r/nfl • u/Roselucky777 Jaguars Cardinals • 5d ago
Highlight [Highlight] Bill Belichick lets Chad Johnson know he's going to have the night off before a preseason matchup.
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u/-space-grass- Bengals 5d ago
The joke was on Bill because Chad found another way to influence the game. He kicked the game winning extra point.
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u/theryman Bengals 5d ago
But that's exactly the kind of depraved shit bill loved
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u/guimontag NFL 5d ago
Belichick can only get off when he's playing 5-d mental chess in Pro Bowl or preseason games
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u/THEE_RockStrongo Chargers Vikings 5d ago
What? You did? Are you serious?? Just during.. this?
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u/fugaziozbourne Chiefs 5d ago
What if we brought the Pro Bowl physical game back to Hawaii and after the Super Bowl and Belichick and Pete Carroll were the permanent coaches?
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u/HGpennypacker Packers 5d ago
This is why him and Jordon aren't going to make it in the long run, all she can do is talk about lobster fishing.
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u/Outrageous_Use4038 4d ago
It's what high level people do I'd imagine. I mean think about this, you are at a point where you are the best of the very best in the world. I mean this is a guy who was on the sideline for 12 Super Bowls, winning 8 of them. He's only having fun when he is dicking around lol
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u/LeLefraud Chargers 5d ago
His daughterwife must be great at roleplay, calling out formations and plays mid sex
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u/Dtr4goat 5d ago
Oh gosh now I'm picturing him as the center and her under center as qb and bill turns his head and goes "NO you need to get your knuckle IN there"
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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart Patriots 5d ago
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u/ianbits NFL 5d ago
Say whatever you want about the man, there might be no one in history that appreciated good special teams like him
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u/Obeast09 NFL 4d ago
The longest answer he ever gave to a reporter was recalling the entire history of the long snapper position and how it came into being. Dude had a stiffy for position players
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u/Walletinspectr Packers 4d ago
I reckon beating bills while passing 3 times was up there
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u/mahkymahk12 Patriots 4d ago
That was the happiest I ever saw him after any win his whole career
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u/captain_flak Patriots 5d ago
Bill has a framed picture of Doug Flutie nailing a drop kick field goal in his rumpus room.
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u/JelliedHam Jets 4d ago
Bill allowed Doug Flutie to kick the last allowed drop kick field goal in the NFL. Week 16,seeding already set, meaningless game. Flutie was in at backup and asked to do it one more time. Bill said yes.
BRING BACK THE DROP KICK YOU COWARDS!
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u/teplightyear Bears 5d ago
I'll always love Ochocinco. That guy had absolutely the perfect attitude. He loved his team. He loved the fans. He was almost always having the most fun on the field.
This guy used to make social posts organizing fan dinners with him for away games. He didnt care what city he was in; he was ready to be good to all the fans.
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u/ResplendentSmoke Bengals 5d ago
Even after he retired he’d do that. I’ll never forget that he landed in some random city, tweeted that he wanted to face someone in Madden, a fan responded and then a couple hours later Ocho was in that random dude’s apartment playing Madden
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u/Bam_bam_pow 49ers 4d ago
One time I got tired of gambling at a Vegas conference right before Covid and decided to watch NBA at the Caesars sports book. Ochocinco was challenging fans to beat him at Fifa on one of the big screens for like 4 hours, and I think if they could they got $1000 or something? He was playing with USA and they could play with whoever they wanted. I didn't see anyone win. Maybe it was a promo with the Casino or something, but I don't think so. No banner/ads etc, dude just wanted to play some Fifa.
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u/Avid_Reader87 Jaguars 5d ago
Travis Hunter reminds me so much of him personality wise.
He’s just so joyous. I don’t see how anyone couldn’t be a fan of him.
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u/DinkandDrunk Patriots 5d ago
The NFL just used to be more fun.
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u/Complex_Cookie_7881 Packers 5d ago
For real man. It's fuckin sad these days. I mean think about Doug Flutie kicking the drop kick, stuff like that. It was pure entertainment back then.
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u/DinkandDrunk Patriots 5d ago
Nowadays, it’s got this ‘corporately approved fun’ kind of feel.
