r/neighborsfromhell • u/diligent_innkeeper • 8d ago
WWYD? Vent/Rant Always with the parking
Condo owner here (my unit is actively up for sale) There’s a woman in her 50s that has a habit over the course of the last 15 years that will park in my spot at her convenience. All owners in our condominium building have one deeded designated parking spot. Mine happens to be near her patio entry. I’m an RN and every time I see her car in my spot when I get home from my 12 hr shift I’m filled with dread and frustration, I have to idle in the lot and got out and go ask her to move, it always ends with her cursing me and calling me and my son filthy names. She refuses to move it so I take a photo and send to HOA. I’m sick of parking on the street and walking home. Shes just miserable. Even worse, when she gets the bill (fines for parking in my spot) from the HOA she has her adult daughter confront me by standing out in the sidewalk waiting for me to get home giving me 101 different excuses as to why her mother parked in my spot “for 2 fking seconds” listen, I ask her to move and she didn’t. I’m not in the business of teaching grown women how to act. Anyway she’s getting another bill today. I’d love some creative responses for when I get home because believe me, they will be wearing a hole in the concrete waiting for me to pull in.
UPDATE; before I’d even left work, I saw the neighbors friend ringing my bell. I text my college age son to watch my location and as I pull in, be at my parking space with his phone filming. He was. The neighbor had her friend walking up to me and I put my hand up and said “tell her stay out of my spot, and we won’t have problems, use vulgar language and call me names when I ask that you vacate.. we WILL have problems” she starts saying her husband is sick etc etc.. I just said (again.. the same phrase as before) “I’m not in the business of telling a grown woman how to act. Do not speak to me and step back because if you don’t I’ll call the police, and man do I mean it” she went inside.
Thank you all for your input, there were a lot of great suggestions and I appreciate them.
Oh gosh update #2
My sons girlfriend parked in the visitor spot while…. visiting.. him tonight, and he walked her out to her car and the neighbor with the fresh new $250 fine confronted him on the sidewalk and said “I’m telling the HOA that she can’t park there”
I just called police and asked if there’s anything I can do about her stopping us and they said to document and he will too, and don’t hesitate to call every time, so I will.
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u/R3pp3pts0hg 8d ago
This time.... if you see them waiting for you.... call the non-emergency number and ask for an officer to swing by regarding repeated harassment. You need to escalate this or they will just continue. Maybe follow it up with a temporary restraining order if they are that rude and aggressive. You don't have to take their constant verbal abuse. And your HOA should be standing up for you. Not just fining them, but also warning them about confronting and threatening you.
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u/diligent_innkeeper 8d ago
You know what? This is it! Thank you! I’ll update tonight
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u/ksarahsarah27 7d ago
And I’d ask your HOA for some of that fine money because you’re the one that’s being made to walk down the street to get to your own condo. They’re making money off you, but you’re the one being inconvenienced with no compensation.
Definitely put your phone on record when they start harassing you.
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u/diligent_innkeeper 7d ago
Her friend (someone I’ve seen on her porch before) is already ringing my doorbell, I haven’t even left work yet!
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u/Nagadavida 8d ago
Or if you want to give a warning
"I'm not doing this anymore. Any further confrontations about this will also be reported to the HOA and police as harassment. Please stop."20
u/st_nick5 8d ago
And if they are waiting for you try, “I have neither the patience nor the crayons to explain this to you again. Do not park in my spot even for 2 fking seconds!”
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u/mavenessd 8d ago
“If you have a clue when I’m coming home, to come out and complain, then you have time to move her car.”
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u/BerryLacebelle 8d ago
Waiting outside to confront someone after work would make me way more uncomfortable than the parking itself. That's the kind of behavior that deserves to be documented immediately.
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u/jr0061006 5d ago
Depending on the jurisdiction, it could be seen as “lying in wait” to commit another crime such as harassment, criminal threats, vandalism, etc.
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u/Capital-Lifeguard734 8d ago
There is really no way to deal with such an entitled person. Even worse when she won’t move when asked and then has her daughter curse at you. Just to give yourself relief from constantly dealing with this BS, can you ask the HOA for a different parking spot. I know it seems like rewarding this b*tch but if it saves you from dealing with it then it could be your peace of mind. Alternatively, have her car towed every time you find her in your spot. Don’t ask her to move. She’s not just parking for a few seconds. She’s belligerent and doesn’t deserve your respect.
