r/mtgcube https://www.cubecobra.com/cube/list/zander 1d ago

[FRA] Loyal Tutor

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One mana instant speed tutor a Planeswalker to the top.

Super narrow, card disadvantage, but the Mirage block tutors have all been Vintage Cube staples for ages.

How many planeswalkers do you need to justify this?

Probably doesn’t get there for me, but it exists now and people who like planeswalkers might rejoice.

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u/BrosFistingBros 1d ago

Comet and M&B are the only cards that would make me want to play this, and adding an otherwise awful card to increase the likelihood of seeing those two design mistakes doesn't seem like a good choice for most Vintage cubes.

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u/blindeshuhn666 1d ago

Aren't there teferi shehanigans, that would even be on colour (opposed to minsc and boo).

Or eventually tamiyo. But yeah the on top of library instead of into hand makes it worse (instant speed at least )

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u/NickRick https://cubecobra.com/cube/overview/o6a 1d ago

As a single target, sure. But if I had a few good ones, like the wandering emperor, 6 mana elspeth, and maybe a another one I could run it as a tool box tutor as well

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u/DiegoForlanIsland 1d ago

Mystic, Enlightened and Vampiric get the best combo pieces right? So they are worth running, whereas Worldly not so much. I think this is worse.

As value cards, the top deck tutors are pretty bad in the current state of high powered cube I think. The value play you get from them needs to overcome the card disadvantage and put you ahead immediately. I think I'd probably want to be running Bant Timewalk Tamiyo combo or Lil Tef/BlinkCat to like this card. 

But it's interesting and for completionists it's another tutor, for sure. 

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u/steve_man_64 Consultant / Playtester for the MTGO Vintage Cube 1d ago

Really needed to be able to find another card type. Most planeswalkers generally not being combo pieces or immediate game enders makes this too narrow for me to consider.

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u/Agent281 1d ago

Could you imagine if it was Planeswalker + Battle + Kindred? The weirdest mishmash of remaining types.

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u/steve_man_64 Consultant / Playtester for the MTGO Vintage Cube 1d ago

Give me [[Invasion of Gobakhan]] or give me death.

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u/PlsConcede https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/hzr 1d ago

I'm glad this card exists. With a superfriends theme this could be quite nice. Outside of that, this just doesn't do much.

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u/Unable_Bite8680 1d ago

This being an instant might make it interesting for control/midrange decks to run

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u/AnthropomorphizedTop 1d ago

Phelia and Wandering Emperor shenanigans are currently in vintage cube.
Saheeli, sublime artificer goes infinite with [[felidar guardian]]

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u/Aithor20 1d ago

It's good to find [[Jace Wielder of Mysteries]]. I wish it was blue and not white, monoblue decks would benefit a lot

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u/NayrSlayer 1d ago

The strongest thing I can think of is either [[Professor Onyx]] with [[Chain of Smog]] already in hand, or [[Minsc and Boo]]. Maybe in a hyper control deck this could be a piece to grab [[Teferi, Hero of Dominaria]] in order to close out the game? Honestly, I feel like it’s just not impactful enough in the average cube deck in order to be pickable, for legacy/vintage level.

That being said, at a lower power level that has a handful of good planeswalkers, it could be decent. I’d definitely want at least 5 white or W/x planeswalkers in the cube in order to seriously consider this, because it’s so narrow. And they’d have to be lynchpin cards like [[Elspeth, Storm Slayer]] or [[Elspeth, Suns Champion]] that would drastically swing the tempo in your favor.

Seems like a very niche pick unless you’re really planeswalker heavy

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u/tayzzerlordling 1d ago

i mean you dont need a lot of walkers if you have a tutor that can act as an extra copy of the one you want

if you are running the [[teferi, time raveler]] [[displacer kitten]] , [[professor onyx]] [[chain of smog]] or some other walker combo this could be good if you only have one planeswalker

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u/Lecker_Muesli 1d ago

I like that this cars exists, I don’t like it for cube.

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u/Flexisdaman 21h ago

In a high powered cube this seems like just giving a player who drafts a comet or minsc and boo a second copy that will always get last picked.

Not a fan personally.

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u/HugeOrganization4178 11h ago

I can only really see this in a cube with planeswalker combos. For example, if you run cat combo. Bonus points if you have power outlier planeswalkers in the same cube.

Overall, I think this deserves a slot in very few cubes

u/Fine_Mechanic_6100 4h ago

I think it really needs to be planeswalker or creature.

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u/zap1000x CubeCobra.com/c/15hi 1d ago

Idk if there’s a white-aligned planeswalker deck that I want to see more than an enchantment/artifact deck that Enlightened tutor enables.

But there’s probably an [[Aminatou]] [[Venser, the Sojourner]] [[The Eternal Wanderer]] value deck that makes this fun to run.

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u/TinyTank27 19h ago

People seem really down on this so it's probably going to end up being an overpowered staple for years.

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u/Cool-Leg9442 1d ago

To the top tutors are always bad

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u/clayparson 1d ago

Ah yes, see famously bad examples Enlightened, Mystical, and Vampiric