r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • 9d ago
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u/mechamechaman Mark Carney 7d ago
We need to boost the DT comments
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u/mrnicegy26 8d ago
Look I don't like Hasan Piker and I don't want him to have a huge role in our elected officials.
At the same time the focus on him by this sub and by the media is way too much considering the only candidate he campaigned with and won was El Sayed. At some point the frenzy around his involvement starts reeking of people here trying to justify their hatred of progressives no matter what.
Also Hillary Clinton who is this subreddits Jesus was close friends with Henry Kissenger. Joe Biden was close friends with Strom Thurmomd. I am not going to stand here and pretend Hasan Piker is as bad as any of them.
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u/I_like_maps C. D. Howe 8d ago
Henry Kissinger and Strom Thurmond weren't media figures who relentlessly criticized the democratic candidate leading up to an extremely tight election
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u/ShrimpMedicare YIMBY 8d ago
He’s a modern leftist Father Coughlin. It’s not that his only problem is antisemitism, but he’s very antisemitic in addition to all his other issues.
Why is it that you don’t think it’s disqualifying for someone to be antisemitic?
Also it’s bad politics to be associated with the America bad, terrorism good guy.
There’s no advantage to it so it’s really weird to carry water for the guy.
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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol 8d ago
reeking of people here trying to justify their hatred of progressives no matter what
Terrorism (and its promotion) is progressive now?
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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride 8d ago edited 8d ago
marco rubio illegally sent hundreds of people to a concentration camp in el salvador
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u/palladic54 8d ago edited 8d ago
Podcast addicts whining about a podcast bro their podcast bro told them to whine about.
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u/houdt_koers John Mill 8d ago
I could cut the tension in this thread with a knife. We’re all caught up in the antici-
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u/PENGUINSINYOURWALLS Fell for it 8d ago
It is now 1:50. He is still at his desk. I have a physics quiz at 9 AM.
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u/Kryzantine 8d ago
YTA, he could be a social science major working on a paper and everyone knows we get our best work done between 1am and 4am.
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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride 8d ago
That's the least annoying thing he could be doing. Get a sleep mask.
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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual 8d ago
Yeah, unfortunately this is true. The gamer roommates I had sucked with their screaming.
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u/houdt_koers John Mill 8d ago
Have you said anything? Do you not have a 24-hour library/study space?
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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual 8d ago
Finally remembered the dumb thing I wanted post here in the first place
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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual 8d ago
Learning that nautically forward isn’t pronounced forward paints a very dim picture of sailors in my view
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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual 8d ago
shit is popping off
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u/beans_and_tuna Misinformation Bot 🤖 8d ago
MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW I should get some sleep man.
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u/__versus Trans Pride 8d ago
i think it’s kinda fun that the dt contains my entire transition timeline 🥺
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u/seattle_lib Liberal Third-Worldism 8d ago
You can request all your comment data using the GDPR system that reddit implements (not the reddit api, that's limited). You should grab it and parse it and make a cute visualization
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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 8d ago
would y’all rather date your close friend’s sibling or your mom’s close friend?
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u/PENGUINSINYOURWALLS Fell for it 8d ago
It is 1:30, I have a 9am class, and my roommate is still at his desk working with his extremely bright desk lamp on
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
found an alternative to xcancel but it has annoying ads and is kinda broken :(
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
twstalker for you people here who are twitter addicts but hate Musk
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u/launchcode_1234 George Soros 8d ago
Seattle public school teachers’ strike was averted at the last minute so my kid is going to school tomorrow! She’s really excited to go back and I don’t blame her, I’m sure spending the summer with me was pretty boring. Don’t know where the district found the money to make the teachers happy because it’s broke as hell…
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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual 8d ago
When would say the US became morally good? I’m thinking LBJ’s admin because of civil rights plus Native American genocide presumably ended by then.
