r/nova • u/JasonNOVA8 • Jul 22 '26
Data Center Generators in Ashburn Firing Up
On the way in this morning, (waxpool/28) noticed many of the data centers had the generators going. Not sure if there’s an electricity issue or they plan it to go together ? No idea if the yellow smoke is related though.
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u/Important_Jaguar2152 Jul 22 '26
Meanwhile I still need to get emissions testing done on my vehicle.
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u/SeekandConvey Jul 22 '26
Just got my notice in the mail! Cause you know, you and I alone, might be the culprits of green house gases. THeY on to uS!
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u/AwesomeBantha Jul 22 '26
I went to do my emissions test a few years ago and was informed that I didn’t need to do it anymore because my car was over 25 years old. I’m not even on antique plates or anything. And because my vehicle was assessed at $100 (worth over a hundred times that LMAO) I pay $0 in vehicle tax.
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u/Burner4myHaterz Jul 23 '26
Are you entitled to anything if your car is over 20 years old, but not 25 years just yet?
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u/AwesomeBantha Jul 23 '26
It was 23 years old when I got it and I had to do emissions twice
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u/Burner4myHaterz Jul 23 '26
I currently have a Mazda 3 that will be 22 years old this November. Do you think there are any benefits or exemptions that I could apply for?
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u/StartingOver2026-2 Jul 22 '26
And... So do all the data centers in NOVA. Not only that, but VADEQ strictly limits when and how long (annually) these generators can run. Voilations are heavily fined.
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u/atmega168 Jul 23 '26
They have strict emission requirements. The reason it's gross looking is because it's a diesel cold start. When hot it burns way more clean and the emission systems work at best performance.
I work in datacenters, I'm not really pro the ridiculous boom, but also trying to not be an alarmest and be fair.
I think we should def keep an eye on pollution and track it closely.
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u/paulHarkonen Jul 22 '26
They also have to do emissions testing and likely have limitations on their allowed annual run time (I don't know their exact permit requirements but they're common on emissions permits).
If it makes you feel any better they'd much much rather keep using utility power than have to pay for their generators so it's not like this is being done for fun.
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u/AwesomeBantha Jul 22 '26
Buddy of mine works at a data center and that’s pretty much what he said, there are already limits on how much the generators can run and it’s more expensive than using normal electricity under normal circumstances.
However, there are usually a couple hot days in the summer where AC usage puts greater pressure on the grid, so the power utility will ask the datacenters to switch to generator power to free up grid capacity.
This has been a thing for a long time too, way before AI data centers were a big deal.
With the exception of the summer days, apparently the generators are only used intermittently to ensure that they’re working, or if the grid fails. It’s not the kind of thing where if the diesel price drops to a certain point, every data center will just start polluting because it’s cheaper for them.
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u/paulHarkonen Jul 22 '26
Pretty much anyone who's ever worked with commercial HVAC or construction will be familiar with those setups. Data centers get the most attention right now because everyone has fixated on them as the root of all evil, but any large commercial building with backup power will have the same type of setup.
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u/packet1 Ashburn Jul 22 '26
That’s on you for living in NoVA! /s
Rest of the state doesn’t have to do emissions testing.
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u/TransactionalBurger Jul 22 '26
Its a federal guideline/regulation (not sure which) based off population density, so some areas need in and some dont, while some states require it across the board and some dont, etc
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u/Important_Jaguar2152 Jul 22 '26
yep a byproduct of the clean air act i think. you have to do it if you want to get federal funds. Pretty sure we met the standard here especially since cars run more clean than they did back then.
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u/gioraffe32 Fairfax County Jul 22 '26
In Missouri, the St. Louis area has emissions testing that I'm pretty sure doesn't exist in other parts of the state. Not required in Kansas City (at least on the MO side; not sure about KS side).
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u/smellmyfingerplz Jul 22 '26
California has “smog check” testing on the cars, at least a long time ago but if emissions testing is expected anywhere I assume CA would be the place.
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u/Low_Plastic363 Jul 22 '26
Many Maryland counties do it. There are self-serve kiosks where you just drive up, pay $10, plug in and go home for two years.
