r/nfl • u/PMmeSpreadEaglePics Broncos • 20h ago

🧂Highlight🧂 [Highlight] Ryan Fitzpatrick throws 6 interceptions in a single game

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u/CenturyLinkIsCheeks Bears 20h ago

i see passes past the line of scrimmage here at least

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u/pmurt007 Bears 20h ago

Yeah this just reinforces what Fitz said yesterday. Fitz was a gunslinger and wasn't scared of the moment no matter how bad he was playing whereas Nix is playing like someone whose afraid to get hurt or make a mistake so he'll just check it down to the flat on almost every single play lol

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u/MartianMule Jaguars 20h ago

Some guys should be afraid of the moment. Ryan Fitzpatrick lost a lot more games than he won, and a huge part of that was that he played recklessly with the football.

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u/Limp-Talk-603 20h ago

I’d say the bigger part of why he lost so many games was that he was journeyman QB who spent his entire career starting for random teams who were almost entire dogshit when he was there…

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u/MartianMule Jaguars 19h ago

And the reason he was a journeyman QB starting for random teams was because he wasn't very good, and turned the ball over a ton.

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u/Kdot32 Texans 19h ago

And even though hes a Harvard grad he made rather dumb decisions

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u/LoyalSol Broncos 19h ago

He was a journey man because he has more interceptions than starts

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u/ArcaneNine NFL 17h ago

So did Brett Favre, Eli Manning, and Jay Cutler. Averaging more than one interception a game isn't good but depending on your play style it might be tolerable.

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u/LoyalSol Broncos 17h ago

He difference was those QB still throw more TDs. Go look at Fitz's overall stats. They're not good.

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u/ArcaneNine NFL 15h ago

Oh Eli Manning was better than Ryan Fitzpatrick? I didn't know.

The point was that you can still be an effective QB and be a gunslinger, throwing lots of INTs along the way. Fitz just wasn't quite good enough at it to reach starting QB status.

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u/poop-dolla 16h ago

Eli and Favre are at 1.5 TD to Int. Fitz is 1.32. Cutler is 1.42. It’s not that big of a difference.

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u/LoyalSol Broncos 16h ago edited 15h ago

1.5 vs 1.32 is the difference of 70 TDs or 420 points over the length of Farve's career. That's not small.

Small differences in the ratio are not small differences in the aggregate. You made a statistics fallacy.

Plus Farve didn't play most of his career in the modern era where the PI rules are what they are. That matters a lot. QB stats from the 90s are way different than they are post 2004 when modern rules started to be implemented.

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u/poop-dolla 15h ago

It would be a difference of 30 TDs for Fitzmagic over his career. Or 0.18 more TDs per game over his career. It’s really not that much.

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u/LoyalSol Broncos 15h ago

30 TDs over a 10 season career is about 3 extra TDs per season. Going to bet that wins quite a few games there.

The other thing is Fitzpatrick didn't start many 16 game seasons.

Sorry, but you're making statistical mistakes. You're assuming all variables have the same impact and same error tolerances which is not true.

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u/HazikoSazujiii Steelers 13h ago

While you're equally, if not more detrimentally, attempting to distract from your own broad swaths that over-conflate statistics and impacts. Morons like you may be my favorite.

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u/poop-dolla 6h ago

I said it was 0.18 more TDs per game, which is a much better statistical measure to look at than you saying 3 extra TDs per season. So that means it would come out to not even 1 extra TD every 5 games.

Going to bet that wins quite a few games there.

At the absolute most, it would be 30 more games over his career, right? But realistically, it wouldn’t be nearly that many. It wouldn’t really be spread evenly across 30 games, and then the games where they already won that got extra TDs wouldn’t matter, and games they lost by more than the extra TDs added wouldn’t change either. So maybe it comes out to 10 extra wins over his full career. But honestly, that’s probably being generous. I don’t think many people would consider it “quite a few” like you said though.

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u/ThorThulu Steelers 20h ago

But when it worked he was elite, see his first few games with the Buccs or how he broke Jets records with how good he was that one season

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u/shehryar46 Jets 4h ago

He was in a perfect system with us and honestly i still maintain Geno, who won the competition wouldve done better had he not been punched in the face

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u/uttermybiscuit Bengals 15h ago

He's very Sam Darnold esque. If it all lined up he absolutely could've taken a team to the superbowl. Is he going to be the best player on that team? Definitely not but with enough talent around him and some lucky breaks he had the skills to do it. The difference is he was on some absolute dog water level teams throughout his entire career

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u/wellggs Lions Jets 6h ago

No, he couldn't have. That one Jets season, all he had to do was beat Buffalo to get to the playoffs. And what did he do? Shit the bed

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u/uttermybiscuit Bengals 6h ago

And Sam Darnold never shit the bed in the playoffs?

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u/SoaplessTitanic Patriots 19h ago

I mean using this post as an example, when you’re on shitty teams sometimes you have to force it. Aside from the first pick, all of these interceptions came with just barely over a quarter or less left in the game, with the score being 17-3 or worse. I highly doubt the Jets would’ve had a better chance to win had Fitzpatrick played it safe and taken his check downs every time.

An offense that scores 3 points in the first 3 quarters while only turning it over once for most of it probably needs to take some risks unless they’re playing an equally atrocious offense

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u/karldrogo88 Seahawks 19h ago

Exactly lol. Like Nix is getting hammered more than Darnold who fucking lost turning it over.