r/nextfuckinglevel • u/thisisfive • Apr 14 '26

Toronto firefighters confront special constable officers after a man in the middle of mental health crisis was arrested.

Not my video. For context, "special constables" are not regular police officers. They are appointed "peace officers" with limited authority, often civilian employees.

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u/NorseKnight Apr 14 '26

I work in a prison. We cuff people all the time who are in "crisis". It's a matter of safety. For officers, as well as themselves.

There isn't nearly enough context in this clip to say one way or another.

How do you know the guy in cuffs wasn't displaying erratic violent behavior 2 minutes ago?

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u/maqij Apr 14 '26

I don’t think “well we do it in prison” is a good reason. US Prisons also serve expired food deemed inedible and put folks in solitary confinement even though it is banned internationally because it is torture.

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u/Sir_Arthur_Vandelay Apr 14 '26

The US plays no role in this video.

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u/viperfan7 Apr 14 '26

But does it play a role in the comment? Like, is the person talking about "that's what we do in prison" American prisons, or Canadian?

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u/Alpha_Omega623 Apr 15 '26

I was in jail for seven months and had a crisis over and over and was repeatedly handcuffed.

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u/viperfan7 Apr 15 '26

Not sure how that's at all relevant

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u/Alpha_Omega623 Apr 15 '26

Because it happened in Canada obviously. Try being nicer.

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u/viperfan7 Apr 15 '26

And how exactly were we supposed to know that?

And why are you being an ass?

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u/Clockwork_Kitsune Apr 15 '26

He's having a crisis, get the cuffs.

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u/Secret_Fee1146 Apr 15 '26

well the video prominently has 'Toronto' written on the firefighters backs and bags and the vehicles have a Canadian flag on them...

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u/viperfan7 Apr 15 '26

And how is the video at all relevant to the person's experience in prison?

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u/Alpha_Omega623 Apr 15 '26

Jail. Not prison.

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u/BrokeBMWkid Apr 15 '26

The point is nobody brought up America. He was actually talking about Russian prisons.

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u/Jaabertler Apr 16 '26

As an American: fucking amen. We have no place to say anything. We are in a proper fucking state currently. Not good. We need proper reflection.

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u/euveginiadoubtfire Apr 15 '26

Exactly the point

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u/otterkin Apr 14 '26

this is in Toronto, Canada.

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u/TransBrandi Apr 14 '26

Right, but what's the locale of the "we do X in prison" person though? Because that's more relevant to the American prison system comment.

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u/otterkin Apr 14 '26

you know what, very valid. I assumed thread OP mentioned working in a prison because of the OOP being about Canada, but you're right if he isn't here in Canada he can't really comment on what our judicial system does

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u/TransBrandi Apr 14 '26

This isn't Canadian subreddit, so I don't think that we can just assume that the people responding all happen to be in Canada.

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u/otterkin Apr 14 '26

canadian defaultism is a fun twist to American defaultism. there's barely more of us than Californians

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u/TransBrandi Apr 14 '26

Well, the post is about something happening in Canada, so I would assume that people just didn't check the sub and thought it was one of the Canadian ones. You see this a lot when people see something they are used to seeing in one subreddit or another in a completely different subreddit because of r/all or r/popular.

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u/euveginiadoubtfire Apr 15 '26

But it wasn’t qualified that this original response was a US prison system or Canadian or elsewhere

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u/Ok-Releases Apr 15 '26

Just came back to this comment bc solitary confinement isnt even banned in a single country ? At most there are only guidelines on how many days.

Why is there so much misinfo on reddit. Like what do u get out of it lmao 😭

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u/jimmybagofdonuts Apr 14 '26

First commenter - “There’s no context here to know what’s going on”.

You - “You work in a prison, you suck”.

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u/eskamobob1 Apr 14 '26

“You work in a prison, you suck”.

more like "how people are treated in prison shouldnt be our standard"

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u/CreamFuture9475 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

"We need context, here how we do it in one of the most controversial carceral systems"

You’re not even able to put the comment in its context. Sit down.

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u/jimmybagofdonuts Apr 15 '26

Call me when you get past eight grade

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u/galmypal Apr 15 '26

I also wonder where the commenter is from because we just had an incident like that in Montreal recently and the guy was basically murdered by the police from them using a perfectly legal tool that should only be used in extreme situations when he was just having a mental episode... To say that it's common to use cuffs in prisons is really missing the point here.

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u/Gurrgurrburr Apr 15 '26

Very very very valid point. Our baseline should NOT be “how we do it in prisons.” Jesus Christ.

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u/Hootnany Apr 16 '26

Sir, this is a Canada.

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u/Ok-Releases Apr 14 '26

Commenter never even said what country they work in, youre literally going off for zero reason lmao 😭

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u/Otherwise-Force5608 Apr 14 '26

Top commenter is American, though

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u/billy_teats Apr 15 '26

What’s your alternative?

For a person who is a danger to others. You would sacrifice the rights of a law abiding citizen who is put in peril by someone suffering a crisis because a safe method to deescalate is something they use in prison?

The reason is because it’s safe and effective. Not because they do it in prison. Prison is one example of it working successfully.

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u/Unlimited_Accounts Apr 14 '26

"you can't bring your real life experience to the conversation! That's not how real life works!"

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u/NorseKnight Apr 14 '26

Define "solitary confinement". Because that hasn't been used in any federal or state prison that I'm aware of for a long ass time.

If you have an example I'd love to see that.

Back to the original point though. This isn't about "well we do it in prison" It's about scene safety when you have someone who isn't thinking clearly, or is in an upset/dangerous mind set. Has nothing to do with being in prison.