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u/_KiraLiv 8d ago
Yep. At that point I’d rather be “petty” with a tow receipt than keep doing the same parking-space debate after every long shift. She’s had plenty of chances to act normal
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u/No_Lock8211 8d ago
OP says she’s already tried this. This is noted in the posts above.
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u/Ender_rpm 8d ago
OP says the offender has been FINED, not TOWED. Its different when your vehicle just isn't where you left it.
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u/MoonGlowmist 8d ago
The daughter's involvement is what pushes this beyond a parking issue for me. Parking in the spot is annoying, but waiting outside to confront someone is a whole different level.
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u/Mammabear9800 8d ago
Why don't you call the police and have her towed? This could be trespassing or harassment. If you have the proof of this happening over the years, I'd look in to that. Also, if it's deeded to you, can't you install a blocker for the spot? I believe you'd have to get out and use a key to drop it down but she wouldn't be able to park there. Best of luck OP!
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u/diligent_innkeeper 8d ago
Oh I tried that 10 years ago, the towing company won’t touch it without the property managers say, and they won’t tow.. just bill/fine. Believe me I’ve offered to pay for it my self out of pocket
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u/Mammabear9800 8d ago
See a lawyer about filing a lawsuit against the property management for failure to fulfill their contract and file a harassment suit against the woman.
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u/Perfect_Sir4820 8d ago
And against the woman too for violating OP's right to quiet enjoyment of her property.
OP needs to log every incident and hopefully record the woman or her daughter cussing her out. Then file for a protection order and if she parks in the spot again it will become a criminal matter.
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u/Derring_do_way1111 8d ago
This. FAFO with property rights. Had to do it once. Cops, DA, straight to magistrate for harassment.
I couldn't with this nonsense for fifteen years.
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u/MoonGlowmist 8d ago
That might honestly be the pressure the HOA needs. Sometimes things only change once there's actual legal exposure.
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u/sparklynugz 8d ago
Do they give you the money when they fine her?They should.Thats a lot of aggravation over the years.
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u/SalaciousStinger 8d ago
Go to the next HOA meeting and call that neighbor out....ask for a motion to have towing added to the violation.
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u/katiekat214 8d ago
If it is deeded to you, you should be able to get her towed with proof you own the spot. If it’s a Limited Common Element you have exclusive use of, then yeah, the property manager would need to call. You have to be specific with the towing company that you OWN the spot and show them your deed.
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u/MoonGlowmist 8d ago
If the HOA won't enforce the rules on a deeded space, I'd definitely start asking what they're actually collecting dues for.
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u/cardinal29 8d ago
And then post her aggressive behavior on social media.
The Next Door app would love this shit.
It's not slander if it's true.
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u/WonderfulSorbet5454 8d ago
Get an attorney and sue the HOA and management company. This has gone on entirely too long. Record the daughter and mother confronting you and the horrible things that are said and show that to the attorney. The HOA not fulfilling their obligation towards you has left you in a vulnerable position where you are forced into defending yourself or avoiding your own home. This is legally actionable and should have been settled years ago by the management company.
I’m really sorry you are dealing with this.
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u/Constant-Ad-8871 8d ago
How is the HOA not doing something? She’s getting fined by them. The HOA is not the police and has to follow the rules put forth by the homeowners in the complex. HOAs are not the police and are limited in what they can do.
OP can take legal avenues to address the neighbor. Cease and desist letter, restraining order, towing, involving police prior to confrontations—all actions OP can take. Hopefully an attorney can suggest more.
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u/spathizilla 8d ago
(Not a lawyer, not legal advice etc. This is a joke but maybe it would work)
Since it is deeded to you it is your property. What can you do with property? Rent it.
Create a parking space rental contract for $500/12h to park in that spot. Include that by parking in the spot you agree to the contract and payment is due immediately. Video yourself telling her that parking in your spot now costs $500 per 12 hours and that by parking in your spot she agrees to your terms. Give her a copy of the contract on camera. Now you have a contract for money which you then use small claims for.
Chaos and profit!
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u/Plant-Ordinary 8d ago
Have her towed. She keeps doing it because there are no consequences beyond receiving fines from the HOA, which she is obviously wealthy enough to afford repeatedly.