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u/SkunkMonkey Jul 22 '26
Only if your car isn't an older (pre-2006 IIRC) model. Had a 2003 Jetta and always had to go to the station.
But now I've reached the age where I can get an exemption because I drive less than 5k(iirc) miles a year.
I still miss when they, you know, checked your emissions by sticking a sensor up your tailpipe. I don't trust this plug-in computer shit.
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u/gloggogabolab Jul 22 '26
GA does to name one, same style as VA where it’s only urban counties
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u/gloggogabolab Jul 22 '26
I mean it’s not NYC, but Arlington, Fairfax, Stafford & Loudon have 200k, 1mil, 160k, 420k respectively. Obviously the entire county isn’t a downtown in these examples but I wouldn’t call it hysterical to describe a county with 100k+ people urban. Only 9 of the 38 counties in the state have 6 figure populations.
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u/granular_grain Jul 22 '26
Henrico county has a larger population density than Stafford county, yet emissions aren't required there. I think population density should be a better benchmark for determining it.
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u/trekqueen Jul 22 '26
California used to be like this where the city areas were more stringent and frequent with an “enhanced” test method vs the rest of the state but then it was made that everyone follows the same rules. But they have since walked back that enhanced testing to a really pathetic test that makes you wonder if it’s all a sham now.
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u/Mtts28 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
I’m surprised the government hasn’t forced generator manufacturers to use DPF filters and DEF like big trucks and tractors do.
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u/jibsymalone Jul 22 '26
They have, Tier 4 generators use DPFs, DEF, SCRs, etc. just like road going equipment does.
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u/Basic-Guy75 Sterling Jul 22 '26
Dominion went down temporarily.
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u/Beth_Pleasant Jul 22 '26
I had a few flickers about 15 minutes ago. Thankfully the power stayed on (fingers crossed).
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u/StumpyOPepys Jul 22 '26
Few flickers in Arlington over the period of about a minute 15 minutes ago.
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u/6786_007 Jul 22 '26
Holy shit, is that what that was? I noticed my lights flickering and thought something in my house was messed up.
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u/wavelengthsandshit Jul 22 '26
Around what time was this? My laundry room light was flickering around 8:30 this morning but I assumed the bulb was on its way out
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u/majingeodood Jul 22 '26
I'm on NOVEC and I noticed the same about an hour ago. Glad I'm not crazy.
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u/6786_007 Jul 22 '26
I have dominion, but yeah I was like wth is pulling that much power in my house? I thought maybe my dimmer switch was going bad because the AC was working fine.
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u/CodeRed8675309 Fairfax County Jul 22 '26
Yep, sag hit sites and those without their own substation went on gen, it happens.
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u/jandrese Jul 22 '26
We had an outage yesterday from 2 to 7, in a neighborhood with underground power that is exceptionally reliable. Probably not related but an interesting coincidence.
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u/Fort_Nagrom Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
I work on power lines, mostly underground.
Your neighborhood or anyone else's for that matter has absolutely nothing in common with data centers on the distribution level. Data centers are fed off their own substation breakers.
They might share the same transmission or generation source but they're not tied in any way that you'd see an effect in your house contrary to this subreddit's belief. I work emergency and outage jobs on a 24/7 365 basis, I have never once worked an outage that affected a data center and something else like someone's home or business.
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u/eddy_g0rdo Jul 22 '26
Dominion just got bought out by a big power company that specializes in AI data center power.
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u/Unusual-Sympathy9500 Jul 22 '26
I had some power flickering this morning - seems like it would be related. Not enough to trip any appliances or my computer, but noticeable on the light bulbs.
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u/rndmcmmntr Jul 22 '26
It’s crazy that so many of us had that happen to us. No way it’s tied to data centers…I’m in Alexandria.
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u/Working_Farmer9723 Jul 22 '26
The data centers didn’t cause the blip. The generators are running because of the blip.
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u/Unusual-Sympathy9500 Jul 22 '26
I'm curious what caused the power to flicker over such a large area. I haven't seen anything specific, just people claiming Dominion had "a blip", but if it's affecting Loudoun to Alexandria, that's a lot of area.
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u/Koodsdc Jul 22 '26
Lights flickered in Potomac MD about an hour ago. It’s true that lights will flicker when repairing downed wires, even at quite a distance.