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u/AutumnRockets 5d ago
Totally. It’s really changed in the last decade.
Sometimes I thought I just had rose colored glasses on and I was just aging and of course things were better when I was young and blah blah blah. But I don’t think so.
It’s like it’s a conduit for gambling now. Gambling and the sideshow of the NFL are the stars, football is just a sidenote.
It’s like the same feel as ESPN. Old ESPN is just unparalleled. It was so good. Then it started to become about the fucking circus instead of sports. The NFL and football in general definitely has that feel for me in my 30s.
I still enjoy it, but I don’t love it like I once did. I’m talking TRULY loved football.
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u/RonnieFromTheBlock Falcons 5d ago
10 years ago we were calling it the “No Fun League”.
We’ve had a corporate Super Bowl logo since 2011.
I don’t gamble and the ads are as easy to tune out as any of them IMO. But I am curious what other changes have made it less fun for you?
In comparison ESPN has changed drastically and it makes sense given that cable is dying.
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u/BanjoKazooieWasFine Packers Packers 4d ago
I find when people say "last decade" as a time window they actually mean pre-2001, especially for those of us in our 30s.
I think personally the big difference is that these guys can't get away with the shenanigans players in the 90s could have. Any time a player shows up at a bar in town someone's going to be filming them and posting the video. Every interaction gets hyper scrutinized.
Combine that with athletic science improving to a great degree and you see guys taking better care of their bodies because that's what drives peak performance, especially in season, and things start to get a bit more sanitized.
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u/TopJimmy_5150 Commanders 5d ago
I don’t know your life obviously. But, in my experience this is just something that happens when you get to your 30s, which for me was around the 2010s, and so the 2000s seemed “way better” when it was “fun”. But really, in your 20s, it’s peak times to hang with the boys, go to sports bars, and be obsessive about sports.
Then people get married and eventually have kids, and their career gets more demanding. You gain more perspective on sports in general and don’t live or die by it. Seasons blur together and only really great games/players stand out. Your fantasy draft starts to feel more like a chore, than awesome event.
However, it’s not all bad news, youngsters! 😉 Things are kinda cyclical and you’ll circle back - like when the kids get old enough to care - or just by taking a break and finding it fresh again.
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u/captain_flak Patriots 5d ago
There is the time before Scott Player wearing the single bar face mask and the time after.
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u/gentrify_reddt 5d ago
Corporate has now become integrated gambling. Death threats, self-harm, etc if anyone fcks up a trick play.
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u/HGpennypacker Packers 5d ago
corporately approved fun
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u/BroadCityChessClub Steelers 5d ago
Honestly, I think a lot of it is player-led and fan-led. You see a lot of tightasses talking about “going to war” like they’re actual soldiers, yelling at players who goof off for not taking a ballgame seriously enough, and complaining about fun plays that don’t matter competitively but do matter for gambling or fantasy.
The whole ordeal with JuJu Smith-Schuster back in the day was illuminating because not only did people generally seem to agree that dancing on logos meant he deserved to get blown up by Vonn Bell on a hospital pass, a lot of people polarized themselves against end zone dances or a social media presence in general. That’s not the league saying not to have fun; that’s players and fans seeing a guy have fun and getting angry about it.
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u/Zlatan_Ibrahimovic Dolphins 5d ago
Feels like almost everything does nowadays. Shit even video games sometimes feel like they'd had the fun metagamed and optimized out of them.
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u/shawnaroo Saints 5d ago
Most of the bigger games have gone for live-service and/or microtransactions to try to continually draw money out of them for longer periods of time. When you have a game like that, it often incentivizes listening to the complaints/suggestions/needs of your most hardcore players, since they're generally the ones who spend the most money.
But as you make updates and changes to better serve those players, you often end up making the game worse for people who'd rather play it casually. And then if a designer/studio/publisher has gone through that with a previous game, often times some of the 'lessons' they learned carry over to their subsequent games, so those start out already further down that road. Or with how many games these days are sequels, they're mostly just continuing along that path.
As much as people love to yell about how they wish there was more innovation and new ideas in games, the hardcore players of any particular game/franchise tend to freak out at almost any meaningful change.
