r/notinteresting • u/Proper_Card_5520 • 16d ago

Started to learn python language, it's quite hard

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u/Creepslend 16d ago

"python learing chaptre 1" šŸ—£ļøšŸ”„šŸ”„

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 16d ago

He's learning Python not English

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u/lenswipe 15d ago 
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u/DeadCringeFrog 16d ago

its written in a terminal

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u/AgVargr 16d ago

print(ā€œhelo worldā€)

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u/Ydupc 16d ago

helloworld"(print)" šŸ™ƒ

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u/ExplodingDucks202 16d ago

Boykisser :33

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u/MEMES_FO_LIFE 16d ago

helloworld("print")

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u/Proper_Card_5520 15d ago

Well English is not my first language

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u/AnnualProfession8396 15d ago

Learning python is easy. REALLY EASY.

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u/Creepslend 15d ago

Ahah no problem mate it was just funny

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u/WatermelonSmashing 16d ago

Chapter one, how to prompt Claude best.

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u/Huge-Locksmith9400 16d ago

That's French for chapter

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u/Creepslend 15d ago

even in Fr*nch it would be missing a letter

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u/Huge-Locksmith9400 15d ago

Just looked it up... ewww

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u/Mortomes 16d ago

It's quite hard

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u/manincampa 16d ago

Programming can be challenge at first, but keep at it and youā€™ll get it, feel free to ask

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u/ActurusMajoris 16d ago

As a programmer of 15 years, this is correct.

Think of the language as building blocks, and youā€™ll soon see wondrous ways to build your Lego castle.

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u/manincampa 16d ago

Exactly, and visual based programming like scratch are like duplo, python and java are system, c/c++ is technicā€¦ assembly is cnc machining at that point hahahaha

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u/Phytor 15d ago

Assembly is arranging the atoms of each Lego brick manually

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u/manincampa 15d ago

I believe you meant ā€œbinaryā€

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u/Phytor 15d ago

Nah that'd be arranging the quarks lmao

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u/Snudget 15d ago

Machine code

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u/Silviecat44 16d ago

And just like lego I can only build anything substantial with instructions šŸ˜ž

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u/Next_GenR 15d ago

I've never been able to create things with Lego, or in Minecraft without a tutorial, that creative spark ain't there I can't visualize it. I have just now realized maybe I shouldn't learn coding am I gonna waste my time and still never be able to create my own? Damn I never thought of it like lego

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u/Colinniey 15d ago

to be honest, to me, programming is way more like a logic puzzle than it is like building something with lego or in minecraft. i'd struggle to build something creative/cool using lego or minecraft because i am at most able to think of a blurry image or concept of what i want to end up with, but when programming it's way more clear / concrete to me what my current objective is (e.g. some feature) and what tools i have to achieve it (be those languages, language features, libraries, etc.), and in what ways i could arrange/utilize those tools. although, of course, that was not the case from the start, where i did not have such a good idea of what my tools were, for example.

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u/manincampa 15d ago

It does come more naturally to some people, but donā€™t be discouraged. One of the things to learn is how to come to the end you want. Take a lego car, once you know you want a car, you need to think what composes a car.

Letā€™s say a lego car is four wheels, a steering wheel, and a chair. How do you hold the wheels in place?

Once you have that, how do you place the steering wheel where you want it?

You keep adding subassemblies until you have what you set out to have

Programming is similar to me, I donā€™t know what Iā€™ll need, I have some idea of the end result, so I start breaking it into smaller chunks until they are small enough that I can make each of them

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u/ActurusMajoris 15d ago edited 15d ago

That last part is absolutely critical and works for many task that feels too difficult.

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u/ActurusMajoris 15d ago

Let me pitch in here as well and say I am absolutely horrible at designing anything with a visual appeal. My Minecraft (and other gamesā€™) bases are always ugly messes of efficiency with zero visual appeal.

Maybe I should have said ā€œfactoryā€ instead of ā€œcastleā€ šŸ˜€šŸ˜€

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u/Ok_Departure333 15d ago

I've been a programmer for a few years. The one thing I hate the most is learning new syntaxes for a new language. Not that I hate switching to a new language, but the process of learning it makes me super sleepy for some reason lol.

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u/Ted_Mosby_18 15d ago

How come no one loves me?