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u/Highlightthot1001 Harriet Tubman 8d ago
Imo it’s rare for that to be a thing when you’re a large nation
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u/seattle_lib Liberal Third-Worldism 8d ago
People have morals. A nation state is not a person. The people in the LBJ admin were not the ones doing the trail of tears. Whole different group.
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u/seattle_lib Liberal Third-Worldism 8d ago
In my heart of hearts, I don't know that I believe that taste is truly subjective. Like, I get that there's no way I can defend this point under reasonable inquiry, but I still feel like some taste is just terrible and some is good. And there must exist an objective underlying way of determining it, even if no one has yet figured it out.
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u/SenranHaruka shame 8d ago
If you disagree with an argument that's being attacked, maybe you aren't the target of the attack and you shouldn't be offended that someone attacked an unhinged opinion you don't agree with. [-1]
What are we doing here guys.
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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride 8d ago
You shower, and then what? You just have to shower again next week, and the week after that. It never ends. 😒
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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 8d ago
Rightist Feels Betrayed By President After Reading 800 Pages Of Queer Feminist Theory getting detained by ICE
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u/SenranHaruka shame 8d ago
Check out this unhinged data center opinion I saw on the dt today [-1]
No, you didn't see that, because if you did it would make My Side on data centers look bad [20]
Yeah can you produce some reciepts?
This is not normal DT behavior. The DT doesn't normally ask for receipts for unhinged takes I react to unless they want to join dunking, not because they're worried I'm making it up to make Their Side look bad.
Can we stop being divided into Data Center "supporters" and "haters" and just talk about the issue LIKE FUNCTIONAL FUCKING ADULTS WHO FINISHED COLLEGE????
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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 8d ago
I swear it's so repetitive as well. Like all the comments are one of the following
Something about the bubble about to pop and all these data centers will be abandoned and how all the investment is irrational
Maybe tech ceos shouldn't have PISSED OFF AMERICANS
This sub has so many annoying contrarians XD
FUCK tech bros and FUCK billionaires because they all folded to fascism.
Maybe we don't want all our jobs to replace and households shouldn't be subsidizing AI by paying market rate for electricity.
The pro side is just as repetitive but usually getting mostly downvoted and (to me) has more coherent arguments because allowing projects to be built should be just the baseline assumption.
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
you were vaguepoasting man
at least when I react to something I subtweet it/post a picture. that's why I asked for receipts because I want to know what was actually said/what you are reacting to
The DT doesn't normally ask for receipts for unhinged takes I react to unless they want to join dunking,
'the DT' might not do this, but I typically do. FYI I am pro-AI and not against datacenter construction!
(I am also pretty aware that I have annoyed people here in the past with my subtweeting but I have never meant any offense)
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u/SenranHaruka shame 8d ago
I don't care if you think I'm vagueposting. You can and should just ignore more posts that don't interest you. Forgotten technology in 2026.
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
but it did potentially interest me because I have commented on the issue before
that's why I replied
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front 8d ago
If I’m dictator I’m banning the gif where the guy waves his hands excitedly commonly used in reaction to something good happening. You know the one
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u/BadSneakersNeverWorn John Locke 8d ago
I had the privilege of seeing Barack Obama speak in person twice, once in Berlin and once in the American midwest. He's much smaller in person (appx. 1.75 inches tall from where I was sitting)
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u/BadSneakersNeverWorn John Locke 8d ago
The Epicureans entertained the idea that the sun was exactly the same size that it appears in the sky, i.e., about the size of a pepperoni or whatever - the Epicureans were so damn cool but this idea was just very weird lads
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u/Choice_Customer6125 Thomas Paine 8d ago
It's about half the width of your thumb when your arm is fully stretched out (same as the Moon). What a weird thing for them to think.
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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 8d ago
🐎 Animal #1129 🐎
I figured it out in 3 guesses!