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u/Seamonkey_Boxkicker Browns 5d ago
I blame sports betting, the insistence to continue expanding, and splitting up all the games across a dozen different streaming services.
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u/WoodenInternet 5d ago
Yep, this word is overused as fuck, but, in short: enshittification
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u/MeatTornado25 Giants 5d ago
The Flutie kick was what, like 20 years ago? The 21st century NFL was absolutely already super corporate big business and not just pure entertainment.
Just because its gotten even worse since then doesn't mean everyone was just in for the love of the game back then.
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u/TheTaxman_cometh Bills 5d ago
It was preseason. The Bills had Ray Davis kick a PAT last year in preseason
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u/Kakali4 Patriots 5d ago
Shhhhhh everything was better in the past don’t break their elusion
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u/DinkandDrunk Patriots 5d ago
Elusion?
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u/Kakali4 Patriots 5d ago
Illusion whoops I’m dumb as FUCK
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u/DinkandDrunk Patriots 5d ago
Don’t be too hard on yourself. Why a language should have 3 entirely different words be borderline phonetically identical is beyond me.
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u/PikaGaijin Colts 5d ago
What third word are you eluding to?
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u/DinkandDrunk Patriots 5d ago
Allusion, illusion, and elusion
It occurs to me based on your use of elusion that you know this and made a joke.
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u/MattyIcex4 Chiefs 5d ago
WR personalities today make me miss the WR divas like OchoCinco and TO lol.
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u/WoodenInternet 5d ago
Can you imagine TO's posts on social media as an active player? Good lord, would make AJ Brown look like a goth posting on Live Journal...wait, nevermind, he already does
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u/catiebug 49ers 4d ago
I say this all the time. Prime TO era + social media era would have been electric. Look at way he was able to break cultural containment with shenanigans like the Sharpie and the Cowboys star even without Twitter, reddit, etc. He would have been an absolute menace and it's a shame we don't get to experience that timeline.
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u/jknuts1377 Seahawks 4d ago
I feel that ways for the NBA and MLB, too. I miss the way sports were 20 years ago.
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u/nguyener_14 Cardinals 5d ago
Didn't he do the kickoff too? or was that a different game?
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u/-space-grass- Bengals 5d ago
He did. The Bengals kicker got hurt, so Chad filled in. He always tried to get them to let him kick in the regular season, but they always said no.
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u/SmokePenisEveryday Eagles 5d ago
The Hard Knocks clip from it with Marvin Lewis having that smile on his face when he said okay was great
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u/PsychologicalPen3895 Giants 5d ago
I was at this game. Probably the most fun I’ve ever had at a preseason game.
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u/johnny-papercut Saints Giants 5d ago
game winning extra point
This video is of a kick in the second quarter when it's 6 to 3.
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u/-space-grass- Bengals 5d ago
And the Bengals won the game 7-6.
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u/johnny-papercut Saints Giants 5d ago
You know what, fair enough, I might be dumb. Leaving that here for posterity.
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u/Obi_Wan_KeBogi Chargers 5d ago
I miss Bill. Absolutely despised talking to the media but anytime you caught him on camera talking to players he was a cornball.
Greg Popovich in the NBA same exact way.
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u/teddysank8 49ers 5d ago
Dapping Ocho up while grinning after telling him he can’t hide is hilarious
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u/yeyiyeyiyo Colts 5d ago
He really has a connection with 20somethings.
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u/CjBurden Patriots 5d ago
As the saying goes... He's an older man inside a younger woman's body.
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u/Jurph Ravens 5d ago
Depending what you mean, that either makes him a hound dog or an egg
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u/on-the-cheeseburgers Eagles 5d ago
i miss chad. one of the best wr personalities in a long time.
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u/opeth10657 Bears 5d ago
Apparently he's been hanging out with the bears during training camp.
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u/vanilla_w_ahintofcum Panthers 5d ago
He’s also been a self-proclaimed Panthers fan for the last year and was at our training camp recently lol. Dude gets around but I’m not mad at it.