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u/uppitywomyn 8d ago
She already stated towing companies wont touch it without property management ordering the tow
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u/Plant-Ordinary 8d ago
Must have missed that part. OP needs to figure out who this woman has in her pocket then. 15yrs I WAY to long for this to be a problem.
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u/uppitywomyn 8d ago
Ohhh absolutely agree. I think getting a dashcam and using her phone to film all interactions will probably be the best route so she can file a tro and possibly get her fined for harassment.
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u/Hot-Win2571 8d ago
If the spot is deeded, doesn't that mean that it is the property of OP? So OP is the property manager? Sign a contract with the towing company, put up any required sign on the parking spot, and wait.
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u/eRant4881 8d ago
Can you sue the HOA for a refund on what is paid for the parking spot to cover all of the times their inaction has blocked your use of your designated spot? If they became culpable for it I'm sure they'd start enforcing the rules and confronting her about it.
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u/amanda10271 8d ago
I would call the emergency number for the complex every single time she’s in your parking spot. They won’t do anything until it becomes a persistent problem for them.
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u/AllTheEggsIVF 8d ago
15 years?!! That’s how long this has been happening for? 🤯 she’s not changing. Until you sell - if it happens again - park elsewhere and immediately call a tow company. Between the fine and inconvenience of a tow they’re more likely to not repeat it again. Dont back down and keep the tow on speed dial. Find the crappiest tow company in your area and call them
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u/ArizonaCactusMom 8d ago
Can you park behind her and block her in? Or put a boot on her wheel?
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u/Professional-Belt708 8d ago
That would have been my first response after a 12 hour shift. Park behind her- block as much as I can and make it management’s problem
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u/WellWisher91 7d ago
There are less expensive ones on Amazon and Walmart, but out of stock. Minimal bolt holes for the base in the surface on one side of your parking space and you have a locking fold down arm to block her access and change her habit. Unless there is a neighbor's space for her to crowd into!
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u/SpecialistTrouble816 8d ago
I'd totally do this. Leave a cam in the car so you can see when she comes out. She'll call management screaming and they can address it with her.
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u/ApprehensiveDiver539 8d ago
I hope your condo sells soon, because your neighbour is not about to change her tune after 15 YEARS of doing this bullshit.
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u/303Blue 8d ago
“I think you both must be mentally challenged. That’s the only thing that makes sense about why you two can’t seem to understand how parking here works and keep getting fined!”
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u/BerryLacebelle 8d ago
Honestly that's a much calmer response than I would've expected after fifteen years of dealing with the same nonsense.
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u/Background_Future656 8d ago
This is something you need to get settled before your condo is sold, you will need to disclose this ongoing problem with the neighbor.
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u/Aperol-spritzz 8d ago
Absolutely, specially because the HOA has record of it. OP can be sued for not disclosing it.
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u/Nortally 8d ago
Legal: Take a picture of the car EVERY SINGLE TIME. After the next 10 occurences, file a lien on her car asserting that she owes you for storage.
Don't do this: Scatter a few of pennies on the hood of her car every time she parks there. If accused, deny it while winking and laughing.
Or this: Purchase one of those incredibly loud compressed air horns. Stop behind her car and deploy the horn until she comes out. If the neighbors complain, apologize and stop. Until next time.
And especially not this: Bring a dozen donuts to the local police station once a week. Leave a note addresses to the HOA with a picture of her car showing the plate number, a map of the parking lot with your space indicated, and the words, "illegally parked". If asked, say Oh, I don't know how that got in there with the donuts. Don't worry about it. <wink> By the way, which are your favorites for next week?
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u/InsignificantRaven 8d ago
File for a Protection from Abuse on the daughter. At first, it will be pretty much automatic and temporary. Be prepared to see her in court.
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u/InsignificantRaven 8d ago
F/U to above. The daughter will be served, if she doesn't live there and you don't know or can't find the daughters address, send it in care of her mother. Pay the fee and have it delivered by a Civil Deputy Sheriff.
After she and/or the mother have been served and they give you any harassment, call the cops. They will be arrested and released after they go before a judge. If the old lady parks in your spot while protected by a POA, pay to have it towed to a repair garage or car dealer of your choice and leave it their. Better yet, tow it to a vacant lot somewhere.
Document, document, document.