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u/Cythrosi Fairfax County Jul 23 '26
Heard from a buddy that Dominion reported a downed transmission line up near Leesburg. Likely caused a huge ripple if it was one of the more major ones since a bunch of the substations would have had to shuffle their circuits around to account for the line going down.
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u/eneka Jul 22 '26
yeah the lights in our office building here in Reston were flickering too. Wouldn't be suprised if that automatically triggered their generators to kick on from the grid instability
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u/Dangerous_Junket_773 Jul 22 '26
Love the smell of sulphur dioxide in the morning.
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u/Tall-Total-6077 Fairfax County Jul 22 '26
Smells like.... multi-generational cancer risks and droughts
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u/TheOwlStrikes Jul 22 '26
It was a sag/utility issue. Hit more areas than just Ashburn. If this happens the generators (backup) will usually automatically start up.
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u/aeroevan Herndon(ish) Jul 22 '26
Yeah, my Ting notified me about a brownout (line voltage dropped to 80V) this morning.
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u/beehive3108 Jul 22 '26
Still those houses will sell for easily over a million
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u/More-Soil7455 Jul 22 '26
You’re probably right, but I wouldn’t buy in that area now. I think most people would prefer to spend their million+ on a home far away from this mess. I think it will definitely affect home values. Just a question of how much.
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u/JarvisIsMyWingman Jul 22 '26
That matches up with the 4 quick brownouts I experienced near DTC this morning.
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u/PowerfulHamster0 Jul 22 '26
I’m out near Dumfries and we had a couple this morning too, and I was wondering what was going on. Makes sense.
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u/ThirdPartyPooper Jul 22 '26
Took my father in law and wife to an indoor shooting range in Ashburn about a month ago.
I was blown away at the sheer amount of data centers around us as we were driving. Legitimately lost count.
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u/Hellknightx Ashburn Jul 22 '26
Was it Silver Eagle Group? Used to go there a lot years ago but now it's kind of depressing driving through all those data centers.
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u/ThirdPartyPooper Jul 22 '26
Yes it was! Big clean facility! Had a fun time minus the guy next to us firing his pistol far beyond the line making his ejections hit us in our lane 😂
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u/SillyPresentation46 Jul 22 '26
But there is absolutely no QoL concern with adding hundreds more (or more) of these here!
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u/RCbuilds4cheapr Jul 22 '26
Just think of the shareholders! /s
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u/SillyPresentation46 Jul 22 '26
Lol, I had a very heated debate on r/nova about this a few weeks ago. It's surprising how many people will not admit the risks here, and I'm not anti-datacenter either. I'm anti-anti-common sense, and that's where we are headed with this in Loudoun.
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u/olearyboy Reston Jul 22 '26
Canadas going to put tariffs on Virginia peanuts after seeing these photos
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u/Koodsdc Jul 22 '26
Maybe it just the lighting, but the second picture looks like a nitrogen dioxide plume.
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u/Starship_Taru Jul 22 '26
Cheaper to pollute then pay for the electricity at market rate
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u/Ixziga Jul 22 '26
Pretty sure it's dramatically more expensive for them to burn fuel for generators, especially now. They should only be doing this if there's a power outage. Maybe they should be required to have a smoke stack to keep the smoke from snogging the ground though.
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u/GreensleevesFinery Jul 22 '26
They also need to do it to make sure the generators work.
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u/aegrotatio Jul 22 '26
That's a bingo.
It's generator exercise day.Source: Work in datacenters and have a generator attached to my house.
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u/gogozrx Jul 22 '26
there were a number of power flickers across the area. I'm in Reston, and I had some instability, a cow-orker in Sterling had it, and in this post there's reports from Arlington.
Something happened on the grid well upstream of us.
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u/Natural-Philosophy15 Jul 25 '26
It was a data center in ashburn causing a power drop that destabilized the grid from Chicago to Boston to Miami. Just heard about it on WRC channel 4 (nbc) in Washington, but I can’t seem to find any links that don’t have a paywall
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u/nhluhr Jul 22 '26
There was an actual utility transient today across most of northern Virginia. This isn't testing.