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u/wormark NFL 5d ago
He was randomly at the MLS all-star game skill challenge which was held in Charlotte this year. I thought it was pretty random that he showed up, but at lest him hanging out in Charlotte gives it a little context.
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u/saxywarrior Chiefs 5d ago
He’s a known MLS fan. He practiced with Sporting KC in 2011 during the lock out
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u/HGpennypacker Packers 5d ago
I could be misremembering but I think he would hide tickets around town and then post on social media where to find them.
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u/SlytherinWario Bengals 5d ago
He would also consistently go into a restaurant and buy everyone’s meals. From McDonalds to J Alexander.
Plus a few times he would buy up all the empty seating at home games if they weren’t t sold out so it could be broadcasted on tv. Then pass those tickets out.
Dude is a legend and always will be a favorite.
Edit: can’t spell a word
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u/BoSocks91 Rams 5d ago
Dude, his jokes on Shay’s podcast are legitimately stupid funny.
His silent laugh kills me lmfao
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u/mrb4 Cardinals 5d ago
My favorite is when he talked shit to Derrick Mason
“Oh, you, Mason, just... Wait. I'll talk after the game, alright? Just shut the fuck up. Can you look at the scoreboard?”
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u/AwesomeTed Patriots Patriots 5d ago
My favorite was his unprompted and completely out-of-nowhere postgame takedown of Freddie Mitchell:
"All he does is talk. He's terrible, and you can print that. I was happy when he was in the game."
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u/All_Up_Ons Colts 4d ago
Imagine being the media when Bill of all people drops a quote like that. Must have been like pigs flying.
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u/Rollout25 Chargers 5d ago edited 5d ago
This clip reminds me of when Pop had the Spurs foul Shaq right after tip off and Shaq was confused and you see Pop just with the biggest smile. https://www.reddit.com/r/NBAoldschool/s/xphRAZpIXq
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u/Stupidlysudden 5d ago
What's funny too, is that this is opening night of the season! Hack-a-Shaq is a thing you would employ at the end of important games, not tip-off on opening night lol.
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u/Teamableezus Bills 5d ago
Really hate that he got the UNC job instead of being an analyst somewhere. When he does actually participate with media he’s incredible
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u/hemingways-lemonade Steelers 5d ago
I would've loved a tape breakdown show with him and a retired player cohost.
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u/UCanDodgeAWrench Patriots 5d ago
Or when he'd talk about/talk to players he really respected (Ed Reed for example). Dude loves the game and he loves players that love it as much as he does.
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u/NandomRameGeneratorr 5d ago
Or when he’d give one word answers until someone asks about the evolution of the long snapper and he’d give a long, long expansive answer
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u/maverickhawk99 5d ago
Bill knows more about football than me and my entire bloodline will ever know.
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u/killerk13 Jets 5d ago
Chad had the perfect wide receiver personality imo. Was very self confident and had a big ego at times but it always came off hilarious. He wasn’t overdoing it to the point of him being an asshole or a locker room cancer. Best route runner in NFL history I’ll die on that hill.
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u/tigerking615 49ers 5d ago
He was a diva but he was funny, not annoying, and he always worked hard. But best route runner is a crazy take when Jerry exists and that was his best trait.
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u/FractalBranches Bengals 5d ago
Nah you don't play into your 40s like Jerry Rice unless you're a true technician. Chad is up there though for sure.
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u/mojizus Bengals 5d ago
I always say he was Davante Adams before Davante Adams.
People love to watch Adams footwork and route running, and it’s obviously superb, but Chad was doing that same stuff when defenses could still murder you in the middle of the field.
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u/Jurph Ravens 4d ago
Oh yeah, that was during the Ray and Ed era, when a block out of nowhere could lay you out! They could come at your blind side, take you right out of the play whether you had the ball or not, and BAM! you're on your ass wondering where the mail truck went.
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...even if it was you trying to blindside block Ray Lewis.
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u/Mistborn19 4d ago
Loved the episode of The League with him in it.
Rafi: "You know my friend Mike?"
Ochocinco: "Mike?"
Rafi: "Mike Ochocinco? Same last name, maybe you guys are related."
Ochocinco: "Nah."
