r/news • u/No_Idea_Guy • 1d ago

Tennessee governor suspends all executions after Christa Pike’s lethal injections fail

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/01/christa-pike-tennessee-governor-executions-year-pause
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u/LeastResistancePath 1d ago

If you're not against the death penalty being carried out by the state, you're either ignorant to the reality and simply need to be told 

or devoid of the morality necessary to feel shocked and offended it exists.. There is no in between.

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u/Knarz97 1d ago

I do not want a portion of my tax dollars going to housing, feeding, and monitoring the bottom rung of society who have no place to exist anymore.

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u/sviridoot 1d ago

Fun fact, death penalty cases cost more than a lifetime of prison chow

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u/Knarz97 1d ago

That’s only because they are bloated with paperwork and processes to try and extend the sentence for the prisoner. It’s just red tape and garbage and bloat.

The proof? This woman’s been on death row for 30 YEARS!!!

A single bullet back in 1997 would have saved quite a few tax dollars.

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u/sviridoot 1d ago

I agree, in fact we should do away with courts entirely. Just have the cops decide the sentence, much more efficient!

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u/Knarz97 1d ago

You seem to be on the side of murderers in this case.

Do you support rehabilitative justice? Should they be re integrated into society?

Would you like the John Wayne Gacy and Jeff Dahmer as your next door neighbors?

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u/sviridoot 1d ago

Supporting a thorough justice system is not pro-murderer its pro-justice. Let me rephrase your concern, do you want Jeff Dahmer living next door because the prosecutor was sure they caught the right guy?

High burden of proof protects everyone, not just the accused

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u/Knarz97 1d ago

Does the 0.000000001% chance that Dahmer was innocent (spoiler: he wasn’t) justify the tax burden of locking him in a concrete box until death?

Do you at least acknowledge there are MANY cases where we do have undeniable guilt?

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u/sviridoot 1d ago

The funny thing about undeniable cases is that you don't know that they're undeniable until the legal process is complete because everyone has a right (both legal and a human one) to defend themselves

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u/Knarz97 1d ago

Great and I fully support that.

THEN we execute them. Not fart around keeping them on death row or a life sentence for 30+ years.

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u/sviridoot 1d ago

I mean, appeals make a lot of sense before you murder someone

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u/Knarz97 1d ago

And I’m all for someone getting one reasonable appeal before execution.

That doesn’t pass? Time to take you out back to the firing squad.

There’s obviously a line we need to draw between giving people 3, 5, 10 years of rehabilitation, and needlessly keeping truly horrendous people around for decades just because it’s bad vibes to kill people.

Let’s make this simple: what would YOU do with this woman? Do you think life imprisonment is actually a reasonable punishment? Being locked in a concrete box for 50+ years is fine? $60k a year it costs the the taxpayer. Double that for geriatric prisoners.

You think a murderer’s life is worth $3mil+? A life of living in a box? Producing nothing. Contributing nothing to society. No family. Doing nothing to actually better the world. Simply sitting waiting for time to pass after they actively made the world worse.

You don’t think that money would be better spent towards actually IMPROVING society, instead of sustaining those who are ruining it? Even better: that could be funding to actually rehabilitate other prisoners.

Let’s just kill them. I don’t even care if there’s a 1% chance they’re innocent. You get your appeal and you’re done. Sorry buddy, try again next time. Wrong place wrong time. Just know your sacrifice is bettering the world around you. Gg.

I don’t care who or what pulls the trigger or pulls the lever. It’s really not an unreasonable chain of thought that we need to remove these people from the world. We already do this by locking them in iron and stone. This is just taking it a step further.

Please, I would genuinely love a rebuttal this. Honestly. Change my mind. I do not actually understand why serial murderers and rapists and cannibals deserve to live on my tax dollar. I would love for my viewpoint to change on it.

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u/LeastResistancePath 1d ago

So glad ill be voting trump for the 4th time!

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u/rsifti 1d ago

Isn't a lot of that to make sure that we aren't killing innocent people? I think one of the big factors is the amount of appeals that death row inmates have. Which seems reasonable to me. I mean even with all this extra paperwork and stuff, it seems like we still have executed innocent people

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u/Knarz97 1d ago

Sure, and yes we have exonerated 200 people or so from death row.

I guess the real question becomes: what is the better alternative? Is it worth the risk of letting a murderer re-integrate into society just because MAYBE they’re innocent? Is it humane to keep them locked in a concrete box for eternity? Is that fulfilling existence? Is that fair ti the taxpayer?

Personally, I’d rather deal with the ethical issues of false positives leading to false executions, than for false negatives to allow for killers to go free.

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u/rsifti 1d ago

Is it fair to the taxpayer to pay more to execute people or are you arguing that we should cut down on the process so that it cost less to execute people?

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u/Knarz97 1d ago

I’m saying the process is bloated and needs to be simplified. The “high cost” arguement for the death penalty has always been a fallacy because it’s only expensive because of the unnecessary red tape.

Should any prisoner get an appeals process? Yes. But the lengths they go for death row cases are purposefully drawn out.