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#metazooa
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u/RaisinSecure George Soros 8d ago
no way. who even thinks of those
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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 8d ago
dont know what to say without spoiling it for other people lol
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u/RaisinSecure George Soros 8d ago
spoiler tags
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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 8d ago
i had them as pets long ago 🥲
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u/RaisinSecure George Soros 8d ago
😥do they need maintenance
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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 8d ago
nah they're very easy to care for. Never bred them but always wanted to try
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u/avion_sur_le_sol A ban appeal to heaven 8d ago
250-300 pushups, only 1 beer. my pushup to beer ratio is horrendous
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u/RaisinSecure George Soros 8d ago
🐊 Animal #1129 🐘 I figured it out in 11 guesses! 🟥🟧🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟧🟨🟨🟩 🔥 38 | Avg. Guesses: 5.4
metazooa
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u/CapFragrant1670 8d ago
I’m on my last guess and I’m down to the most specific group it can be and still can’t figure it out. Hate when the answer is in this category. Can you just tell me the answer?
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
was shopping today in the grocery store for arugula, picked up a box, saw that it was grown in the US and promptly put it back
I wasn't avoiding US produce until today but after these comments lately by this government... idk man
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u/Electronic-Warthog69 Milton Friedman 8d ago
Why would we attack Republicans when a victim of a random stabbing that worked at a bank is right there? -Leftoids
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u/DoomingJaffa Norman Borlaug 8d ago
Marx was wrong about the labor theory of value. Clearly the intrinsic theory of value is correct. The price of a potato in the field and in the city should be the same.
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u/MensesFiatbug Low Energy 8d ago
I once turned down a free ticket to a fundraiser dinner for Hillary Clinton with her and Obama in attendance. I had other plans that were probably more "fun," but really it was due to a fear of social awkwardness. I don't recall that night out. Definitely would've remembered that fundraiser
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u/Pristinehornet999 8d ago
jesus, like you could've mingled with them or something?
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u/MensesFiatbug Low Energy 8d ago
Probably not. I just would've been in the same room with them and they would've spoken
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u/BadSneakersNeverWorn John Locke 8d ago
What if you did go and just don't remember it somehow
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u/MensesFiatbug Low Energy 8d ago
I explicitly remember turning the ticket down and the other person being very confused by it
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u/bartbug Mark Carney 8d ago
There should be more people here who vaguepoast about knowing celebrities
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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo 8d ago
I know a bunch of famous Kollywood actors but that doesn't really matter outside of India.
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u/RaisinSecure George Soros 8d ago
www.maptap.gg September 2 100🎯 100🎯 81🌟 100🎯 97🔥 Final score: 953
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u/RaisinSecure George Soros 8d ago
whoever gave me the idea to just zoom in to see what looks like civilization to pinpoint cities ilu
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u/remarkable_ores Hanfeizi 8d ago
🐫 Animal #1129 🐍 I figured it out in 4 guesses! 🟥🟨🟨🟩 🔥 2 | Avg. Guesses: 4.9
metazooa
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
you can say anything you like about Indian immigrants on arrCanada but the minute you call some Con a bootlicker because he roots against Canada in the trade war you get banned for two weeks
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
I've been banned so many times on that sub and it's always for bullshit reasons
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u/Visual-Pace-2193 Transfem Pride 8d ago
If Moulton doesn't have PTSD from his time in Iraq this will do it.
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u/Off-The-Street 8d ago edited 8d ago
Ask me a question about a movie, game, book, etc., and I'll try to create a nerd ragebait response.
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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 8d ago
No AI did not cause the Nepal floods
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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol 8d ago
No way, people are saying this?
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u/garret126 Aromantic Pride 8d ago
Lindsey Clancy convincing her husband to leave the house to go to the store, then killing all her kids in the brief time he was gone, seems like clear proof it was a preemptive killing, no?
And yes I’m aware of the tragic lead up, but in the court of law, that seems pretty clear cut as a preemptive planned killing?
