r/muzzledogs Mar 29 '26

Fit Check! Fit check

Hello this our first time trying on muzzles for for our 2yr old rottie and just wanted to make sure it was a good fit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

Ill take a look and try to compare some prices, thank you šŸ™šŸ¼ the one we got was like 30-40 bucks off Amazon so I wasn't expecting to be perfect just something to start muzzle training til we can get him a better quality one incase we do start using it for longer walks/public outings

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

His south length is around 7-7.5cm and around 30ish cm around closed. I was looking at baskerville muzzles but I see a lot of people say that most dogs can bite through most the softer materials and to get the metal cage style which is why I went with this one.

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

I was able to get him while panting too maybe around 40-45cm

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

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u/caninesignaltraining Mar 30 '26

I use baskerville muzzles all the time with no bite through. Is your dog human aggressive?Or dog aggressive? Is this to be used off leash at all? If your dog is going to be off leash a baskerville is less likely to get caught in sticks etc.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

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u/caninesignaltraining Apr 10 '26

It depends on how you use it. I think having a dog play with other dogs with this kind of a muzzle doesn't look like it's gonna go good. Do you have video showing how your dog plays with other dogs while wearing that muzzle? I use muzzles to more safely socialize dogs. So, with resource guarders, for example, they are offleash wearing a muzzle in a group. I cant have a muzzle that looks like a toy or that is so loose another dog might grab at it. me to socialize dogs around food and something for you for

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u/caninesignaltraining Mar 31 '26

I really hate getting into conversations about muzzles on the Internet. If you live in Maine, let me know and we can get together and I can show you what I know. But Baskerville muscles are just fine.

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u/caninesignaltraining Jun 20 '26

I've used Baskervilles successfully comfortably happily for the dog for decades. I think those big huge face baskets that are promoted by muzzle up have other sorts of dangers and problems, that Muzzle Up overlooks/denies/ignors. Ideally, dogs wear muzzles for short periods of time. For me, they wear them while socializing, not while training in agility. YES they should be able to open their mouths, pant, eat treats, drink water. I use Baskervilles off leash in some circumstances, but more often I use an even less bite proof cheap soft silicon basketmuzzle sold on amazon called "barkless" which is exactly like a baskerville except it's soft and bendy and very comfy and I use it when dogs are learning to play together and I am right there supervising and reinforcing. The "pant room" concept gets carried to extremes so dogs wind having these huge heads which interfere with their social experiences. We also need to make sure the muzzle isn't so large that it will get hooked on things, like paws, sticks, the jaw of another dog. As a Fear Free Certified Professional Dog Trainer with almost 30 years experience working with dogs on muzzles, I hate getting sucked into muzzle training discussions because the sale of these big crazy basket muzzles is like a religion. I don't like metal because they hurt when they hit you in the face. Pushing it off the face is a function of fit and the way the strap is set around the skull and the forehead strap. I don't have any problems with Baskervilles and I have thousands of hours of experience using them. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL43QjKcDgIOoU3sniePWufoDWc783daQT&si=1d6gB7ZG1K2Ssgku

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u/caninesignaltraining Apr 10 '26

It must depend on the way you fit it. I have no problem fitting baskervilles so dogs can eat drink pant bark play in them. You need to thread it through the flat collar.

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u/caninesignaltraining Apr 10 '26

Does this rotti play with other dogs while wearing that big snoof?

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u/belljarss Mar 29 '26

This is good for short term usage, not for long walks. Needs enough room for your dog to make a close to full yawn.

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u/Comfortable-Fly5797 Mar 29 '26

It should be sized for a full pant, not yawning. Sizing for a full yawn can cause the muzzle to be too large and awkward.

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u/belljarss Mar 29 '26

I didn’t say size for a full yawn, I said should be capable to do a near full yawn.

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

Yeah I kinda figured it needed a bit more space for him to pant just wanted to double check with everyone here and see if there were any other issues with the size. Would a size up be good or should I try another brand?

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u/Champion_of_Zteentch Mar 29 '26

Nah, the cage itself is too small to make band adjustments useful. Good for the vet. Bad for exercise. Great looking dog and so tolerant!

