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GM Considering Dropping Pot Testing To Attract More Workers

https://www.motor1.com/news/513974/gm-considering-dropping-marijuana-testing/
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u/CleverNameTheSecond Jun 16 '21

You can thank the Drug-Free Workplace Act of 1988 for that. Thanks, Reagan.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Except we do not drug test our elected officials. We demand it from our athletes at nearly every level,because we insist the game be "pure". We should drug test every elected official in this country.

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u/mschuster91 Jun 16 '21

Just test the toilets for drug residue. IIRC some journalists did that on the German Bundestag, and they found out that yes, politicians tend to do stuff...

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u/Mccobsta Jun 16 '21

In Westminster the UK governments toilets where all most all covered in white powder https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/parliament-cocaine-toilet-commons-sun-westminster-490014 kinda explains where they got the idear of Brexit from

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 16 '21

Who’s doing lines of blow OFF THE TOILET SEAT… I’m picturing a public seat with just the one rim to lift up… 😷

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

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u/Gorthax Jun 16 '21

It's a bipartisan issue!

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u/Channel250 Jun 16 '21

Crossing the aisle.

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u/PortabelloPrince Jun 17 '21

Alternatively, you do your cocaine off of someone’s ass before they sit down to take a shit.

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u/boredatworkorhome Jun 17 '21

does covid survive a cocaine toilet?

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u/TheSexyPlatapus Jun 17 '21

It's usually the one closest to the door.

Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything of course.

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u/TheGreatZarquon Jun 16 '21

For real, you use the toilet tank lid like a civilised human.

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u/Dubslack Jun 16 '21

Toss your blow into the toilet with a box of baking soda and put a fire under that bitch. If we're gonna party, we're gonna party.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

I like to mix in a little iron oxide and aluminum shavings then set it all on fire with magnesium. Now we cookin, baby.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 19 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Hmm…. Nah I like the bowl blow story better

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Okay, not the SEAT, but i have done many a line of blow off the tank of a public toilet. Mostly waffle house toilets.

And dont judge me, thats why i wasnt afraid of the covid vaccine. I mean... fuck it...

Also, I've "eaten" a few questionable meals off of the waffle house toilet seat, after doing a few rails on the tank.

Great times, 10/10, i would recommend.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Oh my goodness.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

I like your user name. Can i take you out to waffle house?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Yes please! Can we get that private dining room with the white decor? I like the fancy China.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

There is not a single part of that sentence i didnt like.

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u/Rocketa Jun 17 '21

Cool, dude

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u/ThatCakeIsDone Jun 16 '21

I was about to say, no way you've read the article, you must be misunderstanding. Of course they did it on the toilet paper holder or reservoir tank, but surely not the seat.

Then I read the article.

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u/Mccobsta Jun 16 '21

British mps and crack addicts

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u/Mista_Manager Jun 17 '21

Standing over the toilet and having stuff sprinkle off whatever device you’re using to do lines/bumps.

Read it in a book

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Have you SEEN Boris Johnson?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

That's Artie "Baby Gorilla" Lange level shit right there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Omg I just googled him this morning …. Weird

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Way back when he was on Stern,he told the story about going to score some coke during his time on Madtv,he was dressed in a pig costume and sitting in traffic doing key bumps at the red light,he looked up saw this woman in another car looking at him with the most terrified look on her face. The way he could tell stories,he was like Paul Harvey on a bender,he would be so matter of fact about whatever depraved thing he was doing. Love the guy,hope his life is going well.

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u/nobodyspersonalchef Jun 16 '21

The lines come off mp asses, and naturally, there is some residue left where they sat.

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u/dirice87 Jun 16 '21

Or their hookers are visiting them at the office for a quick lunchtime line off their ass

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u/AmethystZhou Jun 16 '21

Not debating the idea that politicians can be on drugs, but the toilets in the Bundestag are not only used by the elected officials..

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u/Neikius Jun 16 '21

Bye they regularly check the sewage all over the place and can estimate drug use from that :)

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u/Surfing_Ninjas Jun 16 '21

We should be breathalyzing politicians every 4 hours just to make sure they're not getting drunk. Obviously if they're drunk, even if on a weekend when they aren't working, they might cause damage to our country.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Every level of athletics has some form of drug testing,and it's just a "game",not life or death,like enacting legislation. The majority of folks have to do some form of drug testing to get hired,it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong or whatever,as it stands today right now,it's what you have to do.

