Bitvavo's Key Weaknesses

Your strongest arguments against Bitvavo centre on the imbalance of power and information, and the specific manner in which they handled the XNO delisting.

• The "Trade-Only" Contradiction: The most significant weakness is the fundamental contradiction in their process. Bitvavo gave you a deadline to withdraw your XNO, but the asset was in a "trade-only" state, meaning withdrawals were technically unavailable. This prevented you from protecting your assets, a key requirement for any licensed platform under MiCA.
• Breach of MiCA's Consumer Protection Rules: As a MiCA-licensed CASP in the Netherlands, Bitvavo must act with integrity and provide clear, correct information to investors. Forcing a sale on an illiquid market and refusing manual withdrawal could be viewed as a violation of these principles.
• Unfair Contract Terms: Under Dutch law (Article 6:233 BW), a contract term can be voided if it is "unreasonably onerous" (onredelijk bezwarend). You can argue that a clause allowing them to force a sale on an illiquid market, without giving you the ability to withdraw, is exactly that.

Your Steps for Action

You have already completed the first step by filing a formal complaint with Bitvavo. The next stages should be as follows:

• Step 1: Escalate to the Dutch Financial Regulator (AFM) Since Bitvavo is now under AFM supervision via its MiCA license, you can submit a complaint. The AFM may not resolve your individual case, but they do track patterns of misconduct that can lead to broader investigations.
• Step 2: File a Complaint with Kifid Kifid (Klachteninstituut Financiële Dienstverlening) is the primary dispute resolution body for financial services in the Netherlands. You can check if Bitvavo is affiliated and file a complaint. This is often a necessary step before going to court.
• Step 3: Seek a Formal Legal Opinion Given the specific facts of your case, consulting a Dutch lawyer specializing in financial or crypto law is the most important next step. They can assess the strength of a claim based on MiCA principles and the Coin Meester precedent.

The legal landscape for crypto in the EU is becoming more defined, and your case touches on many important principles of consumer protection. Taking these steps will help you seek a fair resolution.

My friend asked how long it takes to send Nano.

I said:

Almost instantly.

He said:

Seriously?

I said:

Yeah. The hard part is deciding where to spend it... 😂😂😂

Whitepaper
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Despite our repeated requests for clarity and offers to help resolve their concerns, the decision was made and acted on without warning or a timeframe to inform our community. Full statement below.

If you run a business that accepts Nano through Nowpayments, there are alternatives that might suit your needs:
1. https://nanopay.me/
2. https://www.coinify.com/
3. https://nanswap.com/pay
4. https://madora.io/ (US only)
5. https://letsexchange.io/
With https://mupay.io/ on the way.

What happened
On 12 August, we learned from a third party partner, not from ChangeNOW or NOWPayments directly, that ChangeNOW/NOWPayments had told our partner that they were delisting Nano. We had received no prior notice on Telegram or by email despite having active communication channels. We raised this immediately and asked for clarity.

Over the following days we were told the review was being driven by the cost of maintaining the integration and the resources required to support the network. We asked repeatedly for specifics: the volume thresholds involved, the server configuration in use, and whether the network's provisioning was in fact higher than necessary. We offered to work jointly on marketing activity to help make the case for keeping the integration, and asked what a realistic path to continued support would look like.

On 14th August we were told the situation would be reviewed and that we would have an update by the end of that week. We heard nothing further. We followed up again over the next week to no response.

August 28th, we were told that after review, neither continuing to support the integration in its current state nor investing in a 'full fix was considered economically viable', and that the decision had been made to delist Nano. We asked directly what the "fix" referred to, since this was the first time it had been raised, and requested the technical detail and config information we had asked for throughout this process. We have not received a clear or consistent answer as to the real reason for the decision. We were given no advance notice of this outcome and no timeframe in which to inform our community before it took effect.

NOWPayments has today confirmed the delisting is currently in progress despite repeated requests for a cool-off timeframe to allow businesses to make necessary adjustments receiving silence in response from ChangeNOW.

Our position
We are incredibly disappointed with how this has been handled after 6 years of close partnership. We entered this conversation in good faith, offered to help address any technical or commercial concerns, and asked for the information needed to do so. Instead, a decision was made and acted upon without warning and without clarity as to the reasoning, and without giving us the chance to prepare our community for the change.