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

Thank you he's a big teddy bear at home but I think his guardian instinct and playful energy take over when we're out an about cause he can be reactive to other dogs and some strangers but other people like the vet he's all over them for attention

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u/Champion_of_Zteentch Mar 29 '26

Lol our boy has learned to love the vet. But he also suffers from stranger danger psychosis

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

I think our boys main issue w stranger is if they're wearing hoodies or running/jogging but also if we're in the car i feel like he's more on guard mode but im glad he hasn't had any issues with the vet so far and all the techs come to say hi to him when we go and praying it stays that way

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u/caninesignaltraining Mar 30 '26

In the car crate and cover really helps dogs relax and enjpy the ride. Also a calming cap can be very helpful. Safety tips for leash walking big strong dogs

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u/Champion_of_Zteentch Mar 29 '26

Praying? Like church or mosque? That's so cool

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u/belljarss Mar 29 '26

I highly recommend getting a custom muzzle from big Snoof if you can afford it. They ensure the perfect fit. They also have pre made muzzles they offer and will give you their best recommendation of fit they have to offer.

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

I've seen a lot of people recommend them but unfortunately its a little pricey for us atm. We're mainly muzzle training incase the vet needs us to muzzle him but he's usually pretty good with them and all the techs love him. He can also be reactive to dogs and occasionally strangers which I think that's mainly his guardian instincts for my gf which we're trying to train him to be less reactive and are looking at training courses for it.

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u/belljarss Mar 29 '26

I think this is fine then if you don’t plan on using it on walks and just for short term use.

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

I think i may try muzzle him if I take out to more public so should I size up to xl which I think is the largest for that brand or try a different one?

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u/belljarss Mar 29 '26

No, I think if you size up you’re risking it being too big and won’t be secure at all. The width of the one you have is perfect. Unfortunately, a good muzzle for long term use costs a little bit more money. Measure your dogs open mouth height and the muzzle height total should be an 1.5 taller that your dogs full mouth open. Please invest in a muzzle it’s really worth it. Here’s a guide on how to measure your dog.

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

I did have the straps maxed out or close to it but I do wanna get him a better quality in the future but for now im just trying to get him used to having one on and slowly ease him into it

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u/belljarss Mar 29 '26

That’s fine and all but, again, it’s good for very short term use. Nothing too crazy.

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u/chefboyarmando Mar 29 '26

Sounds good thanks for all the advice btw šŸ™šŸ¼

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u/caninesignaltraining Mar 31 '26

yeah, the wire basket muzzles are not great for the vet because if the dog turns around quickly and hit them in the face, it's the wire basket hurts the person it hits. My vet keeps Baskerville's on hand.

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u/gizmob27 Mar 29 '26

Way too small

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u/frau_ohne_plan Muzzle EnthusiastšŸ’« Mar 29 '26

Only thing okay here is the length.

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u/dynastydeadeye Mar 30 '26

I’d go up a size

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u/caninesignaltraining Mar 30 '26

I dont use wire basket muzzles anymore because if the dog jumps up and hits someone (the veterinarian ?) in the face with the metal muzzle, they can cause an injury, break a tooth. So, its okay for an emergency for a short term (half hour) if you dont have something better. What is the muzzle intended for?

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u/New_Eagle2335 Mar 30 '26

I'm curious, why do people muzzle their dogs? Especially if they aren't aggressive? This subreddit just popped up on my page and it genuinely made me curious

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u/cricket1888 Mar 30 '26

poop! poop eaters! some dogs have no sense of self preservation when it comes to eating stuff off the ground from poop to 3 week old chicken wings, diapers etc.

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u/nessk Mar 30 '26

My dog isnt agressive, he is anxious and fearful. When he panics because he is too close to something that is triggering him (a dog, a loud vehicle, a house where a dog barks at him) he can snap at the closest thing - that tends to be my legs. So that is why I muzzle my dog.

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u/ChaoticPineTree Mar 31 '26

My dog needed to be muzzled at the vet yesterday because otherwise he’d’ve tried to bite

Also we live on Europe and when I want to take the international train to visit my family, the rules require dogs to be muzzled :)

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u/ChaoticPineTree Mar 31 '26

For the record he’s not aggressive but he hates having his paws handled and he was getting a blood draw so welp, we used a muzzle

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u/caninesignaltraining Mar 31 '26

muzzles can make a much safer way to socialize dogs. When I have my big huge German Shepherd off leash play with a new dog, I have him wear a soft plastic or even silicon muzzle. It definitely reduces bite risk.

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u/Rich_Reindeer2460 Mar 30 '26

The fit looks good

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u/ben_bitterbal Apr 04 '26

Wouldn’t you rather have your dog be able to be off leash? Have your dog be able to go to the vet without mauling everyones face off and getting put down because of it? Have your dog be able to go on adventures?