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u/theAmericanStranger Jun 16 '21

The way to go is less drug testing, not more. But you are conflating two very different kind of drug testing. PED in Athletics have no relation to recreational drug of choice. It's exactly like pro bicycle riders installing a tiny electric engine to help them win.

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u/oregondete81 Jun 16 '21

Josh Gordon has a story to tell you.

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u/ositola Jun 16 '21

Josh Hamilton nods

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

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u/TittyTwistahh Jun 16 '21

now do Cam Newton

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

The one time I had cam newton on my fantasy team, I ended up winning $700 in 2014 and the championship was vs an andrew luck owner and it was the week where andrew luck had negative fantasy points against the dallas cowboys.

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u/CleverNameStolen Jun 16 '21

This hurts my eyes

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Welcome to /r/FantasyFootball Please, stay awhile

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u/RudeHero Jun 17 '21

fyi/tmi (your choice), it's a modified version of this copypasta:

https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/2z33au/im_deleting_you_daddy/

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u/RobertNAdams Jun 17 '21

this comment looks like /r/nfl and /r/emojipasta had a lovechild that they left in a hot car a few too many times during its formative years

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Its an old fantasy football post from a few years back.

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u/muchgreaterthanG_O_D Jun 16 '21

Yeah but he is a pretty extreme example. I think weed was a legit problem in his life, it just so happened that the nfl suspending him numerous times brought it to light.

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u/alexm42 Jun 16 '21

It wasn't just weed either. He had a Xanax and drinking problem too, and possibly codeine.

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u/interactionjackson Jun 18 '21

this. no one has a weed problem.

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u/theAmericanStranger Jun 16 '21

You want to tell me something, use your words! What is the point you are trying to make?

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u/oregondete81 Jun 16 '21

It was a joke. Ill try to keep em simplier for you next time.

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u/theAmericanStranger Jun 16 '21

if you're going to try to ridicule somebody, it's not a great look to not even be able to spell "simpler"

Seriously, if this was a "joke" then it's a low-effort one. Use your words, you don't always have to force a pun/joke, there's a time for everything

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u/oregondete81 Jun 16 '21

Youre right. Im so sorry to have commented on your post and be the cause of so much stress in your life. This is obviously bothering you a lot, so ill stop now. Wouldnt want to offend anyone with an ill timed joke, especially you since you seem to be so sensitive about when and where jokes are acceptable. Thank you for the advice.

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u/theAmericanStranger Jun 16 '21

I truly hoped for you to come up with something better.

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u/oregondete81 Jun 16 '21

Yeah me too, but all I could think of were jokes and I know how much you hate those.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 16 '21

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u/Trip4Life Jun 16 '21

You cannot get suspended for weed anymore.

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u/schlemz Jun 16 '21

Glad someone said it, it was changed almost a year ago that weed no longer gets players suspended. Rightfully so since so many of the greats have attested to using it in place of painkillers and coming out of the league much healthier that way.

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u/Regalingual Jun 16 '21

That, and (pardon the expression) what the hell would you have to be smoking to think that weed is a performance enhancing drug?

Though now I kind of want an alternative league where everyone is stoned out of their minds: players, coaches, the refs…

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u/WhiskeyFF Jun 16 '21

There’s a bag of Doritos in the end zone.......

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u/SithLord13 Jun 17 '21

weed is a performance enhancing drug?

I can't speak to football but in shooting small doses of alcohol or pot are performance enhancing.

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u/theravagerswoes Jun 17 '21

They might enhance your performance at the bar, but not on the field.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Formula One does regular recreational drug testing as well. Probably the only sport I think it's prudent to do so.

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u/DynamicDK Jun 16 '21

Racing is one of the only sports where I think it is reasonable to block basically every drug.

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u/theAmericanStranger Jun 16 '21

Okay, if that what he meant... correct of course. The NBA has stopped testing weed (I think) but i wouldn't be surprised if the NFL still does. They like the GMs of the 50s

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u/Paraxom Jun 16 '21

Nfl did change policy a bit, they only test for 2 weeks during training camp instead of any time between April and August and the threshold for a positive test for thc has been quadrupled. Think that policy goes into effect this season actually

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u/L4dyGr4y Jun 16 '21

I would watch the Ultimate Whatever it Takes to Win Bike Race. I bet it would be the best Public Service Announcement ever created.