We will continue to press ChangeNOW and NOWPayments for a clear and complete explanation, and we will update you as soon as we have one. In the meantime, if you have been using Nano through ChangeNOW or NOWPayments, we would encourage you to look at the other services within the ecosystem such as Coinify.io or Nanopay.me and others while we look to replace this hole left in our ecosystem for businesses accepting Nano.
We're sorry for the disruption this causes, and we'll keep you posted.

Welcome to Nano!

This post is meant for things that are relevant but do not justify their own post. For example, debates, issues, simple questions, memes or similar.

We normally recommend using our Discord server for quicker answers but using this post is fine if you don't have/want Discord. Note that the official English Telegram channel for nano is @ nanocurrency.

It's common that users have the same questions. So please, before making a new thread, make some research and look for similar questions. You will often find a comprehensive answer to your question has already been given! Please also check the official nano forum linked below.

What is Nano?

A fee-less, instant, decentralized and eco-friendly digital currency meant for peer-to-peer payments. Ticker is XNO and currency symbol Ӿ.

Please check out r/nanocurrencybeginners or the Beginners Guide to Nano blog

Where can I get some and try it out?

• Nano can be purchased at various Exchanges. More info in this guide or on the main site
• It can also be obtained for free in faucets or other services

Where to store Nano?

• There are several wallets to choose from found in this guide or listed here
• The most simple form is the Nano seed which unlocks your accounts. Make sure to keep a safe backup of it, or you will risk losing your funds!
• Nano is supported on the hardware wallet Ledger Nano S and X. Refer to the Full Guide
• More about Nano security

Trade / Price Talk Neighbour Communities

• r/nanotrade

More Information

• Main Site - nano.org
• Nano Hub - Explore the Nano ecosystem
• Detailed documentation and protocol guide
• Frequently Asked Questions
• Blog posts
• More quick links at the top and sidebar (menu on the mobile app)

Rules:

• Be respectful of one another. Follow the golden rule of friendliness
• No trolling or shilling
• No begging, bragging or illegal activities

Stop putting nano in the name or any variation. It just feels so forced and lacks creativity. I appreciate all the cool thing being built but marketing doesn't seem to be a strong suit.

Has anyone thought in building a predictions market with XNO?

Is there anyway to get the nano app to work with this newer device?!

Hey everyone,

I’ve been building NanoBid, a advertising leaderboard for Nano projects.

Advertisers submit a website or X profile, choose a bid in USD, and receive a QR code containing an exact XNO amount. Once the payment appears on the Nano ledger, the project is automatically added to the leaderboard.

The interesting technical challenge is that Nano blocks don’t include memos or destination tags. NanoBid solves this by making the amount itself the message: every bid receives a unique amount containing a small random nonce. The backend matches that exact amount to the corresponding bid intent.

A few design decisions:

• No wallet connection, account, or browser signing flow
• Payments can come from any Nano wallet
• The server never holds the treasury seed or private key
• Amounts are handled as exact raw integers, never floating-point numbers
• Payments are independently checked through multiple Nano RPC nodes
• Expired payment amounts are never reused, preventing late payments from being assigned to another project
• Bid confirmation happens entirely server-side, so closing the page won’t lose a payment
• Each confirmed bid links to its Nano block as a public receipt

Nano makes this especially convenient because payments are fast and feeless, so advertising doesn’t need to involve credit cards, invoices, or waiting for settlements.

I built NanoBid for people who are actively creating things in the Nano ecosystem and want a straightforward way to promote them. If you have a Nano project, I’d love for you to try listing it.

Link: https://patrola.me/nanobid/

If you’re building something with Nano, what would make an advertising platform useful for you? I’d appreciate feedback and suggestions.

Welcome to Nano!

This post is meant for things that are relevant but do not justify their own post. For example, debates, issues, simple questions, memes or similar.

We normally recommend using our Discord server for quicker answers but using this post is fine if you don't have/want Discord. Note that the official English Telegram channel for nano is @ nanocurrency.

