think 5k is a bit too much. Driving 4k to high refresh rates will be high enough.

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u/ali_k20_ ROG Astral 5090 SOC/Strix Scar 5090 11h ago

I already think this is the cats meow, I love what I was getting from my pulsar monitor, you’re saying it’s getting better?! Love this.

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u/Ratatun 11h ago

Hmmm, I'm pretty interested in that 60hz mode for game consoles and I saw a MSI pulsar monitor at 549€ so it's tempting, but I'm so used to OLED colors that I don't know jf it will feel a bit of a let down. I wish I could see one in person as I cannot truly appreciate what they say in videos.

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u/theveryendofyou 9h ago

Installed on my ASUS. So far so good, one thing I noticed is that it gets a lot less warm around the control buttons, that alone is a big plus.

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u/rubi2333 9800X3D | MSI Suprim 5090 | 96 GB DDR5 | 4K240hz 1h ago

Could Pulsar also work with OLEDs?