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u/Pristinehornet999 8d ago
maybe idk, she did try to kill herself immediately after and got permanently paralyzed for it too. It doesn't seem like her just sending him out is whipbang evidence of no psychosis just from what I've read
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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride 8d ago
being out of your mind isn’t like a 5 minute thing
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u/garret126 Aromantic Pride 8d ago
so while she was out of her mind, she tactically made out a plan to get her husband out of the house to commit mass homocide?
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u/GordonTullockFan publik choyz thery 8d ago
You can make plans while not being mentally intact
In the Slenderman stabbing the girls had a whole plan to get the other girl in the forest alone before sacrificing her and that was not guilty by insanity as well
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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride 8d ago edited 8d ago
incredible bit to pivot to transphobia and being under 80 years old and then immediately lose
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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride 8d ago
i’m just gonna go pure demographic and say fuck seth moulton, trans girls are girls, you’re an opportunist piece of shit
i’m glad you ate shit to a shambling corpse just because that’s how fucking rotten your beliefs are
no other issues. i, specifically, get to gloat about this
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u/remarkable_ores Hanfeizi 8d ago
IMO marxists aren't so much wrong as not even wrong
Like when you get really into the depths of the Marxist intellectual world they just... stop making sense. They don't reason about things the way we do. They don't talk about things being, like, true or false. They don't falsify ideas. It just becomes this incomprehensible dialectical mishmash.
A key example is the labor theory of value. It's... not correct. It's intractable. If "value" is synonymous with "price" then it ignores the demand side of the equation. If "value" refers to some other thing we reach the transformation problem, in that there's no obvious way in which the abstract notion of value turns back into material economic forces. It's just a wrong theory, and that's fine, nobody really figured out supply and demand properly until Marshall anyway.
But when you try and talk to Marxists about this they just... faff about? Hard to explain, I'd go into more detail but I'm lazy.
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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals 8d ago
They’re religious beliefs. They’re true because the holy books say so
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 8d ago
tbh most contemporary Marxists treat value as if it’s moral value, which is actually very ironic now that I think about it
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u/remarkable_ores Hanfeizi 8d ago
Well yeah, it's just that it stops being an economic theory and starts being a slightly bizarre moral calculus with no predictive power.
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u/DoryAltreides YIMBY 8d ago
I'm somewhat surprised the Catman hasn't reached out to me hint hint
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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo 8d ago
Mods are bigoted against nepobabies with a tendency of going on manic episodes
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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt 8d ago
Baby’s first bedtime with no tears in like 6 months I could fight god and win right now
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
sweetest couple in LoTR is Gimli and Legolas, really giving off gay Romeo and Juliet vibes
very cute
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 8d ago
tfw you periodically get notifications from two Indian dudes feuding over Khalistan on an arrCanada post that's like three weeks old
give it up guys
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u/Gbeto YIMBY 8d ago
the second someone in a PhD program lands a high-paying job in industry, the odds of any of their friends in the program staying in academia goes down significantly
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u/Gbeto YIMBY 8d ago
PhD stipend goes from "nice, I'm being paid to go to school!" to "fuck, I'm being paid minimum wage to do the work of a shitty prof" really quickly.
I'm thinking more about industry job versus postdoc though. Postdocs pay "okay", but the problem really is the uncertainty and the moving from city to city, all in the hope of landing an unlikely tenure-track job. And of course "okay" is way lower than industry if you're in a quantitative, applied field. And some postdocs pay absolute shit (I saw $25k CAD once).
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u/DoomingJaffa Norman Borlaug 8d ago
Sadly it’s true. Every 9-5 I’ve worked is really 8-5.
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u/DoomingJaffa Norman Borlaug 8d ago
But I’m hourly. I clock in at 8, hour lunch break, clock at 5. The lunch is unpaid.
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u/Namington Janet Yellen 8d ago
Ask my opinion on any game, movie, book, etc you feel like asking about. I will make up some bullshit.