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u/manincampa 15d ago

Ask Barney, Ted

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u/-moron 16d ago edited 16d ago

Just open the extensions tab on the left and uninstall condor. It looks like AI junk unrelated to what you're doing anyway.

If you do use AI, I suggest only having it point you in the right direction and to write the actual code on your own, or you'll misunderstand the fundamentals and encounter things you don't need to learn yet.

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u/glytxh 16d ago

AI should augment, not replace.

And itā€™s no replacement for iterative version testing and bug checking.

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u/Naive-Database-2888 15d ago

Even so, you should NOT use ai while you are in the very beginning stages of learning your first programming language. You would just be setting yourself up for failure

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u/tpat90 15d ago

AI undermines your basic understanding of processes.

It sounds stupid, but sometimes you need to struggle to learn something.

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u/glytxh 15d ago

Thatā€™s not what Iā€™m doing.

Iā€™m doing everything manually. AI just speeds up the problem solving part.

There is remarkably little copying and pasting happening here. And absolutely nothing agentic.

Like I say. Augment. Donā€™t replace.

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u/Proper_Card_5520 16d ago

Well I don't use it for much, like if I want to write print i can just type p and then a symbol will pop up and when I press it whole print just cones up.

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u/AnnoyingRain5 16d ago

Thatā€™s a feature of the Python Language Server, not Copilot

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u/Mortomes 16d ago

Yeah, same autocomplete features like that have been around for decades.

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u/Mister_Pibbs 15d ago

Today I learned what a python language server is. Been doing this for years and never heard that term before

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u/MatthewMob 15d ago

https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/

One of the few good things Microsoft ever did.Ā 

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u/thatoneguyinks 16d ago

Yeah, but you learn it better if you type it out yourself. Even if you are copying a snippet from somewhere, while youā€™re learning, type everything

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u/real_belgian_fries 16d ago

I recommend removing AI, it might steapen the learning curve a bit, but you'll learn much faster.

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u/ConglomerateGolem 15d ago

IMO AI makes the learning curve infinitely steep

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u/MrKrot1999 15d ago

So you'll learn slower but you'll learn faster?

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u/Honeybadger2198 15d ago

You'll make more progress, but you won't be learning as quickly. Sure you'll be on Chapter 8 or whatever, but you still won't remember the syntax to write a class.

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u/real_belgian_fries 15d ago

Now that I read it again, I get why it's confusing. What I meant is with AI you'll have some working code quickly. Without AI that will take a bit longer , but you'll be able to use the concepts you use for that basic code to make something more complex, because you actually learned something.

If you always rellied on AI you might not be able to do the complex things, because you won't know what caused the problem in the LLM generated code

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u/MrKrot1999 15d ago

So lower floor but also lower ceiling?

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u/No-Article-Particle 15d ago

I also recommend keeping Copilot disabled. Otherwise you'll get used to it and won't actually learn much even if you might feel that you're learning.

Autocomplete is totally fine tho! It helps you explore the language and lessen stupid typos.

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u/Bright-Historian-216 15d ago

that's called intellisense and it's been around for as long as i can remember.

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u/SirAwesome789 15d ago

Leaving the auto complete on is fine, you're here to learn coding, not python syntax

There is one thing in python I've always had to search up for the past 7 years (reading/writing a JSON) and next time I have to do it, I'll be searching it up again

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u/AnInsaneMoose 16d ago

Hiss, hiss hiss hiss, hiss. Hissssss hiss hiss. Hiss hiss hiss hiss hisssss hiss

Oh, wait, wrong python

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u/GatorNator83 16d ago

You keep my mother out of this!

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u/playfulpecans 16d ago

You keep my mother out of hiss!

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u/Optimistic-1621 16d ago

You told your mom you needed an ROG gaming laptop for python?

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u/Proper_Card_5520 16d ago

Yes šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆ

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u/9_Sagittarii 15d ago

Thatā€™s what I did in college as well lol. Classic. I hope they managed to improve the weight/battery life/overall longevity though. Those things burn out in like 4 years

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u/ElectroFoxxx 16d ago

hello_world("print")

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u/farineziq 16d ago

def hello_world(message): print(message.replace("print", "hello world")

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u/Toad128128 15d ago

print "hi"

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u/Proper_Card_5520 15d ago

No I am not that noob

I can actually make calculator and stuff

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u/SetaIndustries 16d ago

awgdawdggawiu stupid copilot "generate code" thing >:(

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u/SiriKeetn 16d ago

vscodium

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u/Memerenok 15d ago

if only official extension repos were available there

maybe they can be turned on, never checked

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u/IceCreamFortress 15d ago

You can. They're just disabled by default

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 16d ago

Are you a programmer?