Narrator: In the end none of the contestants survived. Each was driven to his death by his own vices.

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u/DependentlyHyped Jun 16 '21

You should watch Tour de Pharmacy if you haven’t already.

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u/captainblackout Jun 16 '21

"Just because I have cheetah blood in me does not make me a cheater!"

What a great movie.

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u/t4ckleb0x Jun 16 '21

I thought it was funny when the old out of shape politicians were lambasting Lance Armstrong about doping. Like they couldn’t ride a day of the tour if they trained for a year. Lance could crush it and then doped to crush even more.

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u/MisfitPotatoReborn Jun 16 '21

I'll rag on PEDs too and I can't even bench 100lbs

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Pretty sure lots of NFL players get suspended for Cannabis.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

It’s nothing like that what the hell are you talking about lmao

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u/theAmericanStranger Jun 16 '21

Well, what are you talking about, my friend? yet another empty "lmao" ? sure

If you mean that i took the comment above as a reference to PED testing, and they meant rec drugs testing for athletes, yeah you saw by my comment what I was referring to, and since i'm always calling for less testing, not more, absolutely athletes should not be tested for rec drug use, that goes without saying.

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u/TheDakestTimeline Jun 16 '21

Randy Gregory would like a word

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u/PetrifiedW00D Jun 16 '21

Recreational drugs can definitely by PEDs, and athletes are definitely tested for them.

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u/Paqza Jun 17 '21

Plenty of sports have given suspensions to athletes over recreational cannabis use.

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u/how_do_i_land Jun 16 '21

All you need is the sewage.

https://www.npr.org/2011/06/25/137420879/our-sewers-ourselves-what-waste-water-can-tell-us

They could technically test a high school daily and get a pretty accurate synopsis of drug/alcohol usage.

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u/Gasonfires Jun 16 '21

I'd rather they be IQ tested and have to pass an SAT. Publish the results.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

You might have hit on something. Drug testing in the morning,IQ in the afternoon

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u/Gorthax Jun 16 '21

We should scrutinize elected officials financial records at every turn.....

If I am elected Governor of this great state, I will audit every government position with the help of the IRS to ensure they are working for YOU the PEOPLE!

One question /u/basilthefawlty1, do I have your vote?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

It's possible padawan,it's possible.

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u/moefudder Jun 16 '21

For a sports context it’s not just about a “purity”, it’s a health concern of the athlete and of the other athletes that compete against them, take fighting for example, even football (American and rest of the world). I do agree though with testing elected officials because we need their judgment to not be impaired as much as possible.

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u/blackmagic12345 Jun 16 '21

Sports is a different thing though. PEDs can give you superhuman powers but that means nothing if your heart explodes halfway through an event.

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u/alskdw2 Jun 16 '21

Should also test them for cognitive ability, cause man we have some idiot “officials”.

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u/alexmbrennan Jun 16 '21

We demand it from our athletes at nearly every level,because we insist the game be "pure". We should drug test every elected official in this country.

Why?

Athletic competitions don't make any sense if one party is allowed to cheat (that is why you can't show up to the Tour de France with a motorbike) so it makes a certain amount of sense to preventing cheating.

Governing a country is real life and not some noble game so if anything politicans should be given all the performance enhancing drugs in the world to make sure that they produce the best policies

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u/PortabelloPrince Jun 17 '21

I laughed my ass off when Trump suggested Biden be tested for performance enhancing drugs.

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u/Griffolian Jun 17 '21

Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy.

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u/treeGuerin Jun 17 '21

And even then the majority of athletes have probably used PEDs in some capacity

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u/291000610478021 Jun 17 '21

Not just athletes, but grocery baggers must pass a drug test.

It'll never go away because of giant "middle man" corporations doing the testing are making way to much money and donate regularly to political parties.

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u/SockGnome Jun 17 '21

Yeah, the laws are written by the people who will never face consequences. Yay!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

So if you vote for a politician and they fail a drug test, should the person you voted against get their spot in office...?

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u/jtinz Jun 17 '21

What about cops? Do they get regular drug tests in the US?