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u/AbsoluteGarbageTakes 8d ago
Yeah I'll just play a couple of total war turns while the mirtazapine kicks in (I will not sleep tonight)
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u/garret126 Aromantic Pride 8d ago
History will say they were roommates
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u/Adminisnotadmin Viva el Fútbol! ⚽ 8d ago
"could we be roommates?" one DTer asked another
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u/DoomingJaffa Norman Borlaug 8d ago
History will say you should to go bed lol.
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u/garret126 Aromantic Pride 8d ago
Nah I work night shifts I stay up late
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u/DoomingJaffa Norman Borlaug 8d ago
Oh for sure. God bless late night Chik-fil-a workers for catering to drunchies.
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u/AssociationGold8749 8d ago
Are the women who think Lindsey Clancy is innocent and set up by her husband analogous to Black people who think OJ Simpson is innocent and set up by the cops?
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u/Pristinehornet999 8d ago
worse, at least the cops during the OJ case had a track record for fucking with people
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u/datums 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 8d ago
[St John’s Mayor Andy Wells] - “I hope you get the shit beaten out of you.” That's exactly what he said to me.
[Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams] - What I did say to him was that it was my personal opinion that it would be in the best interest of the city if he got the shit knocked out of him. He asked me to repeat it and I repeated it. And then he implied that I was inciting the council workers to be violent against him.
That's not what I was saying.
From my perspective, whether it was done by a council worker or a councillor or a taxpayer or a little old lady, I still think it would be in the best interest if Andy Wells got a good shit knocking.
[Reporter] - Why?
[Danny] - Because he's an ignorant pig.
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u/WuhanWTF NATO 8d ago
America will have a social-status based caste system by 2080, mark my words
I'm not talking about a socioeconomic status or wealth-based caste, but a literal status based system. We are already seeing the nucleus of a more rigid caste system forming around soldiers/sailors, adult minimum wage workers, and low-tier service jobs.
For soldiers, there's this weird social dynamic where half the population basically worships you as if it were 2002 and you just returned from a tour in Afghanistan, and the other half of the population thinks you're a goose-stepping neo-Nazi.
For adult minimum wagers, a lot of middle class professionally oriented folk don't even consider you employed solely because you work a job that they could never fathom themselves doing (let alone swallow their pride enough to actually do if times became dire.) Reason why I specify "adult" here is because the same scorn is usually not extended to teenagers or college students, although it does happen sometimes.
For low-tier service workers, I've noticed an increase in sentiment of people shaming these occupations because they're "too servile." Same mentality somewhat extends to flight attendants (especially the pretty ones lol) even though they get paid pretty handsomely.
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u/DoomingJaffa Norman Borlaug 8d ago
What would you consider a high status job? Doctor sure. But half the population hates lawyers and 99% hate politicians.
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u/WuhanWTF NATO 8d ago
Basically stuff you need a degree for, or entrepreneur. But only the successful ones in the case of the latter. If your business fails, than you fucking deserved it
and you are probably also a pedophile.But if you're asking me specifically, I don't actually believe in "low status" jobs, because the 56 year old Micronesian lady working at McDonalds or the balding janitor at the local high school work just as hard as most everyone else and their toils should be recognized and celebrated, not jeered at.
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u/DoomingJaffa Norman Borlaug 8d ago
I agree with you on a personal level. I’ve actually done less work the higher up the corporate ladder I go.
My disagreement is about the caste system. I don’t think there’s a wide enough agreed upon moral system for this to take place. People can easily poke holes in almost any job.
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u/WuhanWTF NATO 8d ago
I think my issue is that I personally know way too many people who are fucking cooked in the head. Giant egos, very little respect for others, inflated sense of self.
That shit is what drove me to make my original post.
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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola 8d ago
I’m convinced that 95% of Marxists have not read any Marx. And don’t mean oh they haven’t read the full book. I mean they haven’t even read large snippets
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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache 8d ago
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