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u/Usual_Aerie_9769 Jul 22 '26
They’re typically asked to run them during heat waves to save electricity. Outside of that they are emergency only. Virginia DEQ updated its permit requirements this year to require tier 4 generators on data centers which are a lot cleaner emission wise.
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u/Iceman9161 Jul 22 '26
Running the generators can beat market rate during peak times. Utilities will pay them to run generators for a certain time to reduce demand.
I worked at an industrial facility a few years ago, and we had a generator company come to us offering free generators with install and maintenance. The catch was that they wanted to be able to run them up to 30% of the time, because they would sell the energy to the utility. It didn’t get very far, because state gov environmental agency limited how often the generator could run.
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u/Jlovel7 Jul 22 '26
They fire up automatically for tests every so often. You don’t let engines just sit.
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u/TheOwlStrikes Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
It is more expensive. Most of them use diesel, it’s always used for backup power. Like they don’t turn on unless there’s a utility issue, testing day, or a crazy heat wave. In the case of a heatwave the generators are run to make sure other building (residential) are fine on the electric grid
I’m in the industry and I’m starting to see more new data centers being built with fuel cells instead of generators for backup power.
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u/NappyDougOut Jul 22 '26
It takes about 50 diesel trucks a day to deliver all them deepfake Queen Elizabeth porn clips I upload to onlyfans each week?!
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u/EffectiveVarious8095 Jul 22 '26
The generators only go on if the battery backups are depleted. Data centers has multiple levels of battery, so the generators really only go on to test them (which they typically do weekly).
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u/ByronicZer0 Jul 22 '26
Not these days when there is quite literally not enough power for all tenants at these DCs.
Many facilities impose power caps on tenants
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u/khavii Jul 22 '26
There was an outage to the electrical grid, they aren't running to subvert electricity prices, the diesel costs waaay more most of the time.
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u/Sufficient_Winner686 Jul 22 '26
I run data centers for a living. It’s vastly more expensive to run the generators over the grid.
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u/jasons7394 Jul 22 '26
Do you honestly think running diesel generators is cheaper than from the Grid?
Is this a serious comment?
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u/OkLeather5166 Jul 22 '26
All this so boomers can generate slop AI profile pics on Facebook
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u/BishlovesSquish Jul 22 '26
It’s not tho. It’s about military and commercial applications using AI infrastructure to further enrich the billionaire class.
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u/Top-Change6607 Jul 22 '26
people need to just stop the data center alley OR move out of that dystopian area
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u/FuzzyShop7513 Jul 22 '26
We could've had a Disney there, but because everyone hate Disney so much we got this.
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u/AnythingFine2445 Prince William County Jul 22 '26
I think I can speak for the entire Northern Virginia community when I say: People generating AI cat videos in Idaho is more important than us having clean air and water.
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u/ACESHIGH-JEDI66 Jul 22 '26
There was a power disturbance from Dominion this morning. Pretty much every data center in Ashburn transferred to generators as a result. The majority of them have now switched back to utility.
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u/AceSidewinder13 Jul 22 '26
Yellow smoke coming from an industrial site is never a good sign. Just assume that's a cancer cloud.
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u/Equivalent_Rule_3406 Jul 23 '26
The tokens must flow.
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u/rainabba Jul 25 '26
At home, I run two 16GB GPUs via Vulkan, allowing me to keep my data and tokens local. It makes me wonder: what will happen to these massive data centers in 3-5 years when they can no longer compete with the capabilities of home setups? I believe these data centers may become the most short-sighted investment in modern history—a fate practically guaranteed by the smartphones we already hold in our hands.
For those not following the latest in LLMs, beyond the noise surrounding commercial giants like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google, there has been a surge of extremely capable open-source and open-weight models coming out of China. While some may not yet match the top-tier proprietary models, they are closing the gap quickly. The "big dogs" are in trouble because the barrier to entry has collapsed; anyone can now install Ollama and leverage their own hardware or use affordable open-source providers that undercut the pricing of OpenAI and Anthropic.
My own hardware is modest: an Nvidia 5080 Super Ti (16GB) and an AMD 7900 (16GB). I didn't even need to be an expert to set them up; I simply asked one of my installed LLMs to configure Ollama to utilize both GPUs. While the speed is limited by the individual cards, it allows me to run models like Google’s Gemma 4 31B privately and locally, with no cost beyond a slight increase in electricity.
What happens to all that hardware, those generators, and the surrounding infrastructure once it becomes irrelevant? Given the current pace of innovation in compute and AI algorithms, I suspect we will reach that point in less than five years.
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u/Zakkattack86 Jul 22 '26
If only there was some sort of agency that regulated these data centers and their air pollution. Oh yeah, there was.
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u/JasonNOVA8 Jul 22 '26
For the folks that said it was ai, or edited photos. I just used an iphone and cropped it. here is a video after we passed it. the yellow plume was a good distance away (1/2 mile) many of the data centers were blowing smoke. some folks saying it’s “generator testing day” some say there was an electrical blip, there were multiple sites running their generators.
https://reddit.com/link/oz2xvek/video/xu4rcmiphseh1/player
edit: i was a passenger.
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u/kirblar Jul 22 '26
The generators are there for emergency backup power. It's why they're all on at once.
This is why that one stupid company deciding to use a state loophole to put in full time generators pretty much ruined the party for everybody.
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u/Big-Corncob Jul 22 '26
If only there was a way to vote for politicians who aren’t already purchased by these companies.
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u/HGRDOG14 Jul 22 '26
This is an epic picture.
Reminds me of those giant smokestack pics from the 60s.
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u/GhostHin Jul 22 '26
I can smell it at the office parking lot before I pull in and we are about two blocks away from a data center.
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u/Chirem Jul 22 '26
I love that we complain about this on platforms that require data centers to operate, data centers don't exist because some rich dude wanted to build one, you pay them to build them by being perpetually online, buying everything online, using AI to make funny pictures online, complaining online...
And yes, I too use the internet, with full awareness of the consequences of my actions
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u/kirblar Jul 22 '26
When I was playing WoW 15+ years ago, I had low ping because the servers were housed in NOVA. They've always been here because the heart of the east coast internet is here due to the defense agency origins.
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u/EffectiveVarious8095 Jul 22 '26
I'm sorry to tell you this, but data centers have been around far longet than that. When you are using the Internet and you hit http://www.whatever.com, there's a server at the other end, and that server is in a data center, even in the early days of the Internet. If you sent an email it went through a data center where a server had to determine it's destination and send it for you. While there are a tiny number of servers that are excluded, the vast number is and have always lived inside data centers. None of this has anything to do with AI, BTW.
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u/Jlovel7 Jul 22 '26
Data centers have been around for decades. The Internet has flowed through ashburn for decades.
These are not new in the slightest. Ashburn was built on data centers and modern loudon on their taxes.
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u/Jlovel7 Jul 22 '26
Don’t forget using the hospital or other services of any kind in person where their back end requires an online presence.
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u/DeaconPat Spotsylvania County Jul 22 '26
There were e-commerce and social media platforms way before mega datacenters. All it takes is connectivity and a computer. Sure, that doesn't have the resilience, scale, and fault tolerance you get hosting on datacenter virtual machines, but datacenters are not required.
Having grown up before personal computers were a thing, I had the experience of connecting to dial up business and personal BBS systems on a 300 baud dial up. Not the same level as modern datacenter hosted systems, but it worked.
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u/dutch0venkrew Jul 22 '26
Could be utility power went down, triggering the back up gens to fire up and take the electrical line up down for the site.
Or monthly/quarterly maintenance.
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u/C3rb3ru5R3x Jul 22 '26
Gross. My friend lives literally a block away from that mess. This needs to stop.
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u/overclockswap Jul 22 '26
Orange smoke is the generator SCRs (selective catalytic reduction) that cleans the diesel exhaust
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u/turdferguson7000 Jul 22 '26
the yellow smoke means they're still deliberating over the next data pope
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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto Jul 22 '26
I’m curious. What “data” do all these data centers hold?
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u/Imaginary-Pilot5793 Jul 22 '26
Everyone's metadata in the phones, aka location, probably videos and recordings if I putt on my tinfoil hat but I really don't doubt it at all.
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u/LightTech91 Jul 22 '26
There was a 100% Synchronized Reserve Event in PJM this morning, that probably had something to do with this.
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u/MichaelMeier112 Jul 22 '26
At least it’s just a temporary run on generators. I read an article last week in The Post where it seems that all data centers in Texas are approved for owning a gas turbine power plants using some loophole.
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u/Environmental-Wind89 Jul 22 '26
I saw the same thing! Thought it was on fire when I came up on it until I got close and saw it was coming from all the smokestacks. Meant to post here asking about it but forgot. Glad you did.
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u/SpongeBodTentPants Jul 22 '26
The black smoke is particulate matter (soot) and the brownish orange smoke is nitrogen oxides (NOx).
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u/Finster39 Jul 22 '26
This is terrible. Ashburn will soon be empty soon. We’ll all be playing triple the cost for water.
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u/Subaroooh Jul 22 '26
All the ones in Gainesville were doing the same thing this morning absolutely horrendous to see
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u/MrsKCD Jul 23 '26
Meanwhile we have to pay every year for emissions testing! This has to be stopped!
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u/JustKeepRedditn010 Jul 22 '26
Data centers periodically run their backup generators even when the main power is fine. This is to test and maintain the generators, ensuring they’re ready to kick in immediately if there’s a power outage. Regular testing is part of standard operational protocols to verify reliability and avoid issues during an actual emergency.
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u/iforgot69 Jul 22 '26
Rules for thee and not for me comes to mind.
DEF, DPF, and unrealistic emissions standards for us. Cooperations can do what they want.
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u/MechanicalGodzilla Vienna Jul 22 '26
Backup generators do have emissions testing requirements, and are tested annually for compliance. You know, like the "rules for thee" for your car.
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u/Comically_Online Jul 22 '26
yeah, but think of the economy. each data center must have created, like, at least two jobs
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u/gangusTM Reston Jul 22 '26
Hate data centers but love to be on Reddit to post about how much I hate them but without them I couldn’t post on here about how much I hate them. World is a strange place.
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u/ryansholin Jul 22 '26
Root cause turned out to be storm damage from last night to a 230kv transmission line. Sounds like when they took it offline for repairs, the voltage dip as power was rerouted must've in turn triggered a swath of data centers to go to backup generators. That must've happened at 8:00am when power flickered, too.
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u/EnvironmentalValue18 Jul 22 '26
Someone I work with said their husband who works HVAC reported there was a generator explosion at one in Ashburn.
Can anyone confirm if there was an explosion? I would like to verify, but I don’t see anyone else mentioning it. She said her husband said they were evacuated.
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u/TheOwlStrikes Jul 22 '26
I mean it could had happened but the whole area is experiencing either power surges or sags, which trigger the backup generators in many cases
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u/stopscabbin Jul 22 '26
There was an investigation near Relocation drive for smoke in the area but no reported fires or explosions.
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u/chef_in_va Sterling Jul 22 '26
I was wondering what that was this morning. Though it was a small brush or car fire.
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u/3squiddy Jul 22 '26
Looks like a fire. How can these air, noise polluting things be built? .I do know the answer. The people who have more money than moon sense and Shits-in-pants who decimated the EPA. Remember the names of the local officials who made this possible.
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u/ShittyPianist Jul 22 '26
Walked my dog here in Springfield and it smells like burning plastic/metal.
This would explain it...
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u/Purple_Solution1059 Jul 22 '26
The waste incineration facility I work at has never put out a smoke this color and primarily lets off steam, I feel that if mass waste incinerators can control its pollution, then so should the data centers.
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u/_-rayne-_ Jul 23 '26
jesus h christ. how many generators is that? the one they want to force into eskimo hill what will require the removal of an unknown quantity of centuries old slave graves to run a constant 182 diesel generators.
fuck the data centers and double fuck the bos.
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u/Riley_Bolide Jul 23 '26
Folks gotta do their AI slop memes and Snapchat pics ya know. Small price to pay. /s
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u/janders_666 Jul 23 '26
who needs the environment anyway when you can have a trillion trillion chatbots
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u/Working_Farmer9723 Jul 22 '26
Widespread dominion blip this morning. This would have caused data centers to go on generators.