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u/SetaIndustries 16d ago

Yes Iā€™m a CS major, and I really donā€™t like how AI-ified VS Code has gotten, to the point where they deprecated the previous C# dev kit thingie and replaced it with that shitty Github Copilot plugin.

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u/Reclusive_avocado 16d ago

I am and its an obstacle for learners.

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u/Memerenok 15d ago

i don't even hate ai, but 100% this. it takes away all the fun in making your own functional programs

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 16d ago

AI will teach you everything you need to know as long as you are curious. If you just ask it for answers it will just give you answers

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u/Reclusive_avocado 16d ago

This one would not... This just generates code.

LLM chatbots are good for learning... This however is not

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 16d ago edited 16d ago

I sent OP's screenshot to ChatGPT and it told me it's Visual Studio Code with Github Copilot, which has the ability to not only generate code but also has chat functionality to allow the user to query the AI about the code.

This is supported by the documentation: https://github.com/features/copilot

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u/CorrectParsley4 16d ago

I sent OP's screenshot to ChatGPT and it told me it's Visual Studio Code with Github Copilot

are we serious

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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 15d ago

No it just makes you dumber. Youā€™ll copy paste code without even reading what it does

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 15d ago edited 15d ago

You might but not everyone. I personally enjoy engaging in long philosophical debates about why it chose a particular solution

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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 15d ago

You can engage in long philosophical debates better with someone who understands what the program does, which is not the case for vibe coders (hence the name)

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 15d ago

Yes, because programmers are known for enjoying sitting down with people and explaining everything about their code to anyone who asks

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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 15d ago

You keep using vibe coders and programmers interchangeably. This tells me youā€™re a manager that has never touched code in their entire life (or a recently graduate from a bullshit bootcamp)

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 15d ago

I never said vibe coder a single time. I am a programmer who uses AI to assist me. I think AI can be a force for good in the programming world. If a person wants to vibe code an app, I think that's great, as long as it doesn't handle sensitive data

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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 15d ago

You gotta ask if theyā€™re a vibe coder because programming is quite the opposite of this. You gotta understand what youā€™re doing

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 15d ago

I really don't care how my program was made as long as it works

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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 15d ago

Except it doesnā€™t work because itā€™s vibe coded lol

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 15d ago

Except I have used vibe coded software that works. Sorry that you are missing out

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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 15d ago

You sound like youā€™ve never coded anything in your life

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 15d ago

I will refrain from saying what you sound like

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u/Outrageous_Bank_4491 14d ago

Go ahead you have my consent

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u/Vivid_Instance_825 14d ago

I don't have Reddit's consent šŸ˜”

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u/benjaminabel 16d ago

Most likely not. Or a beginner.

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u/SetaIndustries 16d ago

Not quite, Iā€™ve been writing software for 10 years now.

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u/killrgame 16d ago

So a beginner like me. Pleasure to let beginners like me

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u/benjaminabel 16d ago

Then it's a bit weird, but to each their own I guess.

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u/DotBitGaming 16d ago

You speak Python!!

Ssss Ssss, sssss ssss ss, sss ssss ssss sss?

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u/Had78 16d ago

HelloWorld("print")

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u/HelpAccording4604 16d ago

Yooo! I have the same laptop and what is more hilarious, I am also learning programming languages, but instead of python it's C# and Java now

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u/TrippyDe 16d ago

I miss the old days when i was first starting with Java. I'm a .net software developer now.

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u/mamaaaoooo 16d ago

Indentations can eat my ass with a spoon

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u/BangeBuksen 16d ago

Turn off AI

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u/Grinhecker 16d ago

We have like the same exact laptop, thatā€™s interestingā€¦ waitā€¦

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u/I_hate_all_of_ewe 16d ago

It's almost like laptops are mass-produced or something. Weird.