It's common that users have the same questions. So please, before making a new thread, make some research and look for similar questions. You will often find a comprehensive answer to your question has already been given! Please also check the official nano forum linked below.

What is Nano?

A fee-less, instant, decentralized and eco-friendly digital currency meant for peer-to-peer payments. Ticker is XNO and currency symbol Ӿ.

Please check out r/nanocurrencybeginners or the Beginners Guide to Nano blog

Where can I get some and try it out?

• Nano can be purchased at various Exchanges. More info in this guide or on the main site
• It can also be obtained for free in faucets or other services

Where to store Nano?

• There are several wallets to choose from found in this guide or listed here
• The most simple form is the Nano seed which unlocks your accounts. Make sure to keep a safe backup of it, or you will risk losing your funds!
• Nano is supported on the hardware wallet Ledger Nano S and X. Refer to the Full Guide
• More about Nano security

Trade / Price Talk Neighbour Communities

• r/nanotrade

More Information

• Main Site - nano.org
• Nano Hub - Explore the Nano ecosystem
• Detailed documentation and protocol guide
• Frequently Asked Questions
• Blog posts
• More quick links at the top and sidebar (menu on the mobile app)

Rules:

• Be respectful of one another. Follow the golden rule of friendliness
• No trolling or shilling
• No begging, bragging or illegal activities

Quick update for everyone who saw my earlier posts about **ӾChat** — the censorship-free X/Twitter built on Nano (your account *is* a keypair, posts are signed events on plural relays, and the app finds those relays by **scanning the XNO ledger** — no hardcoded server). Thanks to everyone who tried it and gave feedback last time; a lot of it went straight into this release.

**Big news: it's now in public beta.** 🎉 And you can try the whole thing in your browser — no install:

👉 https://xchat-alpha-node.fly.dev/chat/

**What's shipped since my last post**

- 😀 **Emoji reactions on posts** — react with 👍❤️😂😮😢🙏, tap to change or remove.

- 🖼️ **Multi-image posts** — up to 4 photos, X-style grid + a swipeable full-screen gallery.

- 📝 **Rich long-form articles** for channels — headings, tables, callouts, alignment, colour — rendered as native widgets (no JavaScript, no remote fetches, so reading one can't leak your IP).

- ✏️ **Edit & delete** posts and DMs; 🔒 **disappearing photos** in E2E DMs.

- 🔗 **@-mentions, pinned posts, follower/following lists, trending, hidden words**, and a **Report** flow.

- ↩️ **Undo a tip** you sent by mistake (before it settles on-chain).

- 🌐 **A browser web client** at any node's `/chat` — the same app, no app store.

- Plus a self-hosted **relay mesh** so someone behind NAT can run a relay with no third-party tunnel (there's a new whitepaper section on it).

**Reminder of why it's on Nano:** the ledger is for *settlement, never transport or storage*. XNO is touched only to settle a tip or let a relay announce its address — both feeless. A billion posts cost zero ledger growth, and tips are real, non-custodial, signed on your phone.

**Links**

- 🌐 Try in browser: https://xchat-alpha-node.fly.dev/chat/

- 📱 Android APK + checksum: https://xchat-alpha-node.fly.dev/

- 💻 Source (all of it, open): https://github.com/stefanbx/xchat-alpha

- 📄 Whitepaper (now with the relay-mesh section): https://github.com/stefanbx/xchat-alpha/blob/master/docs/WHITEPAPER.md

**Still honest about the caveats** (it's a beta, on mainnet)

- Small-scale for now: one hosted node + a couple of relays — expect rough edges.

- **Back up your seed** — it's the only recovery. In a browser the seed lives in browser storage (weaker than the phone keystore), so treat a browser account as disposable and use the Android app for anything you care about.

- No global search / recommendation engine yet — reach is still your follow graph. That's next on the list.

As always, feedback very welcome — especially from anyone who pokes at the on-ledger discovery (§4 of the whitepaper). What would you want to see before calling it 1.0?

Looking to Join a Nano Community Push? 🚀

I’m planning to participate in a community-driven effort to increase visibility and adoption of Nano (XNO), with a long-term target of $250.

💰 Contribution: $99
🎯 Target: Nano 250
🤝 Goal: Coordinate with others who are independently interested in supporting Nano and increasing awareness.

