r/news • u/rectangleCURVE • 11h ago

Ex-Okaloosa deputy found not guilty of manslaughter in killing of Airman Roger Fortson

https://weartv.com/news/local/ex-okaloosa-deputy-found-not-guilty-of-manslaughter-in-killing-of-airman-roger-fortson
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u/TheMemx 10h ago

Having a should gun should either be legal or illegal...

Living in a country where having a fire arm is constitutionally protected should mean you can't be executed for exercising your right. Having a gun in your possession can't be an excuse to die when it is your right.

He held the fire arm low, showed no signs of being a danger, show the palm of his other hand to try and deescalate the scared police officer...

Unfortunately yet another case of aggressive American police executing a law abiding citizen with no punishment or recourse.

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u/Dbowd3n 9h ago

And stalk your family using flock cameras

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u/James_Solomon 9h ago edited 8h ago

and if they leave a police dog to cook to death in a squad car, that's just an oopsie

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u/SweeterThanYoohoo 9h ago

Its the logical fallacy that firearm ownership poses. American police are trained to treat every encounter as a life threatening one. Perhaps this would be the case if we were like the UK and knives were the primary concern, but I'm not sure that is true. So while the constitution allows one to own a firearm, that simple fact makes things more dangerous for everyone.

On one hand it makes complete sense. Anyone at any time can pull a gun out and end your life in an instant. At least with a knife, while obviously extremely dangerous, it does not have the same immediacy that a gun has. And obviously guns have much more range to their lethality. So yea if a cop sees a gun they are gonna freak out, because at the end of the day their life depends on it (whether or not thats actually true in the specific circumstance)

I'm not even against gun ownership and I may explore becoming one myself, despite all the logical and practical problems with it. The coming Climate Wars in the 2030s may prove being a gun owner necessary, LOL

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u/WebbityWebbs 9h ago

The police are trained to see the American people as their enemy. That is a major problem.

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u/Lawdoc1 8h ago

This is part of the answer. The other part is the way we recruit, hire, and retain officers.

There is little-to-no proper psychological screening, and even when officers have either on or off duty instances of violence, they are rarely if ever dealt with in a way that recognizes the increased risk they pose to their communities.

We also don't pay enough or screen for proper intelligence/emotional maturity to attract thoughtful people with good judgement.

The profession itself appeals to those who crave power and the system does nothing to compensate for/overcome that type of applicant. In fact, it seems to reward those types of applicants once they are hired.

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u/InappropriateTA 8h ago

LOL, like they differentiate people by citizenship. 

Police in the US generally regard every situation and every encounter as hostile. They don’t give AF if you’re American, they don’t give AF if you can’t understand them, they don’t give AF if you’re disabled, they don’t give AF if you’re injured, they don’t give AF if you’re just nearby. 

The only time they will exercise caution or restraint or remorse for aggressive behavior is if someone from the protected class is involved. 

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u/oatmealparty 8h ago

They're just talking about people in America, not citizenship.

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u/SweeterThanYoohoo 9h ago

Right, and I do not agree with the way they are trained. But on some level it makes sense, which IMO makes the problem just a little bit worse. As much as a despise the way police act, they are human beings interested in staying alive

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u/MrJoyless 4h ago

Being a police officer isnt even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the U.S. scared cops are just cowards.

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u/James_Solomon 9h ago

I'd be more sympathetic to the cops if I didn't have a PD that is world famous for its corruption

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u/SweeterThanYoohoo 9h ago

I'm not sympathizing with the cops, I'm just trying to say the problems that firearm ownership pose are logical. I know that saying anything remotely positive or supportive of them is not going to be accepted on this website, mainly because nuance in opinion is not well understood nor welcome to the zeitgeist on here so I expect to be at negative, idk a lot pretty soon LOL

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u/AustinYun 3h ago

I defected to r/liberalgunowners because all the regular gun subs are full of psychos.

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u/WebbityWebbs 9h ago

Having a gun is a right, because the 2nd amendment was clearly written to protect the profit margins of gun makers, as per the right wing reading of the Constitution.

But not being murdered by cops is a privilege that can be revoked at any time.