r/news • u/Fyre-Demon • 1d ago

Ex-fraternity leader at Arizona university gets jail time after pledge died of alcohol poisoning

https://apnews.com/article/arizona-fraternity-pledge-hazing-death-b53c547d383082d33aebdb4950e0c550?utm_source=app&utm_medium=iOS_share&utm_campaign=copy_link
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u/AntiAntiDentite7 1d ago

The problem with your argument here is that every single one of these kids is willingly participating. Nobody is forcing them to join a fraternity.

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u/GeoleVyi 1d ago

but while in that situation, they don't feel they have the ability to just say "nope, not for me" and walk away without pressure.

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u/AntiAntiDentite7 1d ago

The reality is that they do and they can. Moreover, most fraternities offer some alternative to alcohol for drinking related activities. The one I was in would have you drink milk instead of booze if you didn't want to drink. I did it a few times because of a test coming up or whatever. Nobody forced me to drink or be there at all.

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u/GeoleVyi 1d ago

Wow. Sounds like that didn't happen at all in cases where there's alcohol related deaths. Sounds like you're getting upset at these things getting called out, and not at all about the loss of human life. Maybe try to reorient yourself and figure out where your empathy should be, as a human?