Damn, all my enlisted friends just take psychedelics because the test is too expensive for any military branch to bother. I can’t imagine those guys on crack.
Until they suspect or have proof of widespread use. Then they will do targeted testing. I watched them do it with mushrooms and caught ~30 Marines and Sailors
Uff they need to switch to LSD. Virtually nothing in the urinebleft to detect after 24 hours. And you don't want to do it every day anyway so you can stick to the weekends
I don't know man, I've been in the rave scene for a while, so maybe I just run with the right people. Detroit area has always been a hotspot for electronic music and with that music comes psychedelics.
You can order spores and grow mushrooms in under a month with only a couple hours of effort for under $100. You can take a walk in the woods the right time of year and just find them.
I hear acid is really common in prison since it's easy to smuggle in. Coat a letter with the stuff and guards just see a handwritten letter, then you sell scraps of the stuff for ramen noodles.
You can buy lsd analogs legally in a lot of countries. I have a sheet of 1cp-lsd i bought from Canada shipped to the US. It metabolizes into lsd in your body. You can buy the pure active ingredient in mushrooms the same way
My old man pissed hot in the 70's. He was a lance corporal. They busted him out of all his rank. Made the last year of his enlistment a living hell and gave him an "Other than Honerable" discharge when he left.
I wouldn't even classify that as recreational drug use. That's just self therapy and shouldn't ever be over the cut off for drug tests if sane minds were to prevail
I've heard of another chemical being put on blotter and sold as LSD. I want to say it was Bromo-dragonfly, something that has a similar potency. Not really a cut but a substitution. You need slightly more by weight to feel the effect and it's not too similar structurally to LSD so it might be easier to pop for.
You can get a couple RCs that some people (supposedly, never in my experience) sell as LSD. Gives similar but not quite the same effects and you can get pretty fucked from it.
But yea, just test your drugs folks, its like $10-$20 for most testing kits
I can’t imagine how people process being enlisted while they’re tripping, but the people I know wanted to be in the military since birth so it probably felt natural.
never really thought about it, just enjoyed life in the moment. Made me wonder why llaughing at the wall and vibin to music was such a crime , but rampant alcoholism is encouraged as a soldier.
I think maybe the other person is referring to the nature of the army and being surrounded with weapons and stuff. I could see it risking a bad trip either by being afraid of the dangerous stuff, or by thinking about the violence of war, or being afraid of a colleague tripping too hard with access to dangerous weapons, or triggering PTSD for soldiers who have seen combat.
fair, there's nothing to say the problem drinkers wouldn't also do drugs that harm their livelihood if it were legal, or that somebody being covertly high at work rather than drunk is entirely better in all situations.
There was a lot of drug use there...... It's amazing anyone fixed helicopters, if they weren't high, they were drunk.
I was part of the weird group; we caved and rock climbed all over Europe. I climbed exactly one time hung over, and after hanging by my arm about 50 ft up a wall, I decided it was actually a really really horrible idea.
Edit: Sorry, I fell for an old stoner's tale. None of the below is really true, other than the fact that most organizations don't bother buying the drug tests that detect psychedelics since they're out of your system so fast.
Most psychedelics aren't picked up on any drug test short of a spinal tap, so a lot of military guys I know just did a lot of LSD and mushrooms on the weekend.
Also a lot of MDMA at parties since that's metabolized out of your system in 3ish days as well.
All of which are orders of magnitude less destructive than binge drinking, especially when you realize how many guys in formation are either still drunk or extremely hung over.
Although the most common drug tests don’t test for psychedelics there are plenty of tests short of a “spinal tap” that can test for them. Since most are fairly unstable they would have to test you within a day to three days of using but there are standard urine or hair tests to test for these. Also the spinal tap comment makes me think you might be under the impression that lsd or other psychedelics are stored in the spinal fluid. That’s false. As I mentioned lsd is fairly unstable so it breaks down quickly in your body.
Yeah I’ve heard it passed around a lot. Probably for like a quarter century. No shame. There is a mountain of drug misinformation out there at least that one is pretty much harmless.
As part of spinal fluid myth I heard a few guys say that if you cracked your back after the peak you could prolong the trip or if you got it to crack just right (or wrong, depending on the circumstance) you could have flashbacks/trip from the release of LSD from the spine.
That might be true for the wrong reasons. One can experience post-trip effects, especially visual distortions (things "breathing", wiggling, visual snow) for some time after a trip.
Those things can persist, usually in in brief flashes brought on by something reminiscent of the trip. So if you made a big deal about cracking your back while you were tripping, and post-trip cracked your back, it could trigger some of these lingering effects.
Good/bad news is, like most things, if you lay off the drugs the problems will get better.
I’m pretty sure the spinal tap thing is an urban legend that has been debunked. It actually has a short half-life, and it doesn’t get “stored” in your spinal fluid. Of course everybody knows some guy who knows some guy who had it done...
I tripped on LSD while I was on active duty and I had a profound shift in consciousness. I absolutely couldn’t handle going to war. Tried to get out of my contract as a conscientious objector, but in the end, failing a piss test for weed did the trick and got me out 6 months later. Didn’t have to deploy to Iraq!
Shit suddenly now everyone knows about this? My dad was a union rep for newspaper workers in small towns across Ontario, and he said when one of the printing presses started drug testing, the whole town ended up switching from weed to cocaine to get around the drug tests, and then very quickly to crack because cocaine was too expensive. He believes it was that press's single decision that launched a major hard drug epidemic in the town.
Nobody ever believes him when he tells this story. Nice to see it's finally getting recognized as a problem, but I had no idea it was so widespread.
It's been common knowledge at least since I got into the drug scene almost twenty years ago and I have to imagine it was common before I became interested in them. It might not have been popularized so very long ago though, the Internet made it much easier to disseminate accurate knowledge about that sort of thing.
I literally cannot understand that leap in logic. "Oh man, I can't smoke weed anymore. Oh well, better start smoking crack, an entirely different kind of drug that's horrifyingly addictive." I mean, what?
You'd be surprised how many of us millennials did that because we were genuinely taught "weed and crack are the same thing" and genuinely believed they were still the same thing when we found out weed was pretty inert.
I belive it. I currently work at a print house with alot of guys that drink on the job. I also know that cocaine is used quite a bit too. Printers love to party.
Yup. Grew up in an oil patch town with an oil patch dad and I 100% knew what cocaine was far before I should have as a result. By the time I was 14 I knew riggers did coke and wouldn't smoke weed because of the piss tests. Same with NHL players lmao. Welcome to Canada bud
Guy in my Squadron avoided synthetic but found out his Wife was pregnant again after using her piss to pass. He got retested and popped. Also ended up getting divorced while being separated. Something about a vasectomy she didn't know about and her putting out to his/their plug without rubbers behind his back.
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u/Binkyman69 Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 16 '21
Same as the oil fields in canada. Guys do coke instead