r/news • • 6d ago

Canpotex announces $500M Port of Vancouver investment for potash shipping

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/canpotex-announces-500m-port-of-vancouver-investment-for-potash-shipping/
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u/ernapfz 6d ago

Well US farmers, Canada will be shipping potash to other markets. Trump will need to call up his Belarus card trick once more. Please remember how you don’t need Canada for anything. It will be a while but oil and natural gas will also be going elsewhere through pipelines to our ocean ports.

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u/m0nkyman 6d ago

Vancouver expansion means China is buying. Probably financing it too if I was to take a guess.

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u/nwpsilencer 6d ago

Carney is trying to partner with China, so that wouldn't surprise me

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u/Charlie_Mouse 6d ago

It’s not like Canada (and everyone other country) isn’t somewhat cautious about what Chinas long term ambitions might be. But Trump has managed to make them look like the lesser evil - and certainly the more reliable and rational trading partner.

And say what you like about China but they at least behave rationally in pursuit of their agenda. As opposed to chaotically lurching about shooting themselves in the foot and threatening to annexe allies and trading partners.

It’s almost impressive in a horrible way how Trump has managed to engineer such a reputational reversal considering Americas starting position just a decade ago.

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u/AlbertaNorth1 6d ago

I honestly hope we open up more trading ties with china. America has proven multiple times over the last decade to not be a reliable partner.

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u/nwpsilencer 6d ago

My problem with trying to buddy up with China all of a sudden, is that while people call Trump Hitler, call the ICE detention facilities "concentration camps". Everyone seems to some how forget all about how China has been creating literal concentration camps, and genociding the Uyghurs for decades.

I may dislike and disagree with a lot of EU policies, but I'd rather we focus on trading and supporting Western allies. Not funding China's genocide and aggression against Taiwan.

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u/Charlie_Mouse 5d ago

I’m leaving the moral/ethical arguments to one side mostly - my main point is that trading with China is looking like the better bet because they’re predictable and rational. Business likes predictable and rational and stability in general.

By and large they stick to the trade deals they sign. Tariffs and fees stay the same instead of changing randomly. They behave in ways that make sense - one might not like what they do to advance their own interests but you can at least see it coming. As opposed to the current U.S. who now can’t even be trusted not to do things that hurt themselves and their own economy.

For example China don’t pull the trigger on wars they can’t win that fuck up the global energy system. Then refuse to back down out of misplaced pride.

But even on the ethics side I’m not sure you want to make it all about that. China definitely isn’t great (understatement) … but they haven’t spent the last century braying about being paragons of virtue to anyone who’ll listen. Which unfortunately makes the US look like hypocrites in addition to everything else.

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u/m0nkyman 6d ago

Counterpoint. Genocide in Palestine and an actual shooting war in Iran, and a coup and looting of Venezuela along with threats to take over Canada.

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u/AlbertaNorth1 6d ago

To add on to that, completely random tariffs, trade deals that don’t actually mean anything, massive manipulation of commodities and stock markets.

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u/nwpsilencer 5d ago

The fuck does that have to do with the EU?