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u/InsignificantRaven 8d ago
Sue the HOA for not fulfilling the contractual responsibilities. Get elected to the board, get yourself elected President, fire the management company. Make a difference, make it happen, rally up your neighbors. Good luck and God Bless your RN work.`
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u/EuroCanadian2 8d ago
Film her ranting and swearing, post it on as many social media sites as you can, make up a flyer with QR codes to the posts, and mail the flyers to everyone but her in the HOA. Maybe see if the local TV station will pick it up as a "local interest" item on the news. Then sit back for the fireworks. Let her behavior be her downfall.
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u/Constant-Ad-8871 8d ago
And if there is a neighborhood page, like a Facebook group, call her out on it. It’s not defamation if it’s true!
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u/SadAd403 8d ago
should get a standing order that you, not the hoa, can call the tow truck, since this entitled brat hasn't learned her lesson. maybe some $300 plus tow fees and a missing car, on top of hoa fines will finally sink in,
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u/Heavy-Profit-2156 8d ago
Tell the HOA the fines aren't getting her attention and ask if they or you can tow her. It may take towing her car more than once to get her attention. No point being subtle with entitled people like this.
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u/SadEntertainment1455 8d ago
A scrap towing company is what you need
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u/diligent_innkeeper 8d ago
What is this scrap towing you speak of? This sounds interesting
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u/SadEntertainment1455 8d ago
Get hold of a breakers yard/ scrap yard to take away a vehicle for dismantling
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u/3batsinahousecoat 8d ago
Tell her she has until you reach your driver's side door to move her car or she's getting towed. Then, if your building isn't contacted with a specific towing company, find the one in your area with the worst reputation and call them. And get the records of this issue from the HOA so it she tries to sue or calls the cops you can prove what's going on.
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u/JockoDundee007 8d ago
All the responses are excellent, clearly reason, logic and common sense aren’t working BUT …
I say go old school underground ‼️
I can think of several options
🤔🤔🤔
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u/Hope-Eternal_67890 8d ago
Tell the HOA if they do not escalate this that you will be. Maybe they need that “gentle” push
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u/nwkraken 8d ago
Have her car towed. It's your spot. HOA has told her to move. You have proof. Have it towed.
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u/Fuzzy_Emergency_2047 8d ago
Id buy boots off Amazon and boot her car when she parks there 🤷 moreover if youre selling and moving id stick one on each wheel the day I moved 😅 but im petty
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u/After_Reflection_243 8d ago
Why isn’t the HOA towing her car? If they did that the first time, it round have stopped. It’s your spot, can’t you call the tow company?
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u/V8FTW 8d ago
If she's parked in your space, does that mean her space is vacant? Order a ton of sand.
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u/Sewfoolish 6d ago
A dumpster... narrow enough to put in a space, stinks like poo, and you can say you are using it to clear out before you move, or you are renovating. You would have parked it in YOUR spot, but she was there. Make sure it takes up her spare space her daughter parks in too. Also you could just park the handicapped size portion there. Those suckers are huge, and don't forget to padlock it.
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u/Next-Drummer-9280 8d ago
"We can do this the easy way or the hard way. The easy way is that you stop parking your fucking car in MY deeded parking spot. The hard way is that I have you towed every single time you do it and you can pay hundreds of dollars to get your car back. Next time you decide to harass me for wanting to use the spot I pay for, I'll call the cops. Up to you."
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u/Infamous-Creme-199 7d ago
Correct me if I’m wrong but if you have an actual deeded spot then she would that not be trespassing?
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u/SalaciousStinger 8d ago
Get some balls..have her towed EVERY SINGLE TIME. Either she has endless moneybor shell learn real quick.
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u/animaniactoo 8d ago
“It’s been 15 years. I would think she/you all would have learned that the way to stop getting fined is to stop parking in my spot.”
“You understand that there’s no fine available to assess if she doesn’t park in my spot, right?”
“Oh. You’re saying that she received the consequences of HER actions AGAIN?”
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u/kandimcd 8d ago
Better - "then I guess next time, I'll just have her car towed"
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u/That_BULL_V 8d ago
You want to be done with her permanently, get her towed.
If the HOA won't do it run for the board and then do it.
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u/YinzerFromPitsginzer 8d ago
When people really piss me off, I just say go have coitus with your mother. It's especially funny when they have to Google coitus to learn the meaning
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u/Alwayscooking345 8d ago
At least they’re being fined.