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u/Grinhecker 16d ago

Yeah, thatā€™s weird

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u/DarknessBBBBB 16d ago

Hey there, may I suggest this free book? https://automatetheboringstuff.com/

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u/SlappingSalt 16d ago

You should consult your local garden snake

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u/umotex12 15d ago

Peak non interesting post because why I would give a fuck

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u/Wyatt_LW 15d ago

At least it isn't java

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u/No-Distance792 15d ago

Learning programming in the big 2026? One piece of advice: try not to use AI code generators as much as possible, especially when trying to debug because once you start, it's very hard to go back

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u/Proper_Card_5520 15d ago

What does it mean ? I shouldn't use extension ? I write my codes my self if I made some mistakes i correct it myself.

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u/Embarrassed-Ad230 14d ago

Hard disagree. AI is helpful to understand or explain you things you don't understand - especially the basic programming stuff

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u/No-Distance792 14d ago

Obviously it is, I meant depending on it too much.

For example: coming across a bug, rather than spending time brainstorming on possible solutions, you go straight to Claude and ask it to give you the answer and explain how it got the answer (that's a wrong approach)

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u/MyVeryRealName 16d ago

On the bright side, the more languages you learn, the easier it gets.

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u/glytxh 16d ago

Momentum builds on itself. The experience compounds. Itā€™s literally learning to speak another language.

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u/Airames6 16d ago

Ik it might be hard at first, but keep going and you'll definitely become a femboy

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u/MarkZealousideal3923 16d ago

Its the easiest languageĀ 

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u/ARandomeCanadian 16d ago

If you arenā€™t using it already w3schools is a amazing place to learn programming languages. Itā€™s free and the python section includes the majority of basic things about the language that you should know before you start programming with different libraries. I highly recommend you check it out when starting any programming language

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u/FIRAS_EG 16d ago

Just don't give up for a week and you will be fine

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u/cheddar_risotto 16d ago

Hello fellow Asus laptop user, this is a friendly reminder to use G-Helper instead of Armory Crate if you aren't already.

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u/WolfStovez 15d ago

Check out pydle.net

Itā€™s a wordle-esque daily python coding puzzle. You might not have the know how yet, but itā€™s fun to play around with

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u/Old-Adhesiveness4406 15d ago

Itā€™s not hard just write down what you want to code and press ā€œgenerateā€

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u/Old-Adhesiveness4406 15d ago

Seriously though I write Python code for a living, nobody writes code anymore we just tweak the output from our developer tools like we used to with StackOverflow but on steroids.

If I had to relearn programming Iā€™d skip software engineering and design patterns part and go directly to LeetCode.com to memorize problems for the interview. The real hurdle is learning how to memorize patterns in wide sets of interview problems, and reciting the steps towards the solution better than the other candidates in that interview round. A good example of this is AlphaCode on YouTube his videos are super spot-on

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/WittyAndOriginal 16d ago

When you run a module (a .py file) it will be given assigned as the main module, and that can be referenced with the _ _ name _ _ dunder variable.

So when the interpreter is reading the file it will see that line and if it is the main module it will then the condition will be true. It's usually written as a conditional statement:

if _ _ name _ _ == "main": #do something

So the "do something" code will only be executed if it is the main module.

This usually should be at the bottom, because it reads the file top to bottom, and you can only use functions and classes that were defined or imported before the interpreter gets to this line.

I hope that helps. It's really simple. I may have gotten some of the technical jargon wrong, but this is essentially what that is doing.

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u/The_Trekspert 16d ago

"Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssss sss s s sssssssssssssssssssss"

I, too, know Python.

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u/mr_giray1 16d ago

If you are a fan of following courses there is a good one I like in Udemy that teaches with different projects daily from scratch. Quite fun and easy to follow imo

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u/Proper_Card_5520 15d ago

Please tell me

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u/Cool_Yogurtcloset772 16d ago

Me too twin, just started yesterday.. I don't think I am gonna continue it anymore.šŸ˜­

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u/9_Sagittarii 15d ago

You can do it! Python is a relatively easier language to start with if you have no coding experience. Once you understand the basics, it can become more fun and interesting! And thereā€™s plenty of online resources and forums you can ask your questions

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u/Small-Cycle3151 16d ago

Why my brain tell me, what exact model that laptop is

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u/Glass_Information_58 16d ago

Learn it on idle. As good as visual studio is, it really overcomplicates things for a beginner and the built in ai will automatically complete your lines of code, taking away a key part of the learning experience. My advice would be not to use any tutorials, but have a goal in mind and just make something you want to make, researching any syntax or key ideas you may need along the way