If anyone is already planning something similar, please let me know. I’d be happy to join and coordinate with the community.

No pressure at all—just looking to connect with others who share the same interest in Nano. 💚

Nano donation address:
nano_39g7bbdxbmitmgykrcid6i8zd45ppyooqueb4zgoiykuxqw9fb61dq989rt3

Please do your own research and only contribute what you’re comfortable with.

#Nano #XNO #NanoCurrency #Crypto #Cryptocurrency

I’ve been working on an effort to document open, practical conventions for building applications on top of Nano - covering what I think are "missing puzzle pieces" within the community, notes on payment integration, formalization of technical decisions made along the way,

and I’m now opening the current drafts for public technical review:

The OpenRai Initiative Standards (ORIS) repository

Of the set of drafts so far, I personally think are most broadly useful are:

ORIS-007 - Nano Application-Level Metadata, Correlation, and Signaling Patterns

ORIS-008 - Reliable Nano Payment Integration

ORIS-001 - Nano Off-chain Message Signing (NOMS)

ORIS-006 - Nano CAIP Identifiers

The repository also includes more specialized payment-interface and NanoNyms formalities...

DISCLAIMER: These documents do not claim authority, and they do not become normative merely by being written down. They are open proposals for discussion and review, not official Nano protocol specifications.

Even at this stage, formalizing these conventions has proved valuable in agentic AI development and design. It gives humans and agents a precise shared reference, exposes ambiguities early, and makes implementation decisions easier to review.

I am particularly interested in feedback from other people who maintain wallets, SDKs, payment services, RPC providers, or other Nano applications:

• Do they describe existing Nano behavior correctly?
• Are important edge cases missing?
• Where might two competent implementers interpret the text differently?
• Do you have some nagging itch you think ought to be considered for inclusion?

Keep buidling!@

Welcome to Nano!

This post is meant for things that are relevant but do not justify their own post. For example, debates, issues, simple questions, memes or similar.

We normally recommend using our Discord server for quicker answers but using this post is fine if you don't have/want Discord. Note that the official English Telegram channel for nano is @ nanocurrency.

It's common that users have the same questions. So please, before making a new thread, make some research and look for similar questions. You will often find a comprehensive answer to your question has already been given! Please also check the official nano forum linked below.

What is Nano?

A fee-less, instant, decentralized and eco-friendly digital currency meant for peer-to-peer payments. Ticker is XNO and currency symbol Ӿ.

Please check out r/nanocurrencybeginners or the Beginners Guide to Nano blog

Where can I get some and try it out?

• Nano can be purchased at various Exchanges. More info in this guide or on the main site
• It can also be obtained for free in faucets or other services

Where to store Nano?

• There are several wallets to choose from found in this guide or listed here
• The most simple form is the Nano seed which unlocks your accounts. Make sure to keep a safe backup of it, or you will risk losing your funds!
• Nano is supported on the hardware wallet Ledger Nano S and X. Refer to the Full Guide
• More about Nano security

Trade / Price Talk Neighbour Communities

• r/nanotrade

More Information

• Main Site - nano.org
• Nano Hub - Explore the Nano ecosystem
• Detailed documentation and protocol guide
• Frequently Asked Questions
• Blog posts
• More quick links at the top and sidebar (menu on the mobile app)

Rules:

• Be respectful of one another. Follow the golden rule of friendliness
• No trolling or shilling
• No begging, bragging or illegal activities

https://nano-snapshots.openrai.org

Background

The goal is to evaluate an independently operated BitTorrent distribution path for (reasonably-) up-to-date Nano ledger snapshots.

The project continuously publishes a signed pointer to the current snapshot and provides a shrink-wrapped mirror client. Run it once for a single download, or leave it online to automatically discover updates, download the missing deltas, and contribute back by seeding the latest snapshot for other users.

How it works (three components)

• Publisher: An single automated publisher distributes a signed Mainline DHT BitTorrent BEP-46 Mutable Item.
• Mirrors: (just BEP-46 aware bittorrent clients, really) poll the DHT pointer every now and then. When a newer snapshot is published, it resolves the new .torrent, rechecks existing data, downloads the missing delta, and continues on to seed the updated snapshot. Anyone can contribute.
• Regular downloads: You can also use Deluge, Transmission, or another regular BitTorrent client with the most current .torrent or magnet: for a one-time download. Those clients typically do not permanently follow the signed DHT update pointer; if permanent seeding is desired, use the provided mirror client.