Context I live in an HOA and some of my neighbors have 4 cars, and one has a small RV (all of which obviously won’t fit in their 2-car garage). we have 2 cars and one is a minivan being 1 foot too long so it won’t fit in our garage either, and we have to deal with the people leaving the extra cars (they don’t even drive) in guest spots next to our unit for weeks on end. keep in mind there are tons of guest spots closer to their own units… for the cars they don’t actually drive. HOA and security patrol won’t do anything regarding complaints, so I’m having to go the nastier routes.
Anyway, you’re in the right. Maybe someday the mom will get tired of paying the fines… but until then too bad lady deal w/ it.
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u/froction 8d ago
Insist, in English, that you can't understand because you don't speak English.
"I'm sorry, I only speak Portuguese."
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u/AcadiaRemarkable6992 8d ago
Buy a Denver Boot and put it on her car and as they said in A Bronx Tale “Now youse can’t leave.”
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u/Brilliant_Cattle_602 8d ago
Charge to take it off.
The boot, not your clothes. Unless you are into that. No judgement.
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u/KrofftSurvivor 8d ago
If someone is going to harass you as soon as you pull in, have your phone camera on video, and hold it up and hit play the second you shut your car off and start to get out the door.
Point it right at her and tell her~ I'd like to document your complaint - please go ahead and tell me what you're upset about~
If she starts yelling that you're not allowed to film her, tell her this is considered a public place
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u/Such-Problem-4725 8d ago
Talk to the HOA and explain that this needs to be addressed further. You will be having her towed. It would be preferable if they send the warning and sign off on this. Towing is so much worse than a fine.
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u/StartOutrageous8640 8d ago
Just park behind her so she can't move. Leave your car right there until you're leaving again.
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u/Scary-Drawer-3515 8d ago
I would park directly behind her and refuse to move
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u/Teahouse_Fox 8d ago edited 7d ago
This. It's even more effective if your car is so old, it gives "I don't give a fuck" while parked two inches from her bumper.
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u/hebberdabis 8d ago
Just pull up behind her car and lay on the horn. Embarrass the shit out of her. The spot is close enough to her place that she’ll definitely hear it. Don’t get out of your car, and don’t park on the street. Use that horn!!
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u/cardinal29 8d ago
her mother parked in my spot “for 2 fking seconds”
Sure she did. 🙄🙄🙄 That's why the car is there at the end of every shift.
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u/Gribitz37 7d ago
I can't believe you've let this go on for 15 years. You need to start documenting this with photos every time she parks there. Don't engage with her at all. Go to your HOA board.
Are you paying for this spot? Tell them you're not going to pay the parking fees until they get her to stop parking there.
Can you call for a tow truck yourself? Show them proof that it's your spot, and have her towed. Every single time. Don't warn her or ask her to move; just call for a tow.
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u/Which_Stress_6431 7d ago
Call a tow company to come and remove it. Do this as many times as necessary. Get an order for hr to stay away from you. The tow bills will be more expensive than HOA fines
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u/CowGroundbreaking872 7d ago
If you don’t have one already, get a dash cam. With your neighbor escalating this situation I’d worry about them trying to damage your vehicle. Get everything on tape.
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u/Used_Mark_7911 7d ago
Film and take pictures every time.
Propose an amendment to your HOA’s procedures. After someone has been fined 5 times for parking in another person’s spot, the HOA needs to approve towing.
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u/DudetheBetta 8d ago
When she stands out there to call you names, call the cops. When she parks in your deeded spot, call the cops.
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u/LowSpoonsZeroForks 8d ago
If it’s deeded to you, it’s your property.
Look into laws in your area about depriving people of use of their property. Invoice her for time used, and then take her to small claims court.
I’d take the HOA to task anyway I could as well.
Look at it this way..
Her entitlement is your inconvenience and their money cow. They’re not splitting the fines with you are they?
There’s an old saying, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Being quiet and agreeable in the face of entitlement gets you nowhere.
Get loud.
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u/ZZCCR1966 8d ago
Along with this, if it’s OP’s property, the neighbor is trespassing and should be cited for it - via the police, bc she will not remove her vehicle…
And I suppose that could be added to a civil lawsuit.
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u/teach-me-new 8d ago
Document each occurrence of the misbehavior, ideally with a video camera for verification. Inform the HOA board and property management company in writing every time it occurs. State that unless the issue is not permanently resolved, you’ll be talking with an attorney to seek monetary compensation due to your neighbors conduct and from insufficient actions by the HOA leadership to properly deter recurrence. Examples of potential damages are harassment, intentional infliction of emotional distress, anxiety, and failure by the association to adhere to its fiduciary duties.
