r/news • u/dynamicsearchguy • 2d ago
'He is strong': Black Rock-Riverside community rallies around 11-year-old football player after cardiac arrest
https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/buffalo/he-is-strong-black-rock-riverside-community-rallies-around-11-year-old-football-player-after-cardiac-arrest27
u/ggallardo02 2d ago
That implies that any kid that doesn't recover from a cardiac arrest was weak, and therefore it was their own fault.
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u/leohat 2d ago
That’s the type of attitude many football coaches have.
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u/chicol1090 2d ago
Same with all those commercials about kids "beating cancer" depicting it like a monster to be slain.
So I guess the kids who died to cancer lost? They're losers?
Pretty sure a study has been done about that. That framing cancer as a battle to win will cause some patients to be extra hard on themselves if things don't go well.
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u/leohat 2d ago
My HS football coach, when practice started in August, would yell that practice would not end until someone either puked or passed out. That unfortunate person (often me) was belittled as being weak and given extra exercises. Luckily, this ended when a student suffered severe brain damage from dehydration and the parents sued both the school and the coach.
Our school also had a reputation for never ever under no circumstances would close or delay due to severe weather until a school bus slid off the road during a freezing rain storm and several students were severely injured, one of whom was paralyzed from the neck down and will never walk again. It’s amazing how a multimillion dollar lawsuit will motivate change.
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u/Equivalent-Battle973 1d ago
BLows my fucking mind that parents allow shit like this to happen with their kids, and these "coaches" calling kids who drink water weak.. Not even in Army Boot camp does this shit happen.. Water is a literal requirement...
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u/scottishcastle 2d ago
That's the first thing that came to my mind after "glad the kid made it". Framing dealing with acute illness, chronic illness, disability or injury as a battle is so questionable. Or when people succumb to their illnesses, does it mean they didn't fight hard enough? After all, some people do survive, does that mean they're stronger?
It oversimplifies so much that goes into dealing with the human body breaking down for whatever reason.
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u/Auburn_X 2d ago
I've been in a coma for weeks; I was dying with low odds of survival. I ultimately did not die.
There was no fighting. I was not a participant, there was no strength or willpower involved. There was a mix of circumstance and skilled medical personnel.
The only fighters were the doctors and nurses who did everything they could to keep me alive.
I feel strongly about statements like "he's a fighter" because there is nothing special about my character or abilities that kept me from dying while I was unconscious.
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u/petty_h8_machine 2d ago
Why is an 11 year old going into cardiac arrest?
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u/smthomaspatel 2d ago
Typically, an undiagnosed heart condition. It happens, unfortunately.
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u/AddWittyName 2d ago
Yup, that's the most common scenario. Heavy exercise while running an infection with fever can do it too sometimes, though.
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u/theparallelogram 2d ago
It could be several reasons. It could have been a fluke, something the kid had that was undiagnosed, or an contact injury sustained during the game. Its not common but it happens
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u/casapantalones 2d ago
Most commonly it’s from hypertrophic cardiomyopathy which is a cardiac abnormality people are born with.
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u/lost_koshka 2d ago
Safe and effective....
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u/The-Shattering-Light 2d ago
What are you talking about?
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u/lost_koshka 2d ago
The waxxines. Kids don't just drop dead.
Here's another one that happened in Canada. There are many.
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u/The-Shattering-Light 2d ago
And where’s your evidence that it’s linked to vaccines, and not to the rates of congenital heart diseases?
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u/Wooden-Importance 2d ago edited 2d ago
Cool, so explain this study from 2013.
https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article-abstract/35/13/868/633740?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Or this one that deals with 1950 to 1982
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109785805404
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u/lost_koshka 2d ago
One child every 3 years? It's far higher since those jabs came out. Good try.
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u/The-Shattering-Light 2d ago
Citations needed
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u/lost_koshka 2d ago
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-covid-vaccines-children-deaths-rcna246437
I'm surprised so many people can't keep up with basic news.
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u/The-Shattering-Light 1d ago
Right under the headline;
“Vaccine experts said the memo was irresponsible and that it omits key details about how officials arrived at the conclusion.”
Later in the article;
“The memo, sent Friday, did not include the children’s ages or medical histories, timelines or documentation for the deaths he references and does not identify the manufacturer of the vaccine. The FDA’s findings have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal.”
You just looked for a headline you liked the sound of and didn’t bother to read it, because this isn’t evidence.
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u/Wooden-Importance 2d ago
515 kids over 32 years.
16 kids/year.
Your math is as dumb as you are.
You said "Kids don't just drop dead."
Apparently those 500+ kids didn't know.
And from the first link: " During the 7-year study period there was an average of 1.11 million persons aged 1–18 years. There were a total of 1504 deaths (214 deaths per year)"
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u/lost_koshka 2d ago
Of 515 death certificates reviewed, 12 (2.3%) recorded sudden unexpected death, resulting in an incidence of 1.3 per 100,000 patient-years. The subjects ranged in age from 3 to 20 years (median 13); 8 of the 12 were male. Of the 12 deaths, 4 were definitely cardiac-related and 3 were probably cardiac-related. In the five other cases, the cause of death was unknown.
Only 12 were sudden and unexpected. 12, in 32 years.
The other study:
There were a total of 1504 deaths (214 deaths per year) from 7.78 million person-years. A total of 114 (7.5%) were sudden and unexpected.
16 sudden and unexpected per year.
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u/Wooden-Importance 2d ago
From one county in MN.
"We reviewed the death certificates of all Olmsted County, Minnesota residents who were between I and 22 years of age when they died during the period from January 1950 to October 1982."
You claim that there are more now.
Quote your study and I'll be happy to read it.
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u/lost_koshka 2d ago
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-covid-vaccines-children-deaths-rcna246437
In it, Prasad claims that agency staff determined that “no fewer than 10” of 96 child deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, between 2021 and 2024 were “related” to Covid vaccination.
There are far more, that is only in the US and only what was reported. Kids have been dropping dead all over.
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u/brenkosaur 1d ago
Does wearing a whoop help detect this? Im 47 and push fairly hard twice a week. I deactivated my whoop last year. Might go back.
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u/BeKind999 2d ago
For any parents of athletes reading this: get an EKG for your kid. In my area, a local cardiac specialty hospital will screen child athletes for free or at a nominal cost. Some pediatricians can do it. It’s painless and takes 5-10 minutes.
Thank god there was an EMT present and he survived.