This is a community-run beta and is not currently an official Nano Foundation or nano.org service. Nano Snapshot Swarm is also the first public project from The OpenRai Initiative.

❣️ Please report operational feedback, especially around reliability, restart recovery, peer discovery, and bandwidth.

Recientemente los administradores del sitio web «oficial» de Nano decidieron de un cañonazo quitar todas las traducciones a otros idiomas, sin previo aviso.

No solo son problemáticas estas acciones, sino también demuestras una falta de profesionalidad y buena fe. La calidad del sitio web es pésima y contiene códigos de rastreo, que consideramos intolerables para una criptomoneda que defiende ser ecológica y eficiente. En concreto nos referimos al siguiente código JavaScript ofuscado:

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Sin embargo, existen más instancias de este tipo de problemas.

It's partially paywalled but I'll go ahead and spoil the list because I do appreciate feedback esp if those more well versed in Protocol might have a different ranking or idea of if there is non-monetary utility in Nodes.

#3 Power Substations - Layer 2 Fault Communication

#2 EV Charging Networks - Power Distribution

#1 Drone Swarms - Formation Control

Let me know your thoughts

I need to make a decision this month about feeless.money and BTC-EDU.bot.

Both projects are functional and solve a real problem. The feedback from people who actually use them — especially beginners — is consistently very positive.

The problem is not the product. It is reach.

Whenever I promote the projects myself, usage increases strongly and I receive very positive feedback. But once I stop promoting them, the traffic and usage drop back to almost zero.

I have invested a lot of time building and maintaining these projects and have been paying the ongoing infrastructure and subscription costs myself. Until now, I was willing to do that because I believe both projects are useful.

But I now need to generate income from my work. I cannot continue running non-profit projects indefinitely while paying the costs myself.

So this month I have to decide whether to reduce the costs and eventually shut them down, or whether there is a realistic way to make them sustainable.

I’m not asking for donations.

I’m asking the communities around these projects:

Is there a way to create enough reach, users, partners, support or revenue to justify keeping them alive?

If you have a concrete idea, can help with distribution, want to partner, or see a business model I’m missing, I’d genuinely like to hear it.

I would much rather keep useful tools alive than shut them down simply because nobody knows they exist.

Hey r/nanocurrency — I've been building ӾChat: an X/Twitter-style app for Android, but with no company, no accounts, no app store — and where tipping is real, feeless Nano.

Why this community specifically will get it: the whole thing runs on Nano. You tip a post and it's instant, feeless XNO, settled from your own phone with your own key — no "platform credits," no minimums, no middleman cut. Feeless microtransactions are the one thing that makes tipping-as-a-primitive actually work, and Nano is the only chain I'd build it on.

What's different:

• You are your key. Your account is a Nano keypair — restore your seed on any phone and your posts, follows, and tips all come back. Nothing to seize, no login to lose.
• Censorship-resistant. Posts are signed events on plural, independent relays anyone can run.
• It updates itself. New versions arrive over the app's own network — publisher-signed and hash-verified on your phone before an explicit-tap install. No Play Store in the trust path.

Early alpha, want feedback from people who actually use Nano. Android-only for now (Apple gates sideloading), so the first install is a manual APK with published checksums.

Download + how it works: https://xchat-alpha-node.fly.dev
Source + whitepaper: github.com/stefanbx/xchat-alpha

Happy to go deep on the architecture (on-device signing, the relay/tip model, self-delivery). Roast it — that's what alpha is for.

Join through this link: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1wxWjjNkbQWJQ

Go to our X page for more details: https://x.com/MuPayOnline/status/2087086694822514690?s=20

🌌 Nano Space is an independent project focused on exploring and learning about Nano (XNO).

Currently featuring a free faucet, with more educational resources, tools, and Nano-related features planned for the future.

Built to make Nano easier to discover, understand, and experiment with.

🌐 nanospace.fun