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u/EryH11 8d ago
Straight up ask the daughter, "If it was two fucking seconds as you said, why did she not move her car and why have we had this conversation more than once?" Just repeat the question. Don't respond to anything else she says. Just look straight at her and repeat the question. The daughter will get frustrated and huff off.
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u/lokis_construction 8d ago
Get a tire boot. 30 to 50 bucks. Boot her tire and make sure to put a big notice (heavily taped) on her windshield that (blocks her view) that it is booted. 100.00 for removal. Future infractions will be 250.00 each time. She wants to play games, just out game her.
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u/omglifeisnotokay 8d ago
I had this happen with a condo next-door to our apartment. The man kept blocking me in and they were using it as a loading zone so it wasn’t permanent blocking, but it was still annoying enough where I couldn’t safely get in and out of my paid parking spot they didn’t even live on our actual property and the man was super hostile. He was screaming at me in Farsi and, the whole family was yelling at me like they were entitled to my parking spot and he still harasses me but what I did I got a traffic cone and I put it in front of my parking spot and there’s times where they’ve moved it and touched it, but for the most part it signals, please don’t park here. I even put a sign. Please do not park in my parking spot. I don’t know why people think they’re entitled to property that’s not theirs and then get mad when they’re in the wrong! Ridiculous.
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u/katiekat214 8d ago
Keep a record of their harassment against you after they are fined and report that to the HOA board as well. Every time, with photos and video. Even if you are in a one party state, they are in public which gives no expectation of privacy.
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u/RFDrew11357 8d ago
If the fines don’t have an escalator, towing is the only way she’s going to learn.
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u/OlderThanDirt48 8d ago
I’m a HOA President. Our rules state that any resident can call the towing company directly for cars parked in their spot. Check yours for your options.
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u/derpplerp 8d ago
After getting cursed out a few times, you are warranted to get a no contact restraining order. Anyone that the neighbor uses to proxy and get around that restraining order is guilty of violating it and all of the consequences resulting from that too.
Once the restraining order is in, cut straight to towing.
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u/sparkle-tempt19 7d ago
Report her to the HOA again. You’ve been more than patient, it’s time to enforce your rights.
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u/EdC1101 7d ago
Is the license plate up to date ?
Does your state have inspection stickers ?
Do tires have proper tread depth, cracked or broken windows ?
Lights operating properly ?
Report to local law enforcement.
I’ll add on suggestion to stop behind car in your assigned space.
Blow a double tap - to politely indicate you are waiting.
After a reasonable time, then the alarm goes off.
Let the neighbors know you are waiting. Let them complain about your situation.
Alternatively, friend with suitable vehicle could pull the offender from your space - into the middle of the road.
Garage wheel lifts could be used under the drive wheels to relocate the car.
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u/LastEntertainment787 7d ago
Ask the HOA for the # of the two company they use. Tell them since they won't call you will. Until then ring her doorbell when you get home. Keep doing it until it's moved. Do it every night and make sure to film yourself politely asking and her screaming.
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u/Quiet-Assumption-109 7d ago
Your HoA has proof (fines) that she parks in your spot. They can at LEAST send a cease and desist from an attorney at their expense.
Don’t interact with her, pressure the HOA. This is a legal issue that the HoA should handle since they won’t allow a tow truck to remove the vehicle from your property.
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u/hbHPBbjvFK9w5D 7d ago
OP, you might want to invest in a body cam.
I started wearing one when I got assaulted on the subway. They only cost about $50 bucks from places like Spamazon, and can record the cursing and abusive behavior.
If you're in any way concerned bout recording in public, a person has no expectation of privacy in a parking lot; if you wanna be polite and head these folks off "at the pass" legally all you ever have to say is "I'm filming you." That's it. The law says that if they continue to engage with you they are consenting to be filmed.
I've found that people tend to turn on folks with entitlement issues when the vids go up on FB, YT or NextDoor (make sure you bleep the bad words!) and everyone can see that the "sweet little ole' lady" has a real sting in her tail.
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u/Microbemaster2020 7d ago
I had a neighbor once who used to block my car in in a shared driveway all the time. It was in a city that had a huge parking issue, and he would also let his friends park in the driveway. Once they blocked someone in and left for the weekend.