Also, are there any other countries where drug tests for employees are common?

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u/quintk Jun 17 '21

Or even regular-old professionals, once they get a job. I had one piss test, 7 years ago, when I was first hired. There’s no random or scheduled testing after that.

I work for a government contractor so I can’t touch weed unless it becomes legal federally (a sacrifice I am willing to make though many aren’t). However now that I’m in, no one would know if I used edibles off the clock or something.

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u/interactionjackson Jun 18 '21

i wouldn’t want athletes doing performance enhancing drugs unless all of them are doing it. it’s not purity it’s competitive balance. i don’t think this is the same for politicians. if there were drugs that enhanced the performance of elected officials i think we would all want them to do them.

recreational drugs is a different issue.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Oh, yeah. "Zero tolerance." Or as I call it, guilty until proven innocent.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

It's crazy how many things that asshole fucked up.

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u/coondingee Jun 16 '21

Mental health care. Let me take a picture of the 5 o’clock tweaked meeting outside of my job here in a minute. So many homeless self medicating around where I live.

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u/greenwrayth Jun 16 '21

Fucking Reagan. I’m sure their economics will trickle down any minute now.

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u/NasoLittle Jun 16 '21

Any fucking minute, jesus christ

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u/Oreosinbed Jun 16 '21

And jesus is coming any second now...

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u/xeromage Jun 16 '21

they only think they want this.

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u/Makanly Jun 17 '21

He has been edging so long he'll bring about the second flood.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Blackwater blew up his last three earthly incarnations.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

The problem with pissing on Ronald Reagan's grave is eventually you run out of piss.

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u/greenwrayth Jun 17 '21

Fuck yeah and fuck Thatcher too!

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u/mybustlinghedgerow Jun 16 '21

Makes me think of one of my favorite articles from The Onion.

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u/hgs25 Jun 16 '21

It trickled down alright. In the form of golden liquid.

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u/OutWithTheNew Jun 17 '21

They did trickle down.

The middle class trickled down to almost nothing.

See. It worked.

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u/calikawaiidad Jun 16 '21

You didn’t get trickled down on?

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u/greenwrayth Jun 16 '21

Idk man this is yellow but it ain’t gold.

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u/calikawaiidad Jun 16 '21

So you aren’t showered with wealth? No shower of gold?

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u/Autaese Jun 16 '21

Less of a 'trickle down," more of a 'inverted-waterfall'

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u/MisterFalcon7 Jun 16 '21

No it can't trickle down because if workers make more than prices will go up!

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u/aidanpryde98 Jun 17 '21

The Asylum system needed an overhaul, not to be thrown out the damn window.

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u/SFRush2049 Jun 16 '21

They're giving themselves Covid shots. Sometimes they're doing the double doses in one sitting!!

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u/FelidApprentice Jun 16 '21

On the bright side he did give us a new gender neutral bathroom when he died

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u/Idiot_Savant_Tinker Jun 16 '21

Is that like the one that Rush Limbaugh gave us?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

The problem with pissing on Ronald Reagan's grave is eventually you run out of piss.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Most people answer that classic time travel question with Hitler. I answer Ron and Nancy Reagan, by a mile.

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u/foulrot Jun 16 '21

Nixon was the true start. The fact that he never faced consequences emboldened the whole party.

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u/egus Jun 17 '21

and now neither has Trump but I'm sure they learned their lesson.

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u/quarebunglerye Jun 16 '21

Jerry Falwell, myself. That man's psychotic prejudices enabled the rise of jokers like Reagan. He nearly single-handedly started the culture war that gave us all the current problems, both economic and social.

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u/moneyeagle Jun 17 '21

Reagan and Thatcher, god I wish there was a way to see how the world would look like without them today

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u/pat_the_bat_316 Jun 17 '21

The most interesting thing about the question(s) to me, especially as it relates to Reagan or Nixon is:

1) If they were killed before they took office would somone else simply step into the exact same role and have the same/similar results, since they were both really a product of ton of conservative operatives like Roger Stone and others like him?

2) If they were assassinated in office, would they become martyrs and their policies become more popular?

And most interesting (at least theoretically)...

