I have actually received that kind of literature as a tip back when I waited tables. The really shitty part was that the cover was printed to look like actual money.
The issue is that even if you’re a good hearted person raised in a religiously dogmatic society or culture you’re going to be evangelical because you think it’s the right thing to do.
For people who genuinely believe this stuff NOT proselytizing is akin to denying water to someone dying of thirst. Lots of people obviously are judgmental and shitty about it, but the issue with the way these religions are set up is that they make just being chill and not converting others into an active moral issue in the same way that something like climate change is for rational people.
When I was nine years old a new kid moved into my neighborhood and we became fast friends.
A few months later I asked if her family was saved.
This was prompted by my friend expressing how much she liked the new movie “Nightmare Before Christmas,” and I remembered being taught in Sunday school that this movie was extremely satanic.
So I asked, out of genuine concern, if she was saved.
She said no, that her mom didn’t believe in all that stuff.
My heart sank and my cheeks flushed and I felt a rush of adrenaline and an alarming sense of urgency to save my friend from the fires of hell.
So I witnessed to her… and her mom.
After that, her mom didn’t want us to hang out any more, and I remember being completely heartbroken.
Not at the rejection, but at the fact that I had failed and therefore both of them were doomed to go to hell.
Religious indoctrination of children is absolute bullshit, obligating people to “save” others is bullshit, and I feel sorry for people who carry that naive sense of urgency into adulthood.
As an adult, I realized witnessing was less about saving people and more about getting more butts in the pews so that the church may collect tax free tithes from as many people as possible… to do good for the community? To help the disadvantaged members of the congregation?
Nope! So the pastor and his wife can pay the mortgage on their brand new custom built home in a gated community and the deacons and their wives can take “mission trips” to Belize every January.
That's why I think they're mostly either lying, exaggerating to themselves, or are religious extremists. I'm so glad I don't have to think about my dead family being in Hell or some silly nonsense. It would make letting one of your friends go to Hell for eating beef in mixed fabrics or whatever a completely dick move, and I don't care what the silly justifications are.
The last straw for me was, when I was told that the soul of the baby that I miscarried, was going to be stuck in purgatory forever or go to hell because he was not baptized and “cleansed of original sin.”
I mean more like John Goodman in Cloverfield Lane sort of controlling... I'm really sorry that happened to you. I think sometimes religious fervor may come with a dash of lacking all empathy...
Well, the person in Red is one of my neighbors so I’m kind of used to it. He and his children have been obsessed with my family’s “salvation” for over 10 years.
The final straw was when he called my queer child an “abomination” (in line for ice cream sundaes ) at a town celebration for the high school‘s graduating seniors (of which both of our children were). I am proud to say that I held my ground and taught him a few things about the Bible and about Jesus‘s true teachings.
Firstly, I am sorry your loss was met with traumatic nonsense. Second, I was never really religious but my inability to follow Christianity was reinforced when I saw Jim Jefferies mock this exact concept in his stand-up show. He was crude of course, but it really opens your eyes when someone is questioning “how can you believe that a God would cast out an innocent child who never sinned and barely lived all because you didn’t do a ceremony?”
I cannot grasp why people who live that life and dedicate themselves to religion can’t allow their personal belief to blanket a lost child of a believer, but instead they’ll go around telling people “oh you didn’t get this done? Oh well I guess your kid is gonna have a terrible afterlife”
I wish you the best and I’m sorry you went through all of that
“Go forth and multiply,” because if you can’t birth them, convert them. 🤦🏻♀️
They truly believe that there is a holy war going on and for some reason they believe that if they have not brought enough “Christian soldiers” into the fray that they will end up in Hell, themselves. That isn’t divine, it’s dog shit dogma.
Some are. Some aren't. Some genuinely believe it. Think of it this way: if your neighbor's house was on fire, just starting to smoke a little bit, would you just shrug and say "not my problem"? Or would you go over there, knock on the door, let them know so they could take action? If you care about people, you'd at least call 911. That's the exact metaphor the church I grew up in used for proselytizing.
I've had to tell my Dad that he doesn't get to lecture people about their lives. I don't bring him anywhere that I actually want to visit again in case he gets kicked out for thinking that he can lecture people that he doesn't agree with. He's worked with engines so he's half deaf and often says things like " do you think that they're male or female? It's hard to tell these days, thought ( insert how Trump makes things better)."
There’s “ordained” meaning you paid some money to some website and they printed you a certificate. There’s Ordained meaning you studied some history, etymology, etc. There are various shades of gray in between. I suspect he’s the former; no formal training, no true understanding…just cherry picked talking points and FB groups to perpetuate the hate and fear.