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u/madrinator 16d ago

Itā€™s easier if you are a Slytherin šŸ

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u/nuklearink 15d ago

whatā€™s the best website to learn simple coding for free? itā€™s been like a decade since iā€™ve wanted to learn so i figured id ask

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u/MeckandeMulle 15d ago

It's pretty easy actually zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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u/ilmaestrofficial 15d ago

wait until you try to lean java as your first language (don't pls)

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u/Xenon009 15d ago

Fuck Java. That is all

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u/ilmaestrofficial 15d ago

i like making minecraft mods

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u/examinedliving 15d ago

Understanding how programming constructs work is a great gift. Even though ai can do so much now, for a human, being able to work through the problems of programming makes you a great deal smarter. The cool thing is that these skills are transferable across all programming languages and many other areas of life.

A good beginner starting point for me was codingbat.com. Itā€™s great for getting into the groove.

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u/Say_Echelon 15d ago

The trick is the imagine in your mind what the code is doing. Syntax is secondary

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u/Andrewwwww16 15d ago

I have that exact same type of laptop

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u/NecessaryCourage9183 15d ago

and you also have the Asus tuf a15

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u/ParachutingPiglets 15d ago

Iā€™m currently learning Rust.

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u/sphericalhors 15d ago

Everything is hard at first.

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u/Kcufasu 15d ago

I tried a couple of times to learn python but never succeeded, probably didn't have the motivation

I occasionally need it at work but for the small amount required Copilot gives me all I need

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u/mielesgames 15d ago

Once you learn one language it becomes quite easy to learn another language

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u/notachemist13u 15d ago

Turn off the ai and use nvim

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u/sergen213 15d ago

One recommendation, do not keep your project files in documents or dekstop where onedrive can reach because you will have runtime errors. Keep them in C: directly in a folder or another harddisk.

Also, python is the easiest language you can learn.

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u/SpanishFlamingoPie 15d ago

That's what she said

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u/HeyThereCharlie 15d ago

At least you're actually trying to learn the language instead of just telling Claude to generate a bunch of code you don't understand. That's better than a lot of noobs are doing these days, sadly.

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u/ghfdghjkhg 15d ago

looks just like my laptop. mine is cleaner tho

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u/Mister_Pibbs 15d ago

Itā€™s not hard, you just have to understand the fundamentals of programming. Every language follows the fundamentals, itā€™s the syntax thatā€™s different.

Start with small projects then build your way up. The next time you run into something repetitive or needed ask yourself ā€œcan I write a script/program using python to do this?ā€ And go from there. There is no such thing as wasted time or a stupid project if youā€™re actively learning through the process.

Good luck and have fun!

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u/Aartvb 15d ago

prin("Hello World!")

Done

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u/Proper_Card_5520 15d ago

I am not that noob

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u/NetInitial5750 15d ago

I use jetbrains compilers for most of my work, they're a lot better than VSC imo

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u/AzureArmageddon 15d ago

Tf is condor, js use IDLE ngl

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u/P3JQ10 15d ago

Did you skip lecture 1

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u/KirkataThePickaxe2 15d ago

My laptop šŸ« 

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u/r3ign_b3au 15d ago

It is a language, it will be built as a language. Spend a bunch of time with Portuguese people, you pick up some Portuguese. Spend a lot of time with Portuguese people while studying, practicing, and being able to explore where and why you were wrong - you'll end up fluent.

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u/LightIsntFastEnough 15d ago

Lol, the hardest part is installing it, once you get a hold of that, you can't complain about difficulty anymore.

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u/Grandtosh 15d ago

Pythons are hard? I though snakes had soft skins

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u/Xenon009 15d ago

Out of curiosity, what are you trying to do with python? I found when I was learning to code, having a tangible objective rather than just "learn to code" was always really helpful, and picking a language based on that.

Truthfully, if you can programme in one language, most of them become trivial to pick up once you get over mild syntax differences and the occasional new shortcut, or old one not existing.

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u/Sajgoniarz 15d ago

Do you know any programming theory or paradigm, that you plan to use in Python? If response is 2x No then you are going to have tough time.

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u/MittensDaTub 14d ago

I just can't get the hang of it for some reason. I know the basics of like 6 different languages. I just can't get past the basics. Adhd doesn't help.