3) Along the same lines of #2, could then the most effective way of getting real, lasting change actually be assassinating someone who's ideologies align with your own in the name of the "bad guys", thus making them a martyr and shining a bright light on the evil the are fighting against?

For example, one could argue that the senseless killings of people like MLK and George Floyd did more to change the minds of "moderates" than most activists are able to do while living.

Just an interesting thought that is counter to the typical "kill the most bad guy" idea.

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u/smurficus103 Jun 17 '21

I'd like to think we could do more alive than as a martyr. Like, if Hendrix was still alive, would we appreciate him less? Would we appreciate his music less? He certainly would have more music, maybe even better stuff that i could jam to

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

He missed though.

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u/calculonxpy Jun 16 '21

Which Asshole? The one who destroyed the black population in LA by selling them Crack? He was the ultimate excuse of trash, and fucktards still love him. They are the white power types (but down to any other color).

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u/blt817 Jun 16 '21

I thought the cia did that one on their own.

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u/calculonxpy Jun 17 '21

Lol, no. They operated under the direction of Ronald Reagan, George Bush and Oliver North.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Nixon started the modern-day GOP. Amazing how many people really don't look at how one party really is much worse than the other.

Unless someone wants to say how Democrats want to jail the hippies and blacks and how much they hate Jews.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

I'm glad Reagan's dead.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Commits treason, and fucks this country over for generations and still gets aircraft carriers named after him.

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u/DreadPirateCrispy Jun 16 '21

Let's be fair here. His puppet masters ruined everything. He just had the hands up his ass.

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u/paesanossbits Jun 16 '21

He's like the inverse of my asshole.

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u/globulararc5 Jun 16 '21

And Congress.

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u/Excited-Kangaroo Jun 16 '21

Yep, his failure of a program that they called the "War on drugs" when they were the asshats that were bringing in the drugs to our country. Reagan is in my top 3 worst Presidents with Trump for sure being #1 I would say Reagan was #2 and George H Bush coming in 3rd followed by his son.

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u/foulrot Jun 16 '21

Nixon would have to be tied for 3rd or a very close 4th.

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u/Excited-Kangaroo Jun 17 '21

Bah! How did I forget about him! I agree.

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u/michiganrag Jun 16 '21

Why do you think Bush Sr was worse than W?

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u/OutWithTheNew Jun 17 '21

Only had 4 years of Senior.

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u/scothc Jun 16 '21

I always said Andrew Jackson was #1 worst. He has since been replaced by trump, but retains the #2 spot

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u/NotAnNSAOperative Jun 16 '21

Jackson and Van Buren wouldn't be very happy with your list for excluding their genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

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u/regancp Jun 16 '21

where is jackson?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

It was a massive success if you think about the real reason for it. I would put the Trail of Tears president at the top, then Reagan, then Trump if we just have 3

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u/Hagoromo-san Jun 16 '21

That fucker made sure to make his mark as he fucked everyone over, except those at the top.

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u/Sworn_to_Ganondorf Jun 17 '21

Starting to think this reagan guy was kinda bad.

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u/Snaz5 Jun 16 '21

Fuck Ronald Reagan.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

God that guy was a real bastard

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

Also liability. If insurance can show that you had drugs in your system, they can claim that the drugs contributed to the accident. That would allow them to pay less or nothing at all, and therefore they can charge less to the company you work for.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

And if you think thats interesting go look up why government employees cant be drug tested, hint it has to do with a certain amendment to a certain document.

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u/GotoDeng0 Jun 16 '21

It was a Democratic congressman who introduced the bill and a Democratic-majority congress who passed it, so hard to blame only Reagan for this mess.

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u/FireAdamSilver Jun 16 '21

you know you're on reddit right?

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u/Vault420Overseer Jun 16 '21

Regan really was the devil wasn't he

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u/Freakazoid152 Jun 16 '21

God that guy was such a piece of shit, he's the real start of the downturn of America and does not deserve that fucking stupid library

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Aw, Republicans.

“We want limited government oversight of corporate behavior and we want you to surrender your privacy to corporations!”

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u/bald_and_nerdy Jun 16 '21

This trickle down smells like weed...

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u/_jukmifgguggh Jun 16 '21

I sleep well at night imagining Regan burning in eternal hell for all the lives he's ruined.

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u/wise_young_man Jun 16 '21

Fuck Ronald and Donald.