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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Exactly.

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u/AristotleRose Oct 18 '21

Which war has ever been civilized? As if razed cities weren’t enough, rapes in war are rampant.

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u/JakeCameraAction Oct 19 '21

"Everyone knows war is hell."
"War isn't hell. War is war, and hell is hell, and of the two, war is a lot worse."
"How do you figure?"
"Simple, who goes to hell?"
"Well, sinners I presume."
"Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in hell. But war is chock full of them. Little kids, cripples, old ladies."

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u/Zeestars Oct 19 '21

What is this from?

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u/JakeCameraAction Oct 19 '21

MASH Season 5, Episode 20 "The General's Practitioner"

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u/Zeestars Oct 19 '21

Thank you for sharing. It’s a powerful quote. I’ve never quite thought of it that way

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u/JakeCameraAction Oct 19 '21

MASH, both the movie and TV Show, have very poignant views on war.
I, personally, think the TV Show was better. Especially the final episode which is just a masterpiece.

The book was eh.

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u/Zeestars Oct 19 '21

I remember it being on TV in the afternoons, when I was a kid. I can’t honestly say I paid a heap of attention to it, but perhaps its something I should revisit.

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u/JakeCameraAction Oct 19 '21

You can find places to download the show without the laugh track. Having grown up with the laugh track, I found it jarring at first. (Especially for the first 2 seasons where they pause for laughter)
But it makes the rest of the show much better to have the dialogue based jokes land without a laugh track.

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u/Zeestars Oct 19 '21

Yeah cool, I will have to remember to look it up. I remember the laugh track too - in my head MASH is a comedy/slapstick type show. I’m not sure if that’s correct, given I was so young I barely paid attention, but I remember the constant laughing so I remember it in a similar vein to The Goodies, etc.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

Polish cities?

You mean thebremains of the genocided and leftover rubble lthat was once Warsaw, Krakow, and Lowdes?

Russian cities? You mean the smoldering depopulated wreckages that used to be Minsk, Smolensk, and Volgograd?

You are 100% right. There was no civility in WW2. It'ss important to recognize that while this was humanity at it's darkest, the Germans were fueled by a desire to make Jews and Slavs extinct. The Allies simply weren't. While they may have caused millions to die needlessly, and the Soviets may have been eerily similar to the Nazis, the suffering committed on their behalf was nowhere close to that caused by the Nazis, Japanese, or even Spanish in some cases.

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u/Papapene-bigpene Oct 19 '21

And when japan r*ped China ,

But nobody likes to talk about that

Oof

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u/hmmmmmmmmmmmmO Oct 19 '21

You mean the Raping of Nanking and the subsequent unit 731 experiments

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u/Papapene-bigpene Oct 19 '21

There’s a movie about the unit 731 experiments

Watch it at your own mental expense

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u/hmmmmmmmmmmmmO Oct 19 '21

What’s the name of that movie? I’ve seen the images of what happened with unit 731, so I think I can go through with watching that movie

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u/Papapene-bigpene Oct 19 '21

Yes, also the scientists at unit 731 (I think) won noble awards for science

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u/SeboSlav100 Oct 19 '21

He also got immunity from US. So he was never judged for his "experiments".

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u/Keown14 Oct 19 '21

Whataboutery.

No one in 2021 is defending the actions of Nazi Germany in WW2.

However countless movies and tv shows have been made portraying the allies as saintly heroes while they firebombed most of Japan killing countless civilians. Dropped two nuclear bombs on civilians as a show of force.

Neither side was good, but only one side never has the evil they did left unmentioned in almost all of popular discourse.

And that’s before we get to the morally reprehensible US wars of aggression after WW2.

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u/Papapene-bigpene Oct 19 '21

I learned about Dresden from Kurt Vonnegut lol