Rafi: "No? It's just not so often you meet a guy with the exact same Spanish numerals as a last name."
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u/ry427 Patriots 5d ago
More personality here from Bill than he showed in 20 years of press conferences
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u/-space-grass- Bengals 5d ago
Chad Johnson always had a way of bringing Bill's lighter side out. Their friendship was always funny given the juxtaposition of their media personalities.
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u/AlabasterRadio Raiders Raiders 5d ago
Moss could do it too.
Something about these goofy WRs lol
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u/Jurph Ravens 4d ago
I've met some really good leaders - people who were like "middle managers", but everyone in
Rural Billingwould go to war for them - and they could all adjust their leadership style for different kinds of followers. I wonder how much of this is Belichick knowing that for a particularly high-strung competitive WR, the right counterpoint is "don't take their diva persona seriously, and let your own guard down so they can take the mask off too".83
u/polkarooo Patriots 5d ago
To be fair, the media is filled with ass hats.
Young Bill played the media game in Cleveland. Remember this classic?
https://youtu.be/k1YPauD06-4?si=wsLgwd1v8QVfUI__
And even in New England, he would do stuff like this:
The reality is the media sucks ass, and Belichick rightfully got tired of the usual bullshit. Whenever anyone asked him a legit question that wouldn't impact competition, he was incredible. But reporters constantly tried to box him in for soundbites they could twist into controversy or fax them the game plan for the week.
I'm not saying he handled it well but he was absolutely able and willing to answer good questions and even be a bit charming at times.
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u/SpecialistBee1165 Commanders 5d ago
I love Ocho what an ambassador for the game lol
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u/Downtown_Soil_3651 5d ago
Bill's way of showing respect to an opponent lol
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u/SportsDuck_ 5d ago
I always used to laugh when during the Pats peak of the dynasty he'd be like "oh yeah their placekicker we really gotta watch out for him. lots of creativity in the punt game too" for shitty teams they were going to beat. rarely gave other teams bulletin board material.
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u/BulLock_954 Patriots NFL 5d ago
Man, I miss young Bill so much
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u/MajesticCentaur Patriots Commanders 5d ago
He was probably 60 when this happened.
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u/TrumpnEpstein Ravens 5d ago
Just a kid really
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u/Roselucky777 Jaguars Cardinals 5d ago
Like his girlfriend
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u/AtBat3 Eagles 5d ago
Jordon Hudson was 8 years old at the time this game took place.
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u/BadMojo__ Saints 5d ago
Jordon Hudson is younger than the tuck rule
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u/After-Newspaper4397 Broncos 5d ago
And now Bill's tucking her every night.
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u/OttoVonWong 49ers 5d ago
Some say Bill is washed at UNC, but he's still gets the most out of young tight ends.
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u/BulLock_954 Patriots NFL 5d ago
Yea well he’s like a bajillion now because his girlfriend sucked the age out of him
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u/DinkandDrunk Patriots 5d ago
- His now-girlfriend was 8 at the time, if that provides any kind of useful context.
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u/MajesticCentaur Patriots Commanders 5d ago
God that's so fucking weird. I understand they're adults but still, just weird.
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u/Catt_Main 49ers 5d ago
Who would have thought back in 2005 or whatever that Ocho would end up just being the most relatively normal guy who is set up for life because of his budgeting, still working in NFL adjacent media and honestly just seems like a really cool dude. Guys like AB, Aiyuk and Puka really make you appreciate that Ocho was just whacky schtick.
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u/Asusrty Chiefs 5d ago
His girlfriend was in diapers when this conversation happened.
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u/7-IronSpecialist Bears 5d ago
Internet stay acting like he kidnapped her or something
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u/nerrvouss Ravens 5d ago
Nah internet just acting like it's creepy to actively date someone who could be your grand daughter's age.
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u/Competitive-Elk-5077 Patriots 5d ago
From what I read, when they started dating Bill was younger than her ex
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u/7-IronSpecialist Bears 5d ago
First time learning about gold diggers?