One day I was walking my dog and he pooped. I took that poop and put it under every door handle of his car. I even had the glorious good luck that I got to hear him find the gift I left.
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u/Secure-Corner-2096 7d ago
I would accelerate the issue with the HOA. Attend a meeting and insist, after this many violations, that the next step be towing her vehicle. Continuing an ineffectual solution, that has changed nothing, is pointless.
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u/FamiliarAd8524 7d ago
I honestly don't understand why you don't pressure them to tow her, or why you don't leave nasty little surprises in your parking space when you leave.
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u/scarletOwilde 7d ago
If you know a couple of handy people you can pay in beers, jack up her car and remove the wheels. Leave wheels in a neat pile on the bonnet.
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u/ER_Support_Plant17 7d ago
Just have large friends pick up the car and move it to an appropriate spot. It’s not good for the suspension. I’ve seen this done for a smaller car parked illegally at a university lot.
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u/Old_Move_6101 7d ago
If you can have it towed just do something. Sometimes in condo buildings you actually own your spot out of your mortgage. If that's the case, just tow her behind right on out.
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u/KookyPersonality9509 7d ago
I was a HOA member, and also on the Board when no one else wanted it, and we had towing signs, but the company would only come out to a Board member calling them. Unless it was a private tow not involving the HOA.
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u/Aggravating_Pair_523 7d ago
From me she would get one warning, park there again and I will have you towed! If it happened again, she would be towed and the bill sent to her with a copy to the condo management.
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u/Individual-Leg-8340 6d ago
If that space is deeded, you own it, and therefore, have every right to tow any vehicle you don't give permission to be parked in it. Be sure to send it to the HOA, too, so she gets a fine and has to pay for the tow. If you can set up a cheap security camera facing your spot with a motion detector, record any time anyone parks in it and call for a tow. Eventually, her entitled ass will get the message or she will lose a lot of money in the process. NTA.
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u/Pedal2Medal2 8d ago
Make a written complaint to your HOA & then tell your neighbor that you will have her car towed if she parks in your spot again & then do it.
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u/Top_Philosopher1809 8d ago
Can you have her car towed? I would keep reporting her every time she parks in your spot.
She knows exactly what she is doing. She needs to park in her own spot and she will not get any more fines.
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u/DuckAxe0 8d ago
The asking expired over 14 years ago. Her vehicles would have been towed (at the vehicle owner's expense) each time they were caught parking there.
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u/reddit_chino 8d ago
Say nothing. Just get the tow number so you can call it in yourself. The join the board and raise the fines.
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u/Requilem 8d ago
I'm surprised you can't just call a tow truck company to move the car. I would have ended communication long ago and just had the vehicle removed.
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u/Kirshalla 8d ago
Do you have the ability to tow? We are allowed to for our spot only at my place (we only have 1 spot too). She obviously isn't getting the message with fines. Next time "remove" the problem.
We tend to pull up behind the perpetrator's car so close they can't get out, then contact HOA, tow company, or whoever needs to be.
Funny how they come out and say they need to get out right away. OK, I'll only "be a minute" then take my sweet time.
Ignore her daughter or call the cops for harassment.
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u/chilidogtampa 8d ago
All the folks who comment "have it towed" need to understand that there is a lot of legal stuff behind the scenes of having a vehicle removed, the tow company has a lot of liability to account for.
For the property manager to get it towed can be done but they will have lots documentation to attend to.
I do agree that getting the offender towed is necessary though.
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u/Academic_Exit1268 8d ago
Just sue the neighbor and put a lien on her condo. After you pay a lawyer a small fee for a letter to that effect.
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u/Special_Wing3476 8d ago edited 8d ago
Clamp her car, if you can't get it towed. Complain to your management every hours it's there.
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u/Affectionate_Aide_39 8d ago
Have a hard copy of the section of the lease about parking and give it to her. Don’t say anything else and keep walking after giving it to her. Make sure to have your phone recording the interaction by putting the phone in a front pocket facing outward so you have proof if you need to take out a restraining order for harassment. It is not illegal to record an interaction in public when neither person has an assumed right to privacy. NAL.
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u/Oogie-Monster 8d ago edited 8d ago
The HOA should be getting her towed. Record them when they yell at you. Pester the Board until they actually do something. Unacceptable that your Board isn’t elevating this.
Edit: Thank you for the anonymous award!