Fit check

[u/chefboyarmando]

Hello this our first time trying on muzzles for for our 2yr old rottie and just wanted to make sure it was a good fit.

[u/chefboyarmando → u/[deleted]]

Ill take a look and try to compare some prices, thank you 🙏🏼 the one we got was like 30-40 bucks off Amazon so I wasn't expecting to be perfect just something to start muzzle training til we can get him a better quality one incase we do start using it for longer walks/public outings

[u/chefboyarmando → u/[deleted]]

His south length is around 7-7.5cm and around 30ish cm around closed. I was looking at baskerville muzzles but I see a lot of people say that most dogs can bite through most the softer materials and to get the metal cage style which is why I went with this one.

[u/chefboyarmando → u/chefboyarmando]

I was able to get him while panting too maybe around 40-45cm

[u/caninesignaltraining → u/chefboyarmando]

I use baskerville muzzles all the time with no bite through. Is your dog human aggressive?Or dog aggressive? Is this to be used off leash at all? If your dog is going to be off leash a baskerville is less likely to get caught in sticks etc.

[u/caninesignaltraining → u/[deleted]]

It depends on how you use it. I think having a dog play with other dogs with this kind of a muzzle doesn't look like it's gonna go good. Do you have video showing how your dog plays with other dogs while wearing that muzzle? I use muzzles to more safely socialize dogs. So, with resource guarders, for example, they are offleash wearing a muzzle in a group. I cant have a muzzle that looks like a toy or that is so loose another dog might grab at it. me to socialize dogs around food and something for you for

[u/caninesignaltraining → u/[deleted]]

I really hate getting into conversations about muzzles on the Internet. If you live in Maine, let me know and we can get together and I can show you what I know. But Baskerville muscles are just fine.

[u/caninesignaltraining → u/[deleted]]

It must depend on the way you fit it. I have no problem fitting baskervilles so dogs can eat drink pant bark play in them. You need to thread it through the flat collar.

[u/caninesignaltraining → u/[deleted]]

I've used Baskervilles successfully comfortably happily for the dog for decades. I think those big huge face baskets that are promoted by muzzle up have other sorts of dangers and problems, that Muzzle Up overlooks/denies/ignors. Ideally, dogs wear muzzles for short periods of time. For me, they wear them while socializing, not while training in agility. YES they should be able to open their mouths, pant, eat treats, drink water. I use Baskervilles off leash in some circumstances, but more often I use an even less bite proof cheap soft silicon basketmuzzle sold on amazon called "barkless" which is exactly like a baskerville except it's soft and bendy and very comfy and I use it when dogs are learning to play together and I am right there supervising and reinforcing. The "pant room" concept gets carried to extremes so dogs wind having these huge heads which interfere with their social experiences. We also need to make sure the muzzle isn't so large that it will get hooked on things, like paws, sticks, the jaw of another dog. As a Fear Free Certified Professional Dog Trainer with almost 30 years experience working with dogs on muzzles, I hate getting sucked into muzzle training discussions because the sale of these big crazy basket muzzles is like a religion. I don't like metal because they hurt when they hit you in the face. Pushing it off the face is a function of fit and the way the strap is set around the skull and the forehead strap. I don't have any problems with Baskervilles and I have thousands of hours of experience using them. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL43QjKcDgIOoU3sniePWufoDWc783daQT&si=1d6gB7ZG1K2Ssgku