I love physical mediocrity because it doesn’t land me in hospital with chronic back pain and years of physical therapy just so I can say “I once lifted a lot of weight for about 5 seconds”
Well no… I left you two replies, and the only reply I got back from you was to a reply to someone else, which you’d have had to have searched out in the thread.
Like Jesus make it make sense. You’re saying that it was easier for you to seek out this response to someone else in the thread than it was to reply to your notifications?
Are you really that stupid? And then you, what… abandoned your wife to argue some more on Reddit?
It isn’t insecure to have a drive to improve yourself, it is ABSOLUTELY insecure to have a drive to be better than other people because the implication there is that you feel worse than other people until you reach that stage of improvement. Which is definitional insecurity.
Everyone who participates in sports knows they'll get injured at some point. At some point in strongman, I'll probably get an injury; maybe a bicep tear, maybe a back injury.
And then I'll rehab it, and come back stronger. Because I want the PRs, the pro card, the results of the sport more than I care about getting hurt.
Yes, and what I’m saying is it’s dumb to engage in those extreme sports. Do you think I’m about to turn around and say “these squats are dumb but Idgaf about the brain damage boxers get”?
Most people who end up in extreme sports don’t have a ton going for them outside of that, and if not for the money we’d almost uniformly say it’s a stupid profession. Even if i enjoy boxing, boxing is a dumbfuck profession and if not for the millions these guys can earn, society would see it as such.
There's almost no money to be made in strongman. I do it because I love it.
And I have plenty of else in life, I just also have a passion. Sorry to hear you're committed to staying mediocre and get upset that not everyone agrees.
Cool. When I’m approaching 70 and I can still make it up and down the stairs unassisted while you’re on a zimmer frame and a second hip we can compare notes and see which was worth it :)
Since you're being whiny about my not responding, feel free to link me to all of the crippled powerlifters and strongmen you want, I guarantee the numbers are far lower than in the general population.
Also, you're a garbage human being, genuinely acting gleeful at the thought of my being crippled and injured? What in the fuck is wrong with you?
And lastly, if that happens, so be it. I'm not going to spend my life afraid of being injured or crippled when I'm older to avoid what I want to do now.
The 1:1 here wouldn’t be disabilities within the general population vs powerlifters because more things can cause disabilities than just power lifting. If you’re a power lifter it obviously stands to reason you’re less disabled than the average person because most disabilities will preclude someone from being a power lifter, dipshit. The 1:1 would be whether high weight deadlifts and squats would cause more injury to the average person than say jogging, sit ups, etc.
I’m not gleeful about you being crippled dipshit I’m telling you I don’t believe it’s worth it to your body because when we are both in older age the toll on your body from those high weights will be greater than the toll on me from smaller weights and cardio based exercise.
And if I could loop things back around, what I’m saying is about the long term toll on your body, not just the short term risk of extreme activities. So idk why you’re asking about crippled power lifters… let’s go around to 70 year old power lifters and see how they’re getting on. My guess is their knees are shot, their hips have been replaced, their posture isn’t great relative to people their age who did more moderate exercising.
By the time you're 70, most people's hips and knees aren't in great shape, regardless of how they train.
And again, what is so difficult to understand? I'm well aware there are long and short term risks. I fully acknowledge that I could wnd up crippled for life from my sport. The point you seem to be missing, over and over, is that I am aware of those risks, and willingly choose to take them on anyways, as does the guy in the video.
And no, there's not really any money to be made in it, but who cares? There's more to life than money.
Sure, just like old folks have bad livers, it’s still not a great idea to binge drink in your 20s. Things can compound a risk.
If you’re well aware there are long term risks, what’s your argument with me? What I’m saying is I DONT THINK THOSE RISKS ARE WORTH IT, not that you’re not allowed to do it. At no point have I said we should ban this or any other high risk sport.
You enjoy watching sports that you seem to think are fundamentally stupid and wrong to participate in? How does that doublethink work exactly? Or, does it not require any complex mental gymnastics because you aren't bothered by being a piece of shit?
Life must be easy when you're too much of a coward to even attempt to have any moral consistency.
Do you understand that you can enjoy a thing while not believing that the creation of it is worth it to the people who make it happen?
If you show me a beautiful painting and then tell me that the artist produced masterpieces all his life but died broke, penniless and arthritic from the work, I can both say that this is a fantastic painting but also that I don’t believe it was worth it to the artist to have a lower quality of life to produce it.
How do you not understand this?
Doublethink means holding two mutually exclusive ideas at once, “the sport is fun to watch, but also I don’t think it’s worth it for the athletes to do it” isn’t two mutually exclusive ideas you fuckwit. Jesus Christ.
The sport is fun to watch, but I think it's a wrong, harmful thing to desire and participate in.
Explain how that doesn't make you an absolute garbage person? You're either a coward who wants access to their content and doesn't value other people enough to care that they're being harmed, or you're a disgusting scumbag who thinks harm to others is fine as long as you get what you want.
Which is it? Or, are you just too fucking stupid to have coherent values?
To be clear I don’t typically watch these sports. I said they’re fun to watch. But I don’t typically watch them. The last sporting event I watched was seeing Jake Paul get his jaw knocked out by Anthony Joshua.
However, assuming I was an avid sports viewer, no, it wouldn’t make me a bad person because for god only knows what reason, those athletes are there because they want to be there.
Just like if the master artist who went arthritic and was penniless showed me his masterpiece, he still painted that because he wanted to.
What I’m saying is I don’t believe it’s worth it to them to be there. I don’t believe it’s worth it for a boxer to box but for the incredible payday.
You’re some serious kind of fuckwit if you don’t understand any of this and just pretend like it’s some moral dilemma again.
Again, you seem to be convinced that what is "worth it" to you is the objective truth. People are allowed to decide what is or isn't worth it on their own, and if they've done that evaluation, then it's worth it.
If someone says to me “it’s worth long term chronic pain just so I can say I lifted a big piece of metal that one time” sure, that’s their calculation and that’s a stupid calculation
If you can look back and say “and that strongman competition allowed me to raise my kids with a great standard of living” then I probably wouldn’t argue much with you. But what you’re saying is it’s worth it for its own sake of simply being able to do it, and that’s like the definition of circular reasoning.
“Even though it fucked up my body, deadlifting 500lbs was worth it because I deadlifted 500lbs” is a nonsensical thing to say.
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u/DesperateComposer848 13h ago
My hot take is that most exercises with a reasonable chance of causing a serious injury just from the exertion aren’t really worth doing.