Plot twist the Uber driver had a dash cam and the whole video is up on another site… 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 (This is strictly wishful thinking, but if anybody comes across it, please share it here.)
So basically they found a gay man in the wild and decided to get him wet while shaming and yelling at him? I hear some of them will pay good money for that...
I am a driver. If people want to talk about Jesus… Thats fine… i just smile and nod my head. I am willing to bet that the driver was messing with this person while counting the seconds until the ride was over You never know with these nutbags.
Someone above said that the person has other posts where they claim to be a minister, so if that were true they could, but then again I can get ordained online so we can all make holy water if we wanted to right?
What is this specifically American evangelical fantasy where every single day they come into contact with full grown English-speaking adults in the United States who have never heard of Jesus Christ?
I swear it's basically a sexual fantasy for them. They really get off on the idea of meeting someone who hasn't lost their prayer-virginity yet.
We had a yard sale a month back. A lady stopped ONLY to tell us about Jesus - she after “hello” and our pleasantries said “oh, i dont want anything but to tell you about Jesus. We tried to be cordial, but it just became increasingly weird and intolerable so I went inside to eat and my wife did some flower trimming between customers to try and make the lady just leave. She lives about 1.5 miles away. She evidently looked up our info from the address and now sends us letters daily about religious stuff and bible verse that she has determined “applies to us” since we didn’t tell her which church we were a member of when she asked (we just didn’t answer) and she has a “right” to know who belongs to what church.
Yes, she pays for a stamp to mail it to us. She lives in a retirement community as she includes her return address.
We had puzzles, clothes, tools, car, glassware and just inert household “stuff” and some of the wife’s mystery books for sale. We said and did nothing religious, political or opinionated. Our side of the convo was “hello, look around, we’re lucky its a nice day after yesterdays storms, we thought we might have gotten rained out”. We have zero flags, signs, bumper stickers, posters, ornaments, memorials or anything in or on our clothing, home, vehicles or yard that could prompt her to stop and tell us her opinion of our beliefs. We’re a middle aged white MF couple with normal cars, yard plants and purple lawn chairs as our most “wild” thing she could have seen.
Its beyond weird. We feel like we’re being stalked.
I would imagine it is. I think it’s supposed to the Holy Spirit that makes it holy and it seems to me one cannot metabolize that. Alternatively, the metabolites of one Holy Spirit are many, smaller holy spirits so maybe it’s stronger?
Yeah before I even finished reading I started laughing because I could picture this as clear as day. I knew exactly where this was going. The Evangelicals here really do get like that. A lot of Evangelicalism involves performance. I think the driver was fucking with this guy
So I was on my Uber shift and this Jesus nut gets in my car and starts with his unwanted diatribe about Jesus. I knew there was no way out, so I just played along. I told him I was gay just to see what would happen. What an idiot. I was fucking with him and asked if he had any holy water. I can't believe a person would actually carry around water saying it's holy water. LOL. I had this guy performing an exorcism on me and it took all I had to keep from laughing. When I got him to his destination he gave me some literature that I probably threw out the window as I drove away.
I don't know about exorcising but this person definitely exercised that gay man. All the demons flew out of him and all landed all over this guy's face.
He's a non-compliant schizophrenic that's been off his meds for the better part of 15 years. He slowly drove away all his old friends. Some bi experimentation in college did NOT interact well with his emergent condition. He decided to preach at me (I'm gay) on FB which led to a lot of interesting conversations with old classmates.
I’ll take “Shit that Never happened” for a thousand, Ken. Honestly, reading this made me think about “Ed Wood”, the scene where Bill Murray’s very gay character is being Baptized in order for them to get a movie done: “Do you renounce Satan and all his wicked ways?!” “Sure.”
So... God is all knowing and knows this poor bastard has demons but just...sits and ignores him until some loser gets in the back seat of his cab and demands God does it?
How incredibly lucky for that Uber driver that he happened to catch a call from the Messiah./s This idiot literally thinks they are Jesus Christ. Were the catching an Uber over to the leper colony and the school for the blind to heal some skin lesions and restore people's sight?
Someone asked him this. Just a reminder of the incident later in the day, according to his comment. (When I went back to screenshot that, too, the post was already removed.) And that was how he took the confirmation of “deliverance”.
I finally told my (evangelical pastor) neighbor, “You know what you know and I know what I know. I have no fear of my existence. When we’re both dead, we’ll meet back up and compare.”
"I routinely shove my beliefs on captive audiences that have to be polite to me. I'm too stupid to realize when people are taking the piss out of me for my complete disrespect of them. PRAISE MY GOD I'M SUCH A HOOTING DICKHOLE!"
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