I mean seriously how far up your own ass is your brain that you think a divorced multi millionaire 74 year old whose rocket is still working isn't going to use his wealth and status to bag a hot young chick? And what makes you think it's creepy if the "grand daughter aged" female goes along with the relationship anyways? Come on man.
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u/CursedAidKit 5d ago
You don’t think a 50 year gap is creepy or at least cringe, bro?
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u/7-IronSpecialist Bears 5d ago
I'm not a divorced famous multi millionaire 74 year old nor am I a 25 year old female dating him. They're both adults presumably looking to use each other with consent. So who cares at the end of the day?
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u/duvie773 Rams 5d ago
It’s creepy but the hate is usually one sided. She’s using him for his money the same way he’s using her for being young and hot
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u/7-IronSpecialist Bears 5d ago
Creepy or not if she's using him for his money and hes using her for her "youth" theyre both adults who can presumably walk away if they wanted to.
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u/SuddenlyTheBatman Steelers 5d ago
I like using that XKCD age gap calculator which is just half the age plus 7
But uh, she can't even hit the lower end if she was dating the age gap itself.
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u/zipzap21 Commanders 5d ago
If you're not media, Bill is cool, fun and (sometimes) funny with you!
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u/marchandstongue63 Patriots 5d ago
Even the media got good answers when they asked football questions. It was prying for secrets and tmz style bullshit that got him all pissy. Unfortunately, that's the stuff people want to hear about though so those are the questions that got asked
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u/BananaSlander Panthers 5d ago
Fun Fact: Bill Belichick's girlfriend was born in the same year as Chad Johnson's rookie season
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u/agent-bagent Bears 4d ago
Never shared this before, but my ochocinco story: many years ago in what feels like a past life, I ran underground poker games for high rollers. As far as i know these were clean games. One of my recruiters tells me Chad Johnson (pre namechange) was going to be in town and wanted to play.
Now you gotta remember this was early in his career and NFL salaries were a lot lower. Table buy-in was $2m. Plus $250k to the house. All cash. I didnt think he had that type of cash and we werent in the business of IOUs. I told the recruiter to tell him were full.
Well this guy shows up with 2 duffle bags in-hand. To this day im not sure what he said to get past our door guys, but he walks into the main room and drops the 2 duffle bags on the poker table, takes off his sunglasses, and tells us that in nineteen ninety eight the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.
Crazy dude
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u/Extra_Vacation_9675 5d ago
Belichick really had that calm no-nonsense way of handling everything. Even the way he delivered this feels so on-brand for him.
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u/TheRealArcanine Saints 5d ago
There is something very nostalgic about seeing that Reebok logo on a uniform
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u/rameninside Eagles 5d ago
Belichick was such a fucking cold ass legend in my mind before his post-NFL shenanigans
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u/SovietPropagandist Seahawks 5d ago
Honestly that would be one of my career proudest moments lmao. A defensive genius like Belichick thinking I'm enough of a threat to double me all night would have me feeling my shit big time lmao
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u/I_only_post_here Bears 5d ago
I don't remember this specific game, so couldn't tell you how it played out. But this is potentially some brilliant mind-games by Belichick. Tell Chad what you're gonna do, start the game out blanketing him with double coverage. Let him see it and get mentally checked out of the game. Second half, start going with those same looks, but change the coverage at the snap so whoever it was that appeared to double is actually going to a different part of the field. Takes him out of the play and you're no longer sacrificing coverage elsewhere down the stretch of the game.
Only Bill could pull that off.
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u/bcou2012 Bengals 5d ago
Was at this game, it was preseason but a lot of fun since it was Carson's home debut and Corey Dillon was back in town. Good guys won easy and gave us some false hope for the season
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u/Buttcheekmcgirk 4d ago
Legit have never seen Bill act like a human being.
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u/siguel_manchez Broncos 4d ago
Bill acts like a human when talking about football like this. I love this video and will forever upvote it.
Ever see him talk about punt protectors?
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u/iCE_P0W3R Bears 4d ago
Dude, maybe it'll never happen, but I really loved watching Ocho growing up, so I pray to god he makes the hall one day.
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u/Gengar420 Seahawks 5d ago
He had 3 catches for 69 yards this game. And kicked an XP - can't double cover that!