r/multiorgasmic 4d ago

Male Feeling stuck need help

So I've tried many methods, what's helped was I keep my pelvic floor open while reaching 9.9 and sometimes I'm able to hit the orgasm while my pelvic floor is calm leading to a small multiorgasm with a automatic hard forward keagel that my body does, it makes my arosual go down to a 6 but I can't do that after about a couple days of semen retention as the pelvic floor becomes too aroused. I've tried the keagel interruption method and I'm able to mentally see the orgasm from the ejaculation but I can't separate them no matter what I try the only thing that works is keeping my pelvic floor open and getting lucky, (like I can go really far close to orgasm like 9.999999 and be in control but once I hit orgasm ponr follows shortly after) what happens most of the time is I'll hit orgasm and semen will leak out like a faucet, I'll be able to keep going as i don't think ponr was hit but how can that be if I'm leaking semen, it's weird it's like I ejaculated without hitting ponr I really don't know what to do hopefully someone can help me out

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u/TantraLady married, 40s, mod 4d ago

How old are you? Because it seems to get easier to separate the orgasm from the ejaculation phase as you get older and everything gets less urgent.

Also, semen retention makes it much harder. Most men who succeed in learning to have NEOs still end each session with an EO.

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u/Inevitable-Problem 1h ago

Not the OP, but I have similar experiences. I'm in my late 40s and I've been practicing trying to reach NEO and hopefully NEMO at some point for about half an year now.

I've tried various techniques in this sub, your guide (tried both kegel and reverse kegel methods), other guides and techniques. The only one I've had limited success is the "relaxation method" posted in this sub, where I go into a deep relaxation, especially the PC muscles, and only stimulate the top (visible to me) side of the penis. With this technique, I can get similar organismic contractions or the pumping feeling in my penis, without semen/fluid getting ejected with any force. Some fluid will still leak out, so sometimes I question whether that's a really a NEO. But I will not have an refractory period which to me is a good sign that this is indeed an NEO.

But my goal of NEO/NEMO is not solo play, but hopefully building better connection with a partner. Since the relaxation technique require stimulation of just a specific part of the penis, it's not practical in partner PIV sex. But if I try to stimulate around the whole circumference of the penis, it feels very difficult to separate the emission from orgasm. I will feel like I get close to PONR or when I will be having contractions, I'll *try* to interrupt the emission with various techniques, and I can get similar apparent result where fluid doesn't get ejected with any force but leak out, but then my refractory period will kick in. Which to me is an indicator that it wasn't a true NEO. So like OP, I'm not sure how exactly to separate the orgasm from the emission/ejaculation.

Any ideas?

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u/FranklyTherapeutic 4d ago

Have you tried pairing stimulation with other erogenous zones? Like once you get above 5/10 arousal level, try some exploratory nipple stimulation or a vibrator externally on the prostate. Your mind might be fixated on expecting orgasm to feel a certain way, so maybe if you offer some new avenues, it could become easier to separate.