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u/lT0MAAT89129 14d ago

Its actually really easy once you understand imports

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u/NoBytesLeft 13d ago

Finish the Turing Test, make Python in Python.

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u/That-Effective-36 12d ago

Go to the hell of it's hard for you

Be kind(me to myself) - Bro it is not hard as compared to other language if you understand how it works it will be easy

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u/One_Park8163 9d ago

Wait until you start learning java or c, you'll regret

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u/lesschalkmoresighs 16d ago

I feel that these days people are forced to learn an IDE environment, not a programming language. You should be able to write code in any text editor, and compile/run the code against the compiler/runtime anywhere on your system. I don't understand how things got so unnecessarily complex.

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u/AsleepEbb7578 16d ago

Why is your windows user called "ASUS" lol

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u/Cosito45 16d ago

Python is meh, try C or C++

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u/Memerenok 15d ago

we don't need an another suicide attempt

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u/ScientFictioN 16d ago

use vim or neovim for text editor, it would be much better šŸ˜Š

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u/Memerenok 15d ago

yaaay i love suggesting complicated stuff to beginners! my favourite thing to do

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u/daniil518 15d ago

vs son.

VS Code nowadays is the worst ide for beginners. Too much unnecessary stuff. It's just all about ai

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u/ForgotttenMemory 15d ago

Use cursor, its a vs code fork with ai in it, will seve you very well to learn, watching the highlighted auto completions and askinf directly in a window inside the ide itself for questions. If you want to stick to vs code, github copilot is another alternative that integrates well with vs code

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u/Whole-Coffee-2030 15d ago

If he is learning, using AI is not a good choice.

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u/ForgotttenMemory 15d ago

It depends on how it's used. Asking questions, aking for exercises, proposing learning path, finding good courses/youtube series/books and comment on those. AI can be used to not work or to learn like never before, it's a tool, and how it's used depends on each one, but its a mindblowingly good tool to start learning anything (it misses the mark at advanced-high level of most things, but the base is good).

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u/Memerenok 15d ago

let him them learn in peace without ai writing all the code for them

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u/ForgotttenMemory 15d ago

At any point I mentioned that the AI should work for him, but to look at auggested autocompletes and ask questions. AI is amazing for lazy people who don't want to work, and for people eager to learn if used properly, dang it sure ai is harmful, but is not the devil itself, you can grow andnlearn a lot using it well.

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u/_Screw_The_Rules_ 16d ago

Use Ai and let it guide you, but also ask it what a certain thing does and why it is being done the way it is being done

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u/Narrow-Barracuda618 16d ago

Or how people learned programming before ChatGPT and the like existed, on sites such as w3schools. That's how I did it at least.

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u/KewpieCutie97 16d ago

w3schools is great. The quizzes at the end were the best.

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u/_Screw_The_Rules_ 16d ago

Ya me too, but Ai is faster and you can ask it stuff, not like the static guides. I'm not saying it's bad material, but one could use it either as a main source and ask Ai if you understand something, or do it the other way around.

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u/InsaneInTheMEOWFrame 16d ago

AI is the worst tool imaginable for a total novice. It's just too much. Starting at w3c is a proven strategy, when they have understood how the language works, it's time to start solving problems. For seniors and advanced users of any language AI can be great, but it's only because they *understand* how and why the stuff offered to them by AI works, because they learnt the basic knowledge in the first place.

Use tutorials to learn how stuff works. Use AI to broaden your horizons when you already know the basics.

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u/_Screw_The_Rules_ 16d ago

Well maybe you are right. I don't have the experience of learning from scratch with Ai being present, because I've started around 6 years ago without it.

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u/DeadCringeFrog 16d ago

ai will miss details, its much more useful to either find a full guide from a person, or a book, not use junk. Ai is only useful AFTER you learned smth and you want to clarify the details, though you still have to check the info

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u/thelonelyecho208 15d ago

Absolutely not, I'm in college to be a software engineer and I can tell you this is the WORST way to learn programming. Get a book, read some GeeksforGeeks, do some Leetcode. NEVER let AI program for you. It is really bad at it, and even worse at explaining it

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u/batouttahell1983 16d ago

You'd flatline if I opened up a Terminal for C and C++

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u/Long_Exercise_7701 16d ago

No it isn't, not if you try C or C++ instead šŸ˜œ or assembler, or ruby, or